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[Kalfear]

hangmans tree wrote...

Another thing that excites me is that there are 130,000 lines of dialog in TW2...IIRC DA:O had around 68,000 is that correct?

Yup, Slim found that stat out!

I wouldnt expect 68,000 for DA2 though, probably more in the ME2 area of 25,000. 68,000 seems really outta place and the exception for Bioware games (ME=20,000, ME2=25,000, KotOR and Jade Empire were even less).

Deus Ex 3 has a reported 200,000 lines of dialog (heheh cant wait for that game as well)

[Ryllen Laerth Kriel]

Holy crap, around 130,000 lines of spoken dialogue for TW2? I hope their voice actors are good! And that's almost it's own dvd for the installation I bet. The little combat footage of the sequel looks far better than the combat of the first game. I might have to pick it up, plus it's good to support the developer, they seem to be a promising company.

[Osena109]

Am going to get  witcher for my PC so i can import my save game

Am geting Dragon age 2 for my Xbox 360



and who would win in knock down drag out fight  Sten or  Geralt?

[hangmans tree]

Geralt clean or on his witcher meds?

[Mich-cz]

hangmans tree wrote...

Another thing that excites me is that there are 130,000 lines of dialog in TW2...IIRC DA:O had around 68,000 is that correct?

DAO had 68.260 words not lines AFAIK.

[jazzy B 3]

130k lines of dialogue? Assuming each line takes on average 4 seconds, that's 520k seconds, 8.6 reoccurring thousand minutes or 144.4 recurring hours of spoken dialogue.



Assuming normal compression methods that's around 1 meg per minute, that's more than a single DVD can contain. More like two standard DVDs (4.7 GB afaik).

[hangmans tree]

so maybe its words not lines, I'm not citing after the source...

[Wyndham711]

It would be an absolute shame if DA2 ended up being the lesser game in this comparison. I want Witcher 2 to reach it's goals and be as awesome as it currently seems, but still by no means should BioWare allow themselves to loose to CD Project - a much smaller, less experienced developer with a much smaller budget. It would be akin to a lion getting eaten by a lynx. I still hope DA2 will be the more content rich, deep, well written and polished experience, for BioWare's sake.

[Wyndham711]

slimgrin wrote...

Here's a link seeming to confirm 200,000 lines for Deus Ex. That is just crazy. It might be too much. 

I agree, it sounds absolutely insane. Especially for a 20-30 hour game. I just can't see how that could be.

[Tirigon]

hangmans tree wrote...

Another thing that excites me is that there are 130,000 lines of dialog in TW2...IIRC DA:O had around 68,000 is that correct?

Well, Halo has as much lines as DAO according to some website. So the plain number doesn´t really tell much...


And another thing that might be interesting: 130k for ONE language, or for ALL?! After all, TW Enhanced Editions had like 10 different languages to choose from, so if it´s for ALL, that means in the language of your choice you have only 13k lines. (Which is much more realistic).

Modifié par Tirigon, 25 août 2010 - 01:04 .

[Nerevar-as]

Wyndham711 wrote...

It would be an absolute shame if DA2 ended up being the lesser game in this comparison. I want Witcher 2 to reach it's goals and be as awesome as it currently seems, but still by no means should BioWare allow themselves to loose to CD Project - a much smaller, less experienced developer with a much smaller budget. It would be akin to a lion getting eaten by a lynx. I still hope DA2 will be the more content rich, deep, well written and polished experience, for BioWare's sake.

CD Project plays with the advantages of developing only The Witcher 2 so far and going solo for PC. That means no limits because of lesser hardware and also if necessary thay can use more than one disc. From what I know ME2 being 2 discs in 360 was kind of the exception. Which is strange, despite everything said about console gamers, that they would not get a better game because of disk swapping is hard to believe.

They also have a much better patching policy than BW.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 25 août 2010 - 01:27 .

[Estel78]

Nerevar-as wrote...

CD Project plays with the advantages of developing only The Witcher 2 so far and going solo for PC. That means no limits because of lesser hardware and also if necessary thay can use more than one disc. 

According to CD Project they developed the new engine with consoles in mind and they already have prototypes running on console hardware that look identical to the PC version (bar the super high screen resolution).

Modifié par Estel78, 25 août 2010 - 01:46 .

[Wyndham711]

Nerevar-as wrote...


CD Project plays with the advantages of developing only The Witcher 2 so far and going solo for PC. That means no limits because of lesser hardware and also if necessary thay can use more than one disc.

The graphics being better in Witcher 2 is to be expected, first of all it's a single character RPG with a PC focus whereas DA2 is group based and designed with the consoles in mind first and foremost. Clearly the engine of Witcher 2 is very impressive and designed to sport some amazing graphics, but that alone wont make it a better game than DA2. I think much more important are factors like gameplay depth, amount/variety of content, polish, storytelling, characters etc. Those are things that are hard to predict either way until both games are released.

[Shaehl]

The main difference between Bioware and CD Project Red is the fact that CD Project is actually trying to make an excellent RPG. On the other hand, EA run Bioware is merely trying to make a cash cow. DA2 will be just good enough and just polished enough to give them something to feed their marketing hype machine, but no better. TW2 will be a masterpiece made by craftsman who take pride in their artistry.



Just compare the proposed improvements to these two sequels. DA2 boasts a campaign that is only a fraction of the size of its predecessor, no more mod tools and an arguably dumbed down combat system. The biggest real feature seems to be the addition of voiced dialogue on the main character's part--and even that is controversial.



Meanwhile, TW2 will house a vastly better game and graphics engine, a campaign even grander in scope and scale, and even more emphasis on real and meaningful consequences to your actions, as opposed to Bioware's "all roads lead to Rome, the only difference is your color (black or white) when you get there" style of decision making.

[Estel78]

Shaehl wrote...

The main difference between Bioware and CD Project Red is the fact that CD Project is actually trying to make an excellent RPG. On the other hand, EA run Bioware is merely trying to make a cash cow. DA2 will be just good enough and just polished enough to give them something to feed their marketing hype machine, but no better. TW2 will be a masterpiece made by craftsman who take pride in their artistry.

Typical jaded, cynical, internet, hater hogwash because you don't like the direction Bioware is going.

[Shaehl]

Estel78 wrote...

Typical jaded, cynical, internet, hater hogwash because you don't like the direction Bioware is going.

Typical blinder-wearing, cool-aid-drinking, fanboy nonsense because you refuse to see the blatant scheme EA is running here.

[ErichHartmann]

Shaehl wrote...

Estel78 wrote...

Typical jaded, cynical, internet, hater hogwash because you don't like the direction Bioware is going.

Typical blinder-wearing, cool-aid-drinking, fanboy nonsense because you refuse to see the blatant scheme EA is running here.

And yet you still post here. <_<

[Tirigon]

Estel78 wrote...

Shaehl wrote...

The main difference between Bioware and CD Project Red is the fact that CD Project is actually trying to make an excellent RPG. On the other hand, EA run Bioware is merely trying to make a cash cow. DA2 will be just good enough and just polished enough to give them something to feed their marketing hype machine, but no better. TW2 will be a masterpiece made by craftsman who take pride in their artistry.

Typical jaded, cynical, internet, hater hogwash because you don't like the direction Bioware is going.

Nevertheless true. Sadly.

[Estel78]

Every Bioware game to date has given me many fun hours (bar NWN), i have no reason to believe it'll be different with DA2.

If loving their games makes me a fanboy then i guess i'm a fanboy.

Modifié par Estel78, 25 août 2010 - 05:35 .

[Estel78]

Tirigon wrote...

Nevertheless true. Sadly.

If you believe that Bioware doesn't take pride in their work and isn't trying to make the best games possible you are as cynical and wrong as Shaehl.

As for EA, Bioware got rid of RPG tropes such as inventory or dabbled in the action genre long before Mass Effect 2, long before EA took over, with Jade Empire.

Modifié par Estel78, 25 août 2010 - 06:14 .

[Sp3cia1]

Will be buying the witcher 2 over the Dragon Age: console edition (did i say that i mean Dragon age 2)

[Yana Montana]

Witcher 2 seems like a great improvement over Witcher 1 and I am definitely looking forward to play this game, as I really like the original game.



The only thing I find appealing in DA 2 is that I can play as FemHawke. I still prefer my Wardens and Leliana over her though.