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[Drasill]

The Witcher is such an amazing game and my favorite RPG of all time. First, you have to remember that this is the virgin game of a small dev team, most of whom's previous experience was with modding and localizing. They were using a pretty crappy game engine (no offense BioWare). I'm assuming the budget for the game wasn't that high, certainly not as high as DAO's. With all of this they still managed to produce a legendary RPG with better moral choices than any other RPG has ever done, and the way your decisions affected things down the road was great as well. The plot was awesome, and yes the combat wasn't the greatest but not many RPG's have particularly good combat. DAO's combat was basically just facerolling the keyboard so I would put TW's above it. The Witcher 2 looks to be fixing anything that might be percieved as a problem with the first game. They're enhancing the combat, better game engine, best visuals in an RPG, deeper story, etc. The only thing I'm not excited about for TW2 is it is going to be shorter than the first.

[Nerevar-as]

The timed dialogues are said to be for when the situation is urgent and there´s little time to decide, so not saying anything probably would make the other party act. Hope there´s time enough to read what you want to answer.

[Tirigon]

Nerevar-as wrote...

The timed dialogues are said to be for when the situation is urgent and there´s little time to decide, so not saying anything probably would make the other party act. Hope there´s time enough to read what you want to answer.

That would actually be good, I think.

I mean, using choosing of your answer for a toilet break is helpful sometimes, but it´s not really the way to go if you want an immersive game that catches you.
It just makes no sense at all that the guy who wants to kill you waits for hours until you decide to choose "DIE!!", does it?

[Tirigon]

RageGT wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

RageGT wrote...


Actually, around 90 hrs each. =)

Sometimes I just keep traveling around and seeing what's the next random encounter will be. Some of them are pretty challenging in early game, like those 30+ traps in a field with darkspawn or the cylon wolves with their overwhelm that my mabari needs many more levels to acquire. Then all the DLC's, then lots of crafting for money which requires many trips between the Tower and Denerim, for example.

So 20 full runs, at 90 hours each, means 1800 hours. Game's been out for eight months...... so an average of something over 7 hours of DA play per day, every day.

I get the feeling you're just a bit outside the typical player profile.

Actually, it is 9 months now. ad yes, I may not fit the "typical" player profile. But 1800 hrs is not that much. 75 days. And considering that I do sleep some 8hrs a day, that would make it 100 days. The game is out for around 270 days. That means that I didn't play it for some 170 days, on which I played The Witcher, Gothic 1, 2, Risen, Warcraft III, GP4, Dead Space, Torchlight, ME1, ME2, Rome TW, Max Payne1, 2 and FIFA 2010. (and some others I don't remember perhaps)

How do you earn your money and do stuff with your wife and whatever else you do?

I mean, I have 180 hours or so of DAO plus 150 in ME2 and a bit moe DotA, but barely any other games since the release of DAO, and I have been accused of playing waaay too much......

[DragonRageGT]

Tirigon wrote...

How do you earn your money and do stuff with your wife and whatever else you do?

I mean, I have 180 hours or so of DAO plus 150 in ME2 and a bit moe DotA, but barely any other games since the release of DAO, and I have been accused of playing waaay too much......

Well, like Charlie Harper, I write music and stuff but instead of chasing all the chicks around, I play video games so my wife doesn't get jealous.  :innocent:

Modifié par RageGT, 08 août 2010 - 05:20 .

[Kalfear]

Drasill wrote...

The Witcher is such an amazing game and my favorite RPG of all time. First, you have to remember that this is the virgin game of a small dev team, most of whom's previous experience was with modding and localizing. They were using a pretty crappy game engine (no offense BioWare). I'm assuming the budget for the game wasn't that high, certainly not as high as DAO's. With all of this they still managed to produce a legendary RPG with better moral choices than any other RPG has ever done, and the way your decisions affected things down the road was great as well. The plot was awesome, and yes the combat wasn't the greatest but not many RPG's have particularly good combat. DAO's combat was basically just facerolling the keyboard so I would put TW's above it. The Witcher 2 looks to be fixing anything that might be percieved as a problem with the first game. They're enhancing the combat, better game engine, best visuals in an RPG, deeper story, etc. The only thing I'm not excited about for TW2 is it is going to be shorter than the first.

Well thats open to discussion really!

What they have said is THE MAIN GAME will be 35 hours long. But that doesnt include all the side quests so game could easily be in the 50 area.

Shorter then first, YES
Longer then anything Biowares offered up since BG, YES

So guess its how you look at the glass on this topic. Personally 50 hours is fantastic new for me. Its when games are 30 hours all told that I get annoyed.

[Kalfear]

RageGT wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

How do you earn your money and do stuff with your wife and whatever else you do?

I mean, I have 180 hours or so of DAO plus 150 in ME2 and a bit moe DotA, but barely any other games since the release of DAO, and I have been accused of playing waaay too much......

Well, like Charlie Harper, I write music and stuff but instead of chasing all the chicks around, I play video games so my wife doesn't get jealous.  :innocent:

LOL so your a lush of a drinker huh Rage :PPP
heheh sorry had to!

[DPB]

Kalfear wrote...

What they have said is THE MAIN GAME will be 35 hours long. But that doesnt include all the side quests so game could easily be in the 50 area.

Shorter then first, YES
Longer then anything Biowares offered up since BG, YES

So guess its how you look at the glass on this topic. Personally 50 hours is fantastic new for me. Its when games are 30 hours all told that I get annoyed.

Just looking through your some of your characters, didn't DAO take you 64 hours? DAO took me about 85 hours, KOTOR 60, ME 40, ME2 50, JE 25 and Awakening 20 (I'm not sure about the rest, since they didn't record the time played). My play-style is pretty inefficient and I have a very poor sense of direction in 3d games, but even so the time to complete DAO seems to vary wildly between people. I've seen some who got through it in less than 30 hours, others upwards of 120.

[Kalfear]

dbankier wrote...

Kalfear wrote...

What they have said is THE MAIN GAME will be 35 hours long. But that doesnt include all the side quests so game could easily be in the 50 area.

Shorter then first, YES
Longer then anything Biowares offered up since BG, YES

So guess its how you look at the glass on this topic. Personally 50 hours is fantastic new for me. Its when games are 30 hours all told that I get annoyed.

Just looking through your some of your characters, didn't DAO take you 64 hours? DAO took me about 85 hours, KOTOR 60, ME 40, ME2 50, JE 25 and Awakening 20 (I'm not sure about the rest, since they didn't record the time played). My play-style is pretty inefficient and I have a very poor sense of direction in 3d games, but even so the time to complete DAO seems to vary wildly between people. I've seen some who got through it in less than 30 hours, others upwards of 120.

Not realy, my first play through misleading as ill play a route, reload and do a 2nd line, reload do a 3rd line, ect!

DA:O however was a satisfying game lenght wise for me. But The witcher is longer. DA:O has more replay value  LOL, most my play throughs not even listed on my online account thingy for DA:O. Plus I also have TSP, RtO, Wardens Keep DLC, nudity patch for romance and misha the hoarder fan mods which make me actually watch the cutscreens and spend even more time screwing around with inventory then normal. Not like im playing DA:O alone.

KotOR: 30-35
JE: 25
ME: 40
ME2: 30
DA:O 35-40 (realistically)

The Witcher, Chapter 4 at 60 hours no reloading like in DA:O.

The mass average for DA:O when game released was 40 hours of people that posted. You had you rare occations of 100+ hours (or so they claimed) and the rare occation of 20 hours (or so they claimed), the average was 40 hours and I think 40-50 hours is a fair size for a $70.00 video game to be honest! No complaints from me about size with those!

Anyways, The Witcher 2 said their game will be shorter which worried some folks but then they said it will be 35 hours main story PLUS side Quests so 50 hours is reasonable assumption!
PLUS
The Witcher 2 will have greater replay value then TW1 had so you will get that 2nd and 3rd play through of TW2, vastly increasing the hours played! Which is awsome!

As I said before, based on all the info I have, my spring buys right now are

1) The Witcher 2
2) Deus Ex 3
3) SW:TOR

all 3 due out first quarter of 2011

As for DA2, based on all the released info, ill pick up on Steam for $20.00 after the fact rather then pay full price for game. I keep hoping to hear some good news that changes my mind and makes me want to buy game at retail start but all the info having the opposite effect I gotta admit!

Modifié par Kalfear, 08 août 2010 - 06:35 .

[d3c0yBoY]

RageGT wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

How do you earn your money and do stuff with your wife and whatever else you do?

I mean, I have 180 hours or so of DAO plus 150 in ME2 and a bit moe DotA, but barely any other games since the release of DAO, and I have been accused of playing waaay too much......

Well, like Charlie Harper, I write music and stuff but instead of chasing all the chicks around, I play video games so my wife doesn't get jealous.  :innocent:

Yes! Simply Yes!

Modifié par d3c0yBoY, 08 août 2010 - 07:37 .

[In Exile]

slimgrin wrote...

-QTE's are a bad move, no question. However, it is said they will be optional.

From what I understand, success on them is optional, and you can fail all the QTEs and beat the game without suffering. From the trailer I saw a while back, it looked like it would change the flow of events versus their outcome.

-I'm still undecided on timed responses and paraphrasing. If the dialog is as well written as the first game, and if paraphrasing is accurate, I'm probably ok with it.

Oh, I'm a fan of both (though I didn't actually think the dialogue was great). But I only meant to point out that TW2 was not going in the direction of anti-DA2.

It really does seem like the two games are narrowing to the same set of features.

-Combat is way different. Looks much better. Heres a link:

 

Thanks. I'm going to check it out soon and comment. But it's still non-party and action oriented, no? So that's not any different in principle than the original.

You're right though. TW2 seems to be heading in a direction that would dismay many on these boards. But given what they did with the Enhanced Edition, a pc exclusive in which nothing was nerfed, CD Projekt has instilled a lot of faith.

But that makes no sense. Whether or not TW2 is a PC exclusively, it has the features people here bemoad as dumbed down and console oriented. TW absolutely could have been played as a console game pretty much as is since all you really needed the mouse for was the timed click attacks, but that can easily be swapped.

I just don't get venerating CD Projekt over Bioware when they're basically designing the same game.

[Bryy_Miller]

In Exile wrote...

I just don't get venerating CD Projekt over Bioware when they're basically designing the same game.

Because horny young men can frak everything.

Oh, that and graphics.

[captain.subtle]

I think that TW is the better game. But that might be my nostalgia. I am a fan of traditional CRPGs with focus on quests and Dialogue. TW stands the victor (for me) by supplying a vast number of both without much hassle of dungeon crawling and specifically having a GREAT RPG and COMBAT system. I can't put my finger on it, but the RPG experience in DA:O felt very restricted, forced and boring somehow, even with the clasees and races! .

IMO of course.

But DA:O is great too. It has a very captivating lore. But I finally am getting bored with it. It's too much of suspense and that can be unhealthy.

Witcher can learn from DA:O by improving lore presentation (codex! wow!)  and more incorporation in the gameplay (not just monster entries, but actual events like Conjunction of the spheres) .

Modifié par captain.subtle, 08 août 2010 - 09:33 .

[Bryy_Miller]

slimgrin wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

In Exile wrote...

I just don't get venerating CD Projekt over Bioware when they're basically designing the same game.

Because horny young men can frak everything.

Oh, that and graphics.

That is such an uninformed and ridiculous statement. I assume you are joking. There is much more to the game than sex and graphics.

Therefore, my mockery is not aimed at you.

[captain.subtle]

Bryy_Miller wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

In Exile wrote...

I just don't get venerating CD Projekt over Bioware when they're basically designing the same game.

Because horny young men can frak everything.

Oh, that and graphics.

That is such an uninformed and ridiculous statement. I assume you are joking. There is much more to the game than sex and graphics.

Therefore, my mockery is not aimed at you.

I guess neither was Hir's toward you?

[Solid N7]

the witcher sucks kalfear .

[HighMoon]

I know it sounds shallow, but I just have a lot more trouble getting engaged into a game playing as a male than as a female.

[Drizzt ORierdan]

Golden-Rose wrote...

I know it sounds shallow, but I just have a lot more trouble getting engaged into a game playing as a male than as a female.

That is sooo strange..., cause if Im not mistaken you dont have a different role play experience if youre a woman in DAO (which would be awesome, btw). The love interests change, but thats pretty much it, right? Its not that youre allowed to sort a quest differently, according to your gender...

[Games4ever]

Golden-Rose wrote...

I know it sounds shallow, but I just have a lot more trouble getting engaged into a game playing as a male than as a female.

In that case a sex change is what you need, then when you have finished the game you just change back to female... unless of course you like your new role as male.

[Kalfear]

slimgrin wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

the witcher sucks kalfear .

At least you're honest about you're preferences. Bold of you, really...

shhhhh if you reply to it, it thinks its opinion is important 

[DragonRageGT]

Solid N7 wrote...

the witcher sucks kalfear .

What's kalfear? I know that The Witcher sucks blood, but only when mating with a she-vampire or a Vampiress Queen.

Oh, Zevran sucks too!