The Witcher -> Dragon Age II
#851
Posté 15 août 2010 - 12:53
#852
Guest_slimgrin_*
Posté 15 août 2010 - 01:04
Guest_slimgrin_*
Cyberfrog81 wrote...
Well, it is broken, but IMHO not because it is too hard. It is broken because Aard + 1 strong style hit (i.e. the actual finishing move) is all you need to defeat The Beast, a BOSS. I'm not joking.RageGT wrote...
Listening to him talk during the fight with the beast of Vizima is hilarious because its the toughest in the game, In fact, I think that boss fight is basically broken. Personally, I was swearing like a sailor during this fight.
I certainly struggled with that boss for a while, don't get me wrong. The above "tactic" aside, I agree the difficulty is not very balanced. DAO I always found harder in the beginning, then towards the end you can have such a strong party that you hardly have to try. Hopefully both TW2 and DA2 will be balanced well.
I was never able to pull this off, but you're not the first person to claim as much. Rage Gt said more or less the same thing in his post. Oh well.
I tried Flash's combat rebalance mod, and then immediately removed it because it seemed to do some weird stuff, like not allowing me to connect with anything at all with my sword strikes. Anyone else have success with that mod?
#853
Posté 15 août 2010 - 02:01
Cyberfrog81 wrote...
Well, it is broken, but IMHO not because it is too hard. It is broken because Aard + 1 strong style hit (i.e. the actual finishing move) is all you need to defeat The Beast, a BOSS. I'm not joking.
I certainly struggled with that boss for a while, don't get me wrong. The above "tactic" aside, I agree the difficulty is not very balanced. DAO I always found harder in the beginning, then towards the end you can have such a strong party that you hardly have to try. Hopefully both TW2 and DA2 will be balanced well.
I thought that was a really cool element of the game - the fact that boss characters (unless the cutscene needed them partially alive) - did not operate under different rules than mooks.
#854
Posté 15 août 2010 - 02:07
Cyberfrog81 wrote...
Well, it is broken, but IMHO not because it is too hard. It is broken because Aard + 1 strong style hit (i.e. the actual finishing move) is all you need to defeat The Beast, a BOSS. I'm not joking.RageGT wrote...
Listening to him talk during the fight with the beast of Vizima is hilarious because its the toughest in the game, In fact, I think that boss fight is basically broken. Personally, I was swearing like a sailor during this fight.
I certainly struggled with that boss for a while, don't get me wrong. The above "tactic" aside, I agree the difficulty is not very balanced. DAO I always found harder in the beginning, then towards the end you can have such a strong party that you hardly have to try. Hopefully both TW2 and DA2 will be balanced well.
Hey, when quoting someone and editing it to lose the crazy hipnotic squares (talk about a crazy website quote system), please pay attention to avoid such mistakes.
Here's the original post you tried to quote. I said the same thing as you did only that it's not broken. It's very hard to get a knockdown with aard on the hellhound, unless you're playing in Novice mode.
RageGT wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
^ I just watched this. If anyone wants a good laugh, watch the next video in the series ( #35)
Listening to him talk during the fight with the beast of Vizima is hilarious because its the toughest in the game, In fact, I think that boss fight is basically broken. Personally, I was swearing like a sailor during this fight.
I think the difficulty in DA was done better. I found it to be a much harder game. Even on average settings it was challenging, for me anyway.
Edit: Cant believe he has the whole game on there. TW is a monster sized game.
hmm.. the Hellhound is not that hard. Sometimes it requires a few reloads but in Hard I can manage it pretty decently. Of course, you must take into consideration that it is a Monster and Geralt does not have his Silver Sword for monsters at that time. But the Steel Sword with oil plus some mutagens can end that fight really quick. Blizzard with Rubedo properties are very good at that point.
And if you get lucky to get a knockdown from Aard, it's a insta kill! =)
#855
Posté 15 août 2010 - 03:51
#856
Posté 15 août 2010 - 06:25
Riddam wrote...
Didn't much appreciate the dialogue in TW. Apart from the choices, you really had no way to establish a personality. It was mainly used for information gathering.. Reminded me of The Elder scrolls.
Well thats cause the personality was already made for the character!
The witcher isnt like DA:O, its more like what DA2 will be, your playing their character, not your own.
In KotOR and Jade Empire and ME1 and DA:O you gave the character your own touches and personality. Be it through leveling up or interaction, or both
The Witcher allows you to build Geralt your own way but his personality is firmly set in stone really (you do get to choose neutral, knights, elves path ways though in game.
In ME2 and from sounds of things DA2, you also playing Biowares character and you mostly along for the ride! There is no character building.
Im actually ok with The Witcher doing this route because they did it from word go. They didnt come out with these be all and end all RPG games first to attract you and then change to a completely opposite system for the second game like ME2 did and sounds like DA2 is doing.
But I think franchises should be consistant. You draw fans in with one style, you keep that style. Upgrade for sure, but you keep the style.
TW2 is keeping the style and standards they set up in fiorst game, Cant say the same for ME2 or DA2, ME2 was a completely new game, new style, new system and sounds like DA2 will be as well!
I mean McDonalds makes the big Mac, they dont just decide a year from now to use Chicken rather then beef in the Big Mac, now do they?
#857
Posté 15 août 2010 - 07:12
#858
Guest_slimgrin_*
Posté 15 août 2010 - 07:13
Guest_slimgrin_*
Yojimboo wrote...
I loved the melee fights in Witcher, the combo moves were very satisfying, especially the group style combo 4 where he uses 2 swords and everyone loses his head ^^.
There's dual wielding in TW?
#859
Posté 15 août 2010 - 07:19
slimgrin wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
I loved the melee fights in Witcher, the combo moves were very satisfying, especially the group style combo 4 where he uses 2 swords and everyone loses his head ^^.
There's dual wielding in TW?
LOL I was wondering this as well
Dont get me wrong, I WISH I could dual weild and that would be my number 1 suggestion to CD Projekt for TW2 (If I had been around at the start of project).
Not sure what Yoj talking about!
I know the combo hes talking about but thats strong style with Aard stun
#860
Posté 15 août 2010 - 07:25
RageGT wrote...
And the fact that you cannot read one line of what I write and understand it, says something about you. Indeed, any idiot can have something at blogspot. Nobody, including me, ever said that you had to be a journalist to post there. Where the heck did you read me saying that?
From this:
Ok, instead of elaborating your reasons, you link two your blogs reviews, shallow as they may be, hosted by blogspot.com. I don't know about you but I have many friends who do have blogs at blogspot.com and all of them are Journalists, writters by profession and on the vast range of subjects they deal with, usually they deal with what they know, by experience, by study, by research, by whatever means they can access to learn about what they are talking about.
I just assumed you were trying to make a point rather than posting irrelevant nonsense. My bad.
And I still have no idea what you were trying to say with "And yes, they are "reviews" since they do not match the other description of your blog ." How does that make them reviews?
Modifié par AlanC9, 15 août 2010 - 07:31 .
#861
Posté 15 août 2010 - 07:57
Kalfear wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
I loved the melee fights in Witcher, the combo moves were very satisfying, especially the group style combo 4 where he uses 2 swords and everyone loses his head ^^.
There's dual wielding in TW?
LOL I was wondering this as well
Dont get me wrong, I WISH I could dual weild and that would be my number 1 suggestion to CD Projekt for TW2 (If I had been around at the start of project).
Not sure what Yoj talking about!
I know the combo hes talking about but thats strong style with Aard stun
There is a group (group style) combo (i think t's number 4 or 5) where Geralt equips his second sword to do a nice whirlwind to cut heads.
Modifié par Yojimboo, 15 août 2010 - 07:58 .
#862
Posté 15 août 2010 - 08:06
Yojimboo wrote...
Kalfear wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
I loved the melee fights in Witcher, the combo moves were very satisfying, especially the group style combo 4 where he uses 2 swords and everyone loses his head ^^.
There's dual wielding in TW?
LOL I was wondering this as well
Dont get me wrong, I WISH I could dual weild and that would be my number 1 suggestion to CD Projekt for TW2 (If I had been around at the start of project).
Not sure what Yoj talking about!
I know the combo hes talking about but thats strong style with Aard stun
There is a group (group style) combo (i think t's number 4 or 5) where Geralt equips his second sword to do a nice whirlwind to cut heads.
ahhhh I understand now,
nope, thats fast silver and its only 1 sword but it does spin and look like 2 swords.
its #5 style and a real B**** to pull off sometimes lol!
I forgot, that does cut off heads as well, your right on that one!
I was thinking aard+strong steel combo where you stun, walk behind and decapitate opponent
Modifié par Kalfear, 15 août 2010 - 08:08 .
#863
Posté 15 août 2010 - 08:08
Kalfear wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
Kalfear wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
I loved the melee fights in Witcher, the combo moves were very satisfying, especially the group style combo 4 where he uses 2 swords and everyone loses his head ^^.
There's dual wielding in TW?
LOL I was wondering this as well
Dont get me wrong, I WISH I could dual weild and that would be my number 1 suggestion to CD Projekt for TW2 (If I had been around at the start of project).
Not sure what Yoj talking about!
I know the combo hes talking about but thats strong style with Aard stun
There is a group (group style) combo (i think t's number 4 or 5) where Geralt equips his second sword to do a nice whirlwind to cut heads.
ahhhh I understand now,
nope, thats fast silver and its only 1 sword but it does spin and look like 2 swords.
its #5 style and a real B**** to pull off sometimes lol!
I just played TW maybe 2 hours ago and i am pretty sure he did a whirlwind attack with 2 swords and decapitatet 6 Bandits
#864
Posté 15 août 2010 - 08:09
Yojimboo wrote...
Kalfear wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
Kalfear wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
I loved the melee fights in Witcher, the combo moves were very satisfying, especially the group style combo 4 where he uses 2 swords and everyone loses his head ^^.
There's dual wielding in TW?
LOL I was wondering this as well
Dont get me wrong, I WISH I could dual weild and that would be my number 1 suggestion to CD Projekt for TW2 (If I had been around at the start of project).
Not sure what Yoj talking about!
I know the combo hes talking about but thats strong style with Aard stun
There is a group (group style) combo (i think t's number 4 or 5) where Geralt equips his second sword to do a nice whirlwind to cut heads.
ahhhh I understand now,
nope, thats fast silver and its only 1 sword but it does spin and look like 2 swords.
its #5 style and a real B**** to pull off sometimes lol!
I just played TW maybe 2 hours ago and i am pretty sure he did a whirlwind attack with 2 swords and decapitatet 6 Bandits.
and ill lay real money you didnt as the silver sword and steel sword are two handed swords!
Oh and ill say you P and raise you a PP
Modifié par Kalfear, 15 août 2010 - 08:11 .
#865
Posté 15 août 2010 - 08:17
#866
Posté 15 août 2010 - 08:28
Yojimboo wrote...
Thats not correct, both swords can be held with 1 hand they are after all longswords and not flamberge/twohander/Claymores. Those swords where also used in combination with shields. Hmm maybe i try to get a screenshot ;p.
LOL all the power, Id love to see this screeen shot with a sheild
And so we clear, im talking you with sheild, not someone else
Also you never use the steel and silver at same time, thats why you have steel str, fast, grp / Silver str., fast, grp
#867
Guest_slimgrin_*
Posté 15 août 2010 - 08:36
Guest_slimgrin_*
#868
Posté 15 août 2010 - 08:37
Kalfear wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
Thats not correct, both swords can be held with 1 hand they are after all longswords and not flamberge/twohander/Claymores. Those swords where also used in combination with shields. Hmm maybe i try to get a screenshot ;p.
LOL all the power, Id love to see this screeen shot with a sheildhehe
And so we clear, im talking you with sheild, not someone else
Also you never use the steel and silver at same time, thats why you have steel str, fast, grp / Silver str., fast, grp
I think you are misunderstanding me, i never said he uses a shield. Just that Longswords where used in combination with shields, also the silver one is more like a short sword and if you look at the starting stance in silver you would see he only uses 1 hand for it
Modifié par Yojimboo, 15 août 2010 - 09:11 .
#869
Posté 15 août 2010 - 09:11
#870
Posté 15 août 2010 - 09:22
Slim, you ever seen two swords drawn at once?
Sorry Yoj but either you photo shopped that picture or you got a real funky version of game cause im telling you (and others will back me up) there is no dual weild in game!
LOL, not trying to be difficult but this is something im 150% sure on!
heck ill even go ask on witcher site to be sure and post your screen shot
posted question at witcher.com (link in my sig) on the general discussion forum for a mod to answer and set clear so drop by there (better place for non DA2 comparrison issues/discussion anyways as this doesnt really have anything to do with this site)
Modifié par Kalfear, 15 août 2010 - 09:28 .
#871
Posté 15 août 2010 - 09:31
Drizzt ORierdan wrote...
Well, the Witcher is not for everybody, thats for sure, and thats not a crime. Im a firm believer that gamers should stick to what they like. Were not in the Chantry here, seeking to convert the heathen...
But going back to Amstrad's posts, it never ceases to amaze me the fact of how different people are affected so differently by the same work of art, movie, book or in this case, "artsy" videogame. The same scene that Amstrad describes as something that put him off so much, was the scene that won me over and made me fell in love with the character.
SPOILERS AHEAD
Geralt is facing a hostile crowd, and he gives a speech about the human condition (the most emotive speech I heard in an RPG) and the girl hes defending just looks at him all thankful and gleamy eyes... I remember I had teary eyes myself at that point... Then he dismisses the crowd WITHOUT resorting to use his sword. The scene is so powerful that Im sure many gamers should've felt smthg similar, as this video of the "legendary Toegoff" proves
http://www.youtube.c.../33/eS22Md49fNI
DONT CLICK UNLESS YOU WANT TO GET REALLY SPOILED
How do you get such an outcome where Geralt doesn´t have to use his sword? I always have to kill all those idiots who want to burn Abigail. (Mind you, I do gladly because that bunch of murderers and rapists had it coming all the time, but still I wonder).
#872
Posté 15 août 2010 - 09:36
slimgrin wrote...
For me, the biggest flaws of the TW are:
-Technical issues, which include occasional slowdown during fights, and some crashing.
I find it amazing that you say this about Witcher. I had such problems with DAO, but never with Witcher (I only played Extended Edition though).
#873
Posté 15 août 2010 - 09:41
Kalfear wrote...
slimgrin wrote...
Yojimboo wrote...
I loved the melee fights in Witcher, the combo moves were very satisfying, especially the group style combo 4 where he uses 2 swords and everyone loses his head ^^.
There's dual wielding in TW?
LOL I was wondering this as well
Dont get me wrong, I WISH I could dual weild and that would be my number 1 suggestion to CD Projekt for TW2 (If I had been around at the start of project).
Not sure what Yoj talking about!
I know the combo hes talking about but thats strong style with Aard stun
There is no dual wielding as a style, but if you chain enough attacks successfully in the group style Geralt draws his other sword and fights with both for the final, deadly hits in the chain.
Edit: I have never seen Geralt with both swords out of combat, though, as the screenshot shows.
Modifié par Tirigon, 15 août 2010 - 09:42 .
#874
Posté 15 août 2010 - 10:13
Kalfear wrote...
hmmmmm, I just finished game and never saw that.
Slim, you ever seen two swords drawn at once?
Sorry Yoj but either you photo shopped that picture or you got a real funky version of game cause im telling you (and others will back me up) there is no dual weild in game!
LOL, not trying to be difficult but this is something im 150% sure on!
heck ill even go ask on witcher site to be sure and post your screen shot
posted question at witcher.com (link in my sig) on the general discussion forum for a mod to answer and set clear so drop by there (better place for non DA2 comparrison issues/discussion anyways as this doesnt really have anything to do with this site)
Actually thats the charged up version of the group style. I don't know if it was in the prior version of Witcher but i use Witcher Enhanced. There you can charge up your styles just like your sings.
Lol @ photoshop, just try it yourself.
#875
Posté 15 août 2010 - 01:08
Loved playing the Witcher and cut tons of heads with the "charging" attack.
Something had to be maxed out, when i remember correctly, so Geralt take his other Sword.
"using steel sword, group style, charging it makes you dual wield" found it via google.
EDIT:
Geralt dual wields during the level 4 group steel special attack (The Executioner).
You
hold down the left mouse button and he un-sheaths his silver sword, and
if you release the LMB when it's fully charged he'll attack do a 4 or 5
hit combo with both swords, although it's still a steel combo.
He
also dual wields with a short weapon during the final, level 5 attack
of group silver. Whatever short weapon you have, he'll incorporate it
into the combo, although I'm unsure weather the weapon's individual
properties have any effect, usually because the 5th combo kills them
outright so it's hard to tell whether the knife causes pain and
poisoning, or whether the axe dislodges the shield.
Modifié par LucifersAngelLHC PS3 Account, 15 août 2010 - 01:15 .




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