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The Witcher -> Dragon Age II

Débuté par Quercus , juil. 30 2010 04:30

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Posté 02 septembre 2010 - 11:09

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RageGT wrote...

Thanks for the translation, Tirigon! So, Risen will have a sequel and they didn't add a 2 to it? Won't lots of people "be confused"? arf arf arf™

I don't know why people have problem with Geralt and his cards. They are all optional, except for two IIRC. You can save Abgail and still do not eat from her witch pot!

For the record, I'm a super fanatic fan boy... but like I said... this is not like my Corinthians, "the best football team in the planet"! (or course, any fan of any other club will disagree). I can never support another team. So I am a fan boy of many awesome games!

But games? The more great games there are, the happier I am. I'm registered on Bioboards since BG, then later NWN, NWN 2 and now DA:O.

On JooWood's Gothic forums since Gothic 3 but I had played (and loved) Gothic 2 since release.

On Deep Silver's Risen forums since release. And on World of Gothic where Piranha Bytes the Managing Director usually posts and talks to the community, as well as other PB staff... kinda like BW people here... only that there the boss is always present! =)

On, and on CDP's The Witcher forums too.

Heck, even on Bethesda's MW and Oblivion forums. I really had a great time with those games, although I don't think I'll be able to ever play them again.

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Once all sword styles are upgraded, combat in TW becomes quite spectacular and perfectly conveys the momentum & speed that separates a Witcher from a mere mortal and makes it possible for them to slay monsters.


Perfectly said and I fully agree with you! And people having a hard time with the timing, just change diff to Novice or Intermediate because the cursor will have a HUGE tip for the right time to attack. With the Isometric camera that will make the game very familiar to players used to the NWN/NWN2 camera.

With the OTS I don't know how's the tips-to-click other than in Expert mode where it's very subtle and I don't even pay attention to it. Once you get the feeling for the right time to attack, prolly after a few runs with the game in lower diffs like I did, you can really enjoy it.

Don't sell yourself short if you can't master any game combat system right at the first time you play. I doubt many people do. But even a very average player like me can master many different systems in many different games and it's a very good feeling when I do get it. A little determination, persistence and well, of course, enough time to play the game. People with no time to learn or to play ccompulsively, should not try the hardest difficulty of games because they're usually demanding and very frustrating on a first run.



Compared to something like Street fighter, combat in TW is elementary. I am excited about swordplay in TW2 though.   

Modifié par slimgrin, 02 septembre 2010 - 11:09 .

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Posté 02 septembre 2010 - 11:13

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Speaking of combat, I would love to see someone try to recreate the freedom of movement Die by the Sword had. The ability to swing at (and chop off) individual limbs was great. Unfortunately the controls and technology were not up to the task.

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Posté 02 septembre 2010 - 11:20

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Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, I think you have to be in a certain frame of mind about the sex cards. It's comic relief. Except.. Abigail's card? OMG, Geralt buddy, you obviously had potion goggles when you did her. LOL

I hope they approach the sex/ romance angle in less than junior high fashion in W2. Geralt is sexy, I believe that women would be throwing themselves at him, but a bit of conversation before or after would be nice.


Not just Abigail´s. There are a few others:sick:, as the vampire one. And yes, even devs admit they were a bit too much.

There are no mandatory sex cards I know of. And 2? I can think the blonde prostitue you have to sleep with to advance a quest, but that just means not solving that especific quest. It´s the same as refusing the elf/order quest in swamp in chapter 2 becuase I´m neutral whenever unless forced otherwise (stupid Yaevinn, but he had it coming since book 4).

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Posté 02 septembre 2010 - 11:26

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heh... I may by wrong but I heard that combat will be have 2 variants ... one for gamers who don't care about combat ( for them pressing a single button will by enough to go ahead) ... and in second gamers who like to combined with combat (They will receive a extensive character development in combat styles and so on)... soo something for everyone :)

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Posté 02 septembre 2010 - 11:54

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Maybe not 2 variants per se, but "easy" difficulty is supposedly such that you don't have to use advanced techniques/combos to survive. It's just marketing, I suppose, sending out two messages ("we will have a great combat system" and something like "you don't need to be any good at action games to enjoy the game"). I don't know which is more likely, people getting confused or people hearing the message they most want to hear...

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 12:03

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well sure this will depend on a difficulty of game which you choice ... but it's the same thing... you don't care combat?... choice "easy"... you like to combine?... choice "normal" , "hard".... or "hardcore" if you like to die and play from the beginning :D

Modifié par Damariel, 03 septembre 2010 - 12:04 .

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 12:06

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I don't see combat being very easy in TW2. 6 magic signs, two sword styles, oils and bombs, potions too. It will be pretty involved, and I definitely won't be playing it on some cheap easy mode that excludes all this.

Modifié par slimgrin, 03 septembre 2010 - 12:10 .

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 12:17

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heh... I would start on "hard" ... and probably change to "normal" when die in prologue ;)

Modifié par Damariel, 03 septembre 2010 - 12:19 .

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 12:24

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, I think you have to be in a certain frame of mind about the sex cards. It's comic relief. Except.. Abigail's card? OMG, Geralt buddy, you obviously had potion goggles when you did her. LOL

I hope they approach the sex/ romance angle in less than junior high fashion in W2. Geralt is sexy, I believe that women would be throwing themselves at him, but a bit of conversation before or after would be nice.


Not just Abigail´s. There are a few others:sick:, as the vampire one. And yes, even devs admit they were a bit too much.

There are no mandatory sex cards I know of. And 2? I can think the blonde prostitue you have to sleep with to advance a quest, but that just means not solving that especific quest. It´s the same as refusing the elf/order quest in swamp in chapter 2 becuase I´m neutral whenever unless forced otherwise (stupid Yaevinn, but he had it coming since book 4).

Yeah I know, but are you really going to say no when the wench sticks her breasts in your face and says "do this life-threatening favor for me and you will be rewarded"?  Not on a first playthrough.  :devil:

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 12:31

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AlanC9 wrote...

Abigail creeped me out more than any other -- unless it's one that I didn't get.

I thought the cards were a good mechanism. They give you a reward for doing something that your character finds rewarding.

It sounds like sometimes they're a punishment.  LOL

Anyway, I would say that Bioware will do better, but if the cup size on the females is going up to watermelon in DA2, they'll probably be right on par with W2.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 12:49

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Addai67 wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, I think you have to be in a certain frame of mind about the sex cards. It's comic relief. Except.. Abigail's card? OMG, Geralt buddy, you obviously had potion goggles when you did her. LOL

I hope they approach the sex/ romance angle in less than junior high fashion in W2. Geralt is sexy, I believe that women would be throwing themselves at him, but a bit of conversation before or after would be nice.


Not just Abigail´s. There are a few others:sick:, as the vampire one. And yes, even devs admit they were a bit too much.

There are no mandatory sex cards I know of. And 2? I can think the blonde prostitue you have to sleep with to advance a quest, but that just means not solving that especific quest. It´s the same as refusing the elf/order quest in swamp in chapter 2 becuase I´m neutral whenever unless forced otherwise (stupid Yaevinn, but he had it coming since book 4).

Yeah I know, but are you really going to say no when the wench sticks her breasts in your face and says "do this life-threatening favor for me and you will be rewarded"?  Not on a first playthrough.  :devil:


Yeah, first playthrough was get as many as I could. Regretted getting some, and others were really forced. Now I´m trying to play as the character from the books. Don´t think I´ll get 1/3 of them. I don´t see Geralt sleeping with Abigail, for example, both for her actions and the situation. I see Triss, Shani, and some were it´s obvious the girl actually wants not just because he asks almost every female around or because they want to try a witcher (usually he doesn´t like that at all). Many are situations he wouldn´t want either (the wedding...WTH?).

If Yennefer returns then it will be just one, but sadly they seem more focused on Triss. Anyone who has read the 7th book: does she retracts from when she denies Yenn any help at all in book 6? That was the moment I lost any appreciation for her. If I metagamed I would look for the way to get her killed.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 05:59

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caridounette wrote...

 I gave the Witcher a go after reading you guys talking about it on the forum.

Saddly i couldnt get passed the first town. Having to timely click for him to attack wasnt interesting, but it was not that bad either ( i played worst gameplay for a good story ). Its the RP i had most problem with. Like at the really beginning, you save an inn lady from being raped by bandints. when you accompaign the lady to her house, you get 2 choices of dialog that go like this ( ill paraphrase cause my memory isnt that good) A) Dont reward me, i love to run errans for nothing B) Now how about you show me your ******.   Asking a lady for that after saving her from an assault... hummm no. :huh:

I know its probably just cause im a girl but having more options there would have been welcome. I gave the game to my boyfriend and kept playing DA. Everyone's happy.

Well, not everyone likes the game enough to stick to the end :) But thats fine, you tried, you measured by your standards and decided its not your thing. I hope you entered Wyzima and started act II, that is where the fun starts (apart from some tedious errands at swamp sightseeing)...c'mon, you know you want to observe Geralt a little longer :devil:

Addai67 wrote...
Yeah I know, but are you really going to say
no when the wench sticks her breasts in your face and says "do this
life-threatening favor for me and you will be rewarded"?  Not on a first
playthrough.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

This is interesting. I was wondering how female gamers appproach fixed male protagonist and involve him in some romance or sex situations? Do you choose so because you care, or just for kicks - you dont give a damn, might be fine either way? I understand its not so easy to identify with a male role, so whats the angle here? I know it would be forced for me to play a female char and pursue a romance with a male npc (or a female for that matter - just not my thing)

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 06:14

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Witcher is a game for goths/emos. Tried hard to be serious and mature, but turned out to be epic fail in the end thanks to combat system and other things.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 06:17

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Besides, this time around I'll romance only the willing supernatural :)

Cant decide which is Adda, hmmmm....



The books. AFAIR Triss and Yennefer sorted all out. Yen claimed Geralt as hers and other witches may only drool and tap their legs or be burned to crisps by her post-atomic nuclear rage.



Most of the sorceresses ar more than permissive, some are vulgar or seductive. Use sex as weapon, or just for pleasure at a given time. Some are sex fiends :) the depravity, its all there. With so much power and possibilities...you know some of them are really spoiled rock stars. Not all of course. You might think with their age (most of them about 100 or so - but still looking as prime/late 20s) they might be bored, but thats not so :) Geralt himself is between 60-80 years old and he doesnt mind sleeping with young women.

We apply our logic too much when it comes to imaginery world.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 07:16

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hangmans tree wrote...

This is interesting. I was wondering how female gamers appproach fixed male protagonist and involve him in some romance or sex situations? Do you choose so because you care, or just for kicks - you dont give a damn, might be fine either way? I understand its not so easy to identify with a male role, so whats the angle here? I know it would be forced for me to play a female char and pursue a romance with a male npc (or a female for that matter - just not my thing)


LOL...  all this talk reminded me of a Neverwinter Module made by a girl where the protagonist is a female character and she gains XP only by fraking everyone in the module! Can't remember the name but I guess it was "Sex and the City" or something like that.. hahaha

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 08:21

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Nerevar-as wrote...

If Yennefer returns then it will be just one, but sadly they seem more focused on Triss.

It seems TW2 assumes that Triss is the romance partner by default, even if I picked Shani. Do not like. :shakefist:

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 08:35

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Addai67 wrote...

Yeah, I think you have to be in a certain frame of mind about the sex cards. It's comic relief. Except.. Abigail's card? OMG, Geralt buddy, you obviously had potion goggles when you did her. LOL

I hope they approach the sex/ romance angle in less than junior high fashion in W2. Geralt is sexy, I believe that women would be throwing themselves at him, but a bit of conversation before or after would be nice.


Geralt oozes superhuman hormoes.
That's why women throw themselves at him. His super-pheremons drive them mad with lust.:wizard:

But yeah..some women were jsut too easy in that game. But then again, so are some in real life.

It seems TW2 assumes that Triss is the romance partner by default, even if I picked Shani. Do not like. :shakefist:


We shall see. I hope that is not the case, since I went after Shani too.
Since Geralt is a Witcher and all, and will be involved in a lot of scrapes..a healer is very welcome. He might need some..sexual healing from time to time:lol:

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 10:06

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RageGT wrote...

hangmans tree wrote...

This is interesting. I was wondering how female gamers appproach fixed male protagonist and involve him in some romance or sex situations? Do you choose so because you care, or just for kicks - you dont give a damn, might be fine either way? I understand its not so easy to identify with a male role, so whats the angle here? I know it would be forced for me to play a female char and pursue a romance with a male npc (or a female for that matter - just not my thing)


LOL...  all this talk reminded me of a Neverwinter Module made by a girl where the protagonist is a female character and she gains XP only by fraking everyone in the module! Can't remember the name but I guess it was "Sex and the City" or something like that.. hahaha

Dance with Rogues? Most XP was from using rogue skills. Besides more sex (3/4 of characters seem to think only about that) than Witcher it also had a rather good story. I got tired of reloading to avoid the main character getting raped time and again.

In games I do romances or not depending on the LI. It depends whether I like the other character as romance. Playing as female character I have no problem doing the Alistair one in DA but not Zevran, and don´t do any in ME2 for example (and only Miranda with a mShep for that matter).

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 01:04

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virumor wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

If Yennefer returns then it will be just one, but sadly they seem more focused on Triss.

It seems TW2 assumes that Triss is the romance partner by default, even if I picked Shani. Do not like. :shakefist:




No... If you picked Shani Triss will not be your's Geralt romance partner... it's related with your save from 1 game or choice which you make before start 2 one :)

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 01:13

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The hookers and floozies in TW act according to character, but there are also admirable, strong women like White Rayla, Triss and Shani. Hell, the water Nymph actually teases Geralt about his supposed 'prowess'.



But I can see why some people are not happy with the casual approach CD Projekt took with sex, and I suspect they will do much the same in TW2. If you are one who thinks sex should be considered a sacred act and nothing else, the game won't be for you.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 01:22

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heh..I must say I'm really disgusted when I see people who think's that sex/nudity in games 18+ is the greatest evil on the world and it should be censored ... people if you buy game 18+ you should know there can by topics for aduld's. End of story

By the way sex/nudity approach will be more serious in TW2 that in first game.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 03:04

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slimgrin wrote...

The hookers and floozies in TW act according to character, but there are also admirable, strong women like White Rayla, Triss and Shani. Hell, the water Nymph actually teases Geralt about his supposed 'prowess'.


White Rayla admirable? I don't see how anyone who's played the Order path could say that.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 04:27

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hangmans tree wrote...
This is interesting. I was wondering how female gamers appproach fixed male protagonist and involve him in some romance or sex situations? Do you choose so because you care, or just for kicks - you dont give a damn, might be fine either way? I understand its not so easy to identify with a male role, so whats the angle here? I know it would be forced for me to play a female char and pursue a romance with a male npc (or a female for that matter - just not my thing)

Like I said upthread, I view it as humorous.  I'll tell my husband (who can't really play because we share a PC and it's hard to have two players with different saves etc.) about the wenches I bedded.

I'm sure different women approach it differently, i.e. those who are strict roleplayers would try to figure out what situations Geralt might have a roll in the hay and act appropriately.  I don't see it as a deep roleplay type of game, so at least for a first pt I'm just amused at nailing everything that moves.

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 04:30

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wowpwnslol wrote...

Witcher is a game for goths/emos. Tried hard to be serious and mature, but turned out to be epic fail in the end thanks to combat system and other things.


Are you really that retarded to belive that... because you clrearly didn't play the game.. lol

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Posté 03 septembre 2010 - 04:33

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Damariel wrote...

heh..I must say I'm really disgusted when I see people who think's that sex/nudity in games 18+ is the greatest evil on the world and it should be censored ... people if you buy game 18+ you should know there can by topics for aduld's. End of story

By the way sex/nudity approach will be more serious in TW2 that in first game.

Oh please.  Don't try to make out complaints that sex should be more contextual/ meaningful/ story-related into a prudery argument.  I'm fine with mature content in games, but if I'm supposed to take a story seriously, I'd like to see them approached in a bit more of a mature way than TW1 does.  I do hope they follow through on plans to do so in TW2.

Even if they continue to make it a light, man-wh*re type of approach, at least show us Geralt's assets.  We get plenty of impossibly perky cleavage shots, how about something for the ladies.  Posted Image
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