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[Onyx Jaguar]

You know what, never mind

Modifié par Onyx Jaguar, 09 août 2010 - 03:04 .

[In Exile]

slimgrin wrote...
For those interested, go to this link, where it's detailed what will be included in TW2. Most of it sounds good to me. CD Projekt and Bioware are most definitely not making the same game.

 http://tw2.thewitche...p?topic=28407.0

I don't think there are significant differences, but I would wager the things we find significant in games are different. To me, the way they are choosign to tell their story is largely identical, voiced largely fixed (and in TW2's case not physically customizable) protagonist. The gameplay in TW is already non-isometric and action oriented. That they are refining how they did this in the first game is not, as I see it, significant.

So I think it's a matter of where you stand.

[In Exile]

Drizzt ORierdan wrote..

That is sooo strange..., cause if Im not mistaken you dont have a different role play experience if youre a woman in DAO (which would be awesome, btw). The love interests change, but thats pretty much it, right? Its not that youre allowed to sort a quest differently, according to your gender...

I think the issue is more than some people have an issue relating or otherwise feeling like they are in control of characters that are the opposite gender, probably for psychological reasons.

[Riona45]

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

Golden-Rose wrote...

I know it sounds shallow, but I just have a lot more trouble getting engaged into a game playing as a male than as a female.

That is sooo strange..., cause if Im not mistaken you dont have a different role play experience if youre a woman in DAO (which would be awesome, btw). The love interests change, but thats pretty much it, right?

The romance tracks are not insignificant to many players, and actually, one thing I enjoyed about DA:O is how it did often acknowledge my character being female.  Gender wasn't purely aesthetic in that game.

[Drizzt ORierdan]

I surely can understand that. Romance and character suff are two of my favourite parts in DAO. :-)

[thebrah]

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

I surely can understand that. Romance and character suff are two of my favourite parts in DAO. :-)

 Seriously dude, there's plenty of romance in real life. it still boggles my mind why game devs put horribly done romances into their games.

[hangmans tree]

A little offtopic maybe, but please check this thread with gathered info on the Witcher 2. It's similar to the thread from DA2 "what do we know so far". Heres the link:
http://www.thewitche...2076#msg5402076
Now you can test all your speculations and comparisons/interpretations

EDIT:
Sorry, I just noticed slimgrin gave the same link. Touche.

Modifié par hangmans tree, 09 août 2010 - 10:56 .

[SirOccam]

thebrah wrote...

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

I surely can understand that. Romance and character suff are two of my favourite parts in DAO. :-)

 Seriously dude, there's plenty of romance in real life. it still boggles my mind why game devs put horribly done romances into their games.

There's friendship, enemies, violence, betrayal, humor, anger, poverty, wealth, etc. in real life too. Why should romance specifically be excluded? Wouldn't it being a big part of a normal person's life make its absence in the game all the more jarring? Does it make sense for a character to go 10 years without any sort of romance in his or her life?

I don't know why romances have this stigma around them that if you enjoy them you're just desperate or something. They add to a story just as much as (if not more than) hacking and slashing through waves of enemies, right? How come people who just like the killing aren't branded as psychopaths?

[iNZoW]

I don't know, at 1st i really loved The Witcher a lot but, the thing made me stop playing other than the combat which was around chapter 2 was the NPCs that you encounter have the same model exactly! I am fine with the ones who roam .. but the quest givers! Usually i don't care about that in games but, in this game it was just too much.

I might give it a 2nd try and play 1 day.

But, if i gotta choose something form the witcher it would be the night/day rotation.

Modifié par iNZoW, 09 août 2010 - 11:46 .

[wowpwnslol]

Shiroukai wrote...


What I would like to know of you guys though, is which elements of The Witcher you would like to see in Dragon Age

None. The Witcher was an abomination.

[Tirigon]

RageGT wrote...

Solid N7 wrote...

the witcher sucks kalfear .

What's kalfear? I know that The Witcher sucks blood, but only when mating with a she-vampire or a Vampiress Queen.

Oh, Zevran sucks too!

Indeed. I like it, though.

[Tirigon]

SirOccam wrote...

thebrah wrote...

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

I surely can understand that. Romance and character suff are two of my favourite parts in DAO. :-)

 Seriously dude, there's plenty of romance in real life. it still boggles my mind why game devs put horribly done romances into their games.

There's friendship, enemies, violence, betrayal, humor, anger, poverty, wealth, etc. in real life too. Why should romance specifically be excluded? Wouldn't it being a big part of a normal person's life make its absence in the game all the more jarring? Does it make sense for a character to go 10 years without any sort of romance in his or her life?

I don't know why romances have this stigma around them that if you enjoy them you're just desperate or something. They add to a story just as much as (if not more than) hacking and slashing through waves of enemies, right? How come people who just like the killing aren't branded as psychopaths?

Because most of the guys on this forum are Americans, and everyone else is influenced by American values.
And in America, killing is strong and manly. Love is something that should be censored because it´s evil and comes from the devil.
Killers are needed for the Army. People who enjoy love and peace are possible hippies, or maybe even communists, and detrimental to American interests.

[hangmans tree]

Tirigon wrote...


Because most of the guys on this forum are Americans, and everyone else is influenced by American values.
And in America, killing is strong and manly. Love is something that should be censored because it´s evil and comes from the devil.
Killers are needed for the Army. People who enjoy love and peace are possible hippies, or maybe even communists, and detrimental to American interests.

Marilyn Manson comes to mind ...

[gingerbill]

i thought the witcher was a decent RPG but nothing special , the combat was awful , i still enjoyed it despite the combat but i muuch prefer games like DAO were you have a party.

[DragonRageGT]

Honestly, I'd say that anyone who thinks that The Witcher's combat is awful, never got to hit a gold talent 5 level strong silver or steel sword. They are amazing! But of course it requires more than just click-click-click.



DA:O system is fine too but it really reminds me of some "skills" of Lineage 2. I liked NWN's Feats better.

[Tirigon]

hangmans tree wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Because most of the guys on this forum are Americans, and everyone else is influenced by American values.
And in America, killing is strong and manly. Love is something that should be censored because it´s evil and comes from the devil.
Killers are needed for the Army. People who enjoy love and peace are possible hippies, or maybe even communists, and detrimental to American interests.

Marilyn Manson comes to mind ...

Indeed.

That communist satanist seduces our children into suicide! Burn him!!!

Wait, it was murder... The guys who seduce you into suicide are Judas Priest. Never mind, burn em both!



It is sad, really.

[Tirigon]

slimgrin wrote...

Lol...you're not one to mince words, are you?

If you´re direct people might even understand you. Sometimes at least.

[Riona45]

Or you're just being a troll.

[Kalfear]

slimgrin wrote...

RageGT wrote...

Honestly, I'd say that anyone who thinks that The Witcher's combat is awful, never got to hit a gold talent 5 level strong silver or steel sword. They are amazing! But of course it requires more than just click-click-click.

DA:O system is fine too but it really reminds me of some "skills" of Lineage 2. I liked NWN's Feats better.

Initially, my opinion was the same as most people's regarding combat. But you're right. As you progress, learn to throw in your signs effectively, and dodge, combat isn't bad. Certainly I found it better than the combat in, say, Ego Draconis. Really, so few fantasy rpg's have good combat. DA:O was better than most due to the tactical aspect, and I think I'd rather combat stay largely the same in DA2, only with better enemy AI. 

I gotta say, If I had read this last week id be lost as to what you talking about but I just got gold level 5 fast silver today and WOW!

To go through all 5 levels yo spins and sumersaulting a twerling and just WOW! Its a thing of beuty to watch unfold if you can time it right.

I personally dont think DA:O or Witcher combats can be compared though.
1 is group combat and its well done group combat at that (these stories of combat change have me very worried for DA2 as DA:O got it right the first time out)
1 is single player combat!

Both work very well and acheive what they are going for.

[Gena Mafer]

Witcher is a better RPG than anything BiowEAr has done since BG2, and therefore better than anything else they will ever do, even as JRPG-ish as Witcher was and even with its arguably problematic combat system (although it becomes a thing of acrobatic beauty if you embrace it for what it is). TW was dark and mature; DAO, for all the goofy hype, was not: it was the same old BiowEAr cartoon, no darker or mature than anything else they've done. (The best because densest part were the Origin stories, which of course have gone the way of the dodo.) TW's boobie cards were flat-out awesome; DAO gave us pasties.

Witcher 2 will be better than Dragon Age 2:Mass Effect With Swords: Console-Consumer Accessibility Edition: Episode One; it's simply not possible for it to be otherwise, despite the fact that CDPR is trying as hard as they can to become yet another meretricious XboX juggernaut.

Those darn prideful Poles are lagging, not surprisingly-- but we should all be thankful for it.

Modifié par Gena Mafer, 10 août 2010 - 03:30 .

[thebrah]

SirOccam wrote...

thebrah wrote...

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

I surely can understand that. Romance and character suff are two of my favourite parts in DAO. :-)

 Seriously dude, there's plenty of romance in real life. it still boggles my mind why game devs put horribly done romances into their games.

There's friendship, enemies, violence, betrayal, humor, anger, poverty, wealth, etc. in real life too. Why should romance specifically be excluded? Wouldn't it being a big part of a normal person's life make its absence in the game all the more jarring? Does it make sense for a character to go 10 years without any sort of romance in his or her life?

I don't know why romances have this stigma around them that if you enjoy them you're just desperate or something. They add to a story just as much as (if not more than) hacking and slashing through waves of enemies, right? How come people who just like the killing aren't branded as psychopaths?

they can add to the story but in this case all they contribute are awkward romance scenes.

video games are art guys

[sidion77]

I tried really hard to stick with the witcher but the combat didn't sit right with me. I felt it was trying to be a hybrid action/rpg and just never grabbed the best qualities from either. I've installed and tried playing 3 or 4 times and I simply end up uninstalling it every time. Admittedly the story elements and atmosphere were pretty cool but not enough to redeem it since combat and gameplay factor heavily into my choices for games.

I will admit I'll be keeping an eye on witcher 2 though along with DA2 since I've heard good things.