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hangmans tree wrote...

*SPEACHLESS*
- 16 endings
- 3 ways to start the game depending on your save from 1st game!
- Instead of 700 loading screens we will get...FOUR!
- Armour: customisable consisting of 30 pieces which can be tuned to ones liking...
- 256 movie sequeences (2,5 hours)
- new sign, now 6 total.
- stealth action, and infra/lowlight -vision
- hot-damn, best looking RPG I've ever seen :]

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full list of screens:
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I hope...


Thank you so much for sharing this! =)))

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rage, you like that, check out my sig, youll flip

Thosae SSs do look good tho :)

Modifié par Kalfear, 21 août 2010 - 08:45 .


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slimgrin wrote...

Boxing was atrocious in TW1, and I see no point in trying to polish a turd. Sorry if I offend. Obviously I feel strongly about pointless minigames, and developer's obsession with including them.


Hey. I liked it! I defeated them all! All you need is to spend a few talents in the boxing abilities. 1 for Strength and 1 for Dexterity! =) It reminded me of Fable. The big surprise is really who the final boxer is. Not what expected, really, after defeating The Rock! heh

I did ALL my money in TW with gambling. I'm quite good at dice poker and made really more than I ever needed in the game. I sucked them all dry! I only stopped with one vict..err.. opponent when they had no more money to gamble! All the books, all the jewelery, all the flowers to my beautiful ladies... ahh good times.

I'm about to start my 6th and definitive TW1 run with the only path I want to go into TW2. also, save games in TW are quite problematic and it would require to store the file into a separate folder to keep track of all the endings. =)


Kalfear wrote...

rage, you like that, check out my sig, youll flip

Thosae SSs do look good tho :)


Oh I will. Thank you too! =)

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I beat all boxing without expending a talent on it. But poker dice was hell after they fixed the rival´s stupidity, there´s only one way of making money there.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

I beat all boxing without expending a talent on it. But poker dice was hell after they fixed the rival´s stupidity, there´s only one way of making money there.


LOL, the dice driving me crazy!

I roll 2 2s
they roll 2 3s
I get a third 2
they get a 5th 3

I HAVE YET to win 2 consecutive dice games in The Witcher (other then saving after a win and reloading till I win again of course).

It gets so silly some times

Today I rolled 4 5s on my first roll
computer rolled pair of 3s
I didnt get the 5th 5
computer got 5 1s (rolled everything) and beat me

I stopped playing dice for a while at that moment

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Well, AI usually cheats and in this particular mini game, it cheats a lot! I hate when I have 2 pairs and the dice I change comes back with the exact same figure that I was trying to change!



What I do, as supersticion, is to shake the board a lot when I'm throwing... hehe (mouse over the edge frenetically). I usually win without that many reloads.



I always go for max ammount for the pool and between the rounds, no matter if I have nothing and AI has four-of-a-kind. It adds to the total and if we win the other two rounds... mo' money!



And it also works for that apparently lost round sometimes. AI still has four-of-a-kind after re-rolling and I might get a royal flush! It has happened!

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Dragon Age 2 looks like crap compared to this.

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So the devs for TW2 have said there will be only 4 loading screens in the whole game. How can this be possible, unless we have only 4 chapters?



The demo was impressive given that you start in a dungeon, and then walk right out into this vast landscape with no loading. They also said that it will be accessible to explore.

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killingsheep24 wrote...

Dragon Age 2 looks like crap compared to this.


Don't get me wrong, The witcher 2 looks good, but let's keep things in perspective. DA2 presumably has a much bigger budget (DA outsold The Witcher, and EA and Bioware are just richer than CD project), Bioware has much more experiance than them, and have proven many times over that they can make great story driven games, DA2 has a better, more tactical combat system, and the witcher 2 is translated from another language. I think when Bioware releases gameplay footage, if they ever do :devil:, you will see the difference.

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AndrahilAdrian wrote...

killingsheep24 wrote...

Dragon Age 2 looks like crap compared to this.


Don't get me wrong, The witcher 2 looks good, but let's keep things in perspective. DA2 presumably has a much bigger budget (DA outsold The Witcher, and EA and Bioware are just richer than CD project), Bioware has much more experiance than them, and have proven many times over that they can make great story driven games, DA2 has a better, more tactical combat system, and the witcher 2 is translated from another language. I think when Bioware releases gameplay footage, if they ever do :devil:, you will see the difference.


All these facts make it even more sad that Witcher 2 is probably superior and looks better than DA2.

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The oh so used "duming down" of da2 is to my mind because of the EA bandwagon that markets the **** out of you and in return wants many copies sold. TW2 is not aiming to be friendly, unlike da2. No one is busting CDPs balls so that they sell and sell and sell. 

Modifié par saruman31, 22 août 2010 - 07:35 .


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Tirigon wrote...

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

killingsheep24 wrote...

Dragon Age 2 looks like crap compared to this.


Don't get me wrong, The witcher 2 looks good, but let's keep things in perspective. DA2 presumably has a much bigger budget (DA outsold The Witcher, and EA and Bioware are just richer than CD project), Bioware has much more experiance than them, and have proven many times over that they can make great story driven games, DA2 has a better, more tactical combat system, and the witcher 2 is translated from another language. I think when Bioware releases gameplay footage, if they ever do :devil:, you will see the difference.


All these facts make it even more sad that Witcher 2 is probably superior and looks better than DA2.


Thats my feeling on the matter as well!

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saruman31 wrote...

The oh so used "duming down" of da2 is to my mind because of the EA bandwagon that markets the **** out of you and in return wants many copies sold. TW2 is not aiming to be friendly, unlike da2. No one is busting CDPs balls so that they sell and sell and sell. 

c'mon, the witcher 2 doesn't even let you take control of your party members, there are no classes, and the magic system is limited to say the least. Its a straight up action/rpg. Just because CK Projekt is smaller than bioware doesn't mean they are more hardcore.

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AndrahilAdrian wrote...

saruman31 wrote...

The oh so used "duming down" of da2 is to my mind because of the EA bandwagon that markets the **** out of you and in return wants many copies sold. TW2 is not aiming to be friendly, unlike da2. No one is busting CDPs balls so that they sell and sell and sell. 

c'mon, the witcher 2 doesn't even let you take control of your party members, there are no classes, and the magic system is limited to say the least. Its a straight up action/rpg. Just because CK Projekt is smaller than bioware doesn't mean they are more hardcore.

Ahem.

witcher2game.com/2010/06/the-witcher-2-proud-to-be-hardcore/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Wish_%28book%29

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_of_the_Elves

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_witcher

Modifié par Zanderat, 22 août 2010 - 07:50 .


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CD Project decides the distributor, probably that helps, and for whatever reason they´ve gone to Namco instead of repeating with Atari. BW is stuck with EA, and if they are the ones putting the money they probably can have more input in the game than they should.

Can´t help thinking that someone high saw DA:O sales they thought "This sales saying it was the successor to an old game! Let´s make it modern and we´ll have double!"

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AndrahilAdrian wrote...

saruman31 wrote...

The oh so used "duming down" of da2 is to my mind because of the EA bandwagon that markets the **** out of you and in return wants many copies sold. TW2 is not aiming to be friendly, unlike da2. No one is busting CDPs balls so that they sell and sell and sell. 

c'mon, the witcher 2 doesn't even let you take control of your party members, there are no classes, and the magic system is limited to say the least. Its a straight up action/rpg. Just because CK Projekt is smaller than bioware doesn't mean they are more hardcore.


Very wrong.

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Hey you guys. TW2 isn't necessarily the second coming. I have my doubts just as others do about DA2.

Some of the bad:

-Consolitus. Don't care if this enrages console users, but the TW1 was a dyed-in-the-wool PC rpg. That's what I want for the sequel. But there is evidence to the contrary. If they sold so many copies on pc, why even bother with catering to consoles? There are a number of games on console that I want, but will never get. So be it. CD Projekt needs to follow Blizzard's example here. You want this game? Buy a damn computer. At least that's the stance of so many console-based publishers who don't give a rats ass about their pc fan base.

-Boxing minigame. Animations look cool and refreshing ( MMA) but I still think its a waste of resources and time on the dev's part.

-Using amulet will now highlight relevant object's in areas, ala Arkham Asylum. Someone please explain to me how this doesn't spell 'dumbed down'.

-CD Projekt might be trying to bite off more than they can chew. So far TW2 will be:

1. Largely free roaming, open-world gameplay

2. Story-based with a dizzying number of alternative plot threads. I have fewer veins in my body than variations in the flow chart they showed at GamesCom.

3. Satisfying, complex, fast-twitch gameplay. I have yet to see an RPG do this. It has long been the domain of action games, and for good reason. It's hard as hell to do. And few action games get it right, let alone the many RPG's that have utterly failed at reflex-based combat. Here's looking at you, Ego Draconis.

Certainly the graphics look outstanding, the dialog I have heard is classic Witcher, and well written. And I know that the sheer ambition of the first title carried it far beyond its minor faults. But I'm beginning to think if CD Projekt pulls this one off, it will be a miracle.

And I will gladly eat crow afterwards if necessary. :)

Modifié par slimgrin, 22 août 2010 - 08:51 .


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Zanderat wrote...

AndrahilAdrian wrote...

saruman31 wrote...

The oh so used "duming down" of da2 is to my mind because of the EA bandwagon that markets the **** out of you and in return wants many copies sold. TW2 is not aiming to be friendly, unlike da2. No one is busting CDPs balls so that they sell and sell and sell. 

c'mon, the witcher 2 doesn't even let you take control of your party members, there are no classes, and the magic system is limited to say the least. Its a straight up action/rpg. Just because CK Projekt is smaller than bioware doesn't mean they are more hardcore.

Ahem.

witcher2game.com/2010/06/the-witcher-2-proud-to-be-hardcore/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_Wish_%28book%29

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_of_the_Elves

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_witcher

I'm not saying the witcher series doesn't have a kickass story. However, DA2 will probably have one as well (Bioware only failed once), and DA2 also has party based tactical gameplay, which the witcher lacks.:kissing:

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AndrahilAdrian wrote...

c'mon, the witcher 2 doesn't even let you take control of your party members, there are no classes, and the magic system is limited to say the least. Its a straight up action/rpg. Just because CK Projekt is smaller than bioware doesn't mean they are more hardcore.


Nevertheless, the Witcher had a refreshingly different gameplay. Personally I quite liked it not to be limited by classes.

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Hey you guys. TW2 isn't necessarily the second coming. I have my doubts just as others do about DA2.

Some of the bad:

-Consolitus. Don't care if this enrages console users, but the TW1 was a dyed-in-the-wool PC rpg. That's what I want for the sequel. But there is evidence to the contrary. If they sold so many copies on pc, why even bother with catering to consoles? There are a number of games on console that I want, but will never get. So be it. CD Projekt needs to follow Blizzard's example here. You want this game? Buy a damn computer. At least that's the stance of so many console-based publishers who don't give a rats ass about their pc fan base.

-Boxing minigame. Animations look cool and refreshing ( MMA) but I still think its a waste of resources and time on the dev's part.

-Using amulet will now highlight relevant object's in areas, ala Arkham Asylum. Someone please explain to me how this doesn't spell 'dumbed down'.

-CD Projekt might be trying to bite off more than they can chew. So far TW2 will be:

1. Largely free roaming, open-world gameplay

2. Story-based with a dizzying number of alternative plot threads. I have fewer veins in my body than variations in the flow chart they showed at GamesCom.

3. Satisfying, complex, fast-twitch gameplay. I have yet to see an RPG do this. It has long been the domain of action games, and for good reason. It's hard as hell to do. And few action games get it right, let alone the many RPG's that have utterly failed at reflex-based combat. Here's looking at you, Ego Draconis.

Certainly the graphics look outstanding, the dialog I have heard is classic Witcher, and well written. And I know that the sheer ambition of the first title carried it far beyond its minor faults. But I'm beginning to think if CD Projekt pulls this one off, it will be a miracle.

And I will gladly eat crow afterwards if necessary. :)


I dont have Slims concerns (course I didnt play Arkums Asylum either) but ditto!

Ill eat my crow if Witcher 2 sticks but right now, Its silly to compare dA2 to Witcher 2 cause DA2 is not going to stand up well in the comparrison (based on what we KNOW)

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Maybe I'm just being an old Fuddy-duddy. I hope so. I have high hopes for both games.

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AndrahilAdrian wrote...

I'm not saying the witcher series doesn't have a kickass story. However, DA2 will probably have one as well (Bioware only failed once), and DA2 also has party based tactical gameplay, which the witcher lacks.:kissing:


Failed Once? And yet that is their best ever game delivered ever? Have you tried any of the amazing worlds created or adapted from literature to such "one time fail"? The OC was just like a demo of what could be done..

http://nwn.wikia.com...gory:Gameworlds

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If one sees DA2 as an unavoidable epic fail and Witcher 2 as the second coming... Yeah, that seems odd to me. I still think there is a great chance that both will be awesome. BioWare knows what they are doing - they will probably again deliver a great story with awesome characters. CD Projekt RED have a lot less experience, but on the other hand they have a huge amount of talent, ambition and enthusiasm, and have developed an RPG engine to be perfect for creating the worlds they want to create and telling the stories they want to tell.



It is an interesting duel. I'm certainly not going to announce the winner just yet. And obviously we want both games to be awesome, so that there's more RPG goodness for us. Right?

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Exactly! But TW2 I'm getting as soon as I can. DA2 I'll have to try first.