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[Nerevar-as]

Just the first stages of training would cause quite an hormonal havoc in a girl and prevent normal development of female atributes. So even if they could survive the whole process a "witcheress" wouldn´t look very female.

There are plenty of sorceresses however.

[Dreadstruck]

Agreed. Female witcher is nada. And I wouldn't be really pleased if CD project would pull this out, throwing Sapkowski's books out of the window and assrape the lore.

Psst, any of you book readers recognize the guy in my avatar?

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 06 septembre 2010 - 01:43 .

[Drizzt ORierdan]

Avalla'ch wrote...

Agreed. Female witcher is nada. And I wouldn't be really pleased if CD project would pull this out, throwing Sapkowski's books out of the window and assrape the lore.

Psst, any of you book readers recognize the guy in my avatar?

Why, the books come with pictures...? lol
 
Dandelion perhaps?

[Addai]

slimgrin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

 The Witcher did break new ground for the fantasy genre, no question.

How so?  Feels like pretty normal fantasy lore to me.

It's about as far away from Tolkien as you can get.

Elves, dwarves, wizards, castles, damsels in distress and swordsmen with mysterious pasts saving the day...?

Please.

Oh, so you're just going to pick and choose what defines fantasy to arbitrarily say The Witcher is somehow unique?

Okay.

[Dreadstruck]

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

Agreed. Female witcher is nada. And I wouldn't be really pleased if CD project would pull this out, throwing Sapkowski's books out of the window and assrape the lore.

Psst, any of you book readers recognize the guy in my avatar?

Why, the books come with pictures...? lol
 
Dandelion perhaps?

Naaaah, it's the good old Cahir Mawr Dyffryn aep Ceallach guy.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 06 septembre 2010 - 04:50 .

[ErichHartmann]

Damariel wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

ironclod aleeby wrote...

For me, I just can't get behind playing as a guy. Unless the second game offers a "female" option, I guess I'll sit this one out. Too bad, too, because it really looks good.

The gender thing has never been an obstacle for me, in fact, a female Witcher sounds pretty cool.  

as long as game will match the realities with books of A. Sapkowski there will never by "female" witcher cause witchers in book have rule that only boy's can stand mutation ... soo sorry "female mode" lovers...

and before 100 of people will start crying " what about Ciri!!!" ... she didn't pass mutation soo she is not a "female" Witcher. EOS

I'm sure the nerd rage over a female Witcher would be epic.  

[Drizzt ORierdan]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Damariel wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

ironclod aleeby wrote...

For me, I just can't get behind playing as a guy. Unless the second game offers a "female" option, I guess I'll sit this one out. Too bad, too, because it really looks good.

The gender thing has never been an obstacle for me, in fact, a female Witcher sounds pretty cool.  

as long as game will match the realities with books of A. Sapkowski there will never by "female" witcher cause witchers in book have rule that only boy's can stand mutation ... soo sorry "female mode" lovers...

and before 100 of people will start crying " what about Ciri!!!" ... she didn't pass mutation soo she is not a "female" Witcher. EOS

I'm sure the nerd rage over a female Witcher would be epic.  

Im sure they could come up with smthg that wouldnt tread on Sapkowskis work. If it would be done well and not in acheap way, Id be cool with it. 

In the Polish-miniseries there was a female Witcher. (I know the series was really awful, but that element was done  OK I think). 

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Regardless, just ranting here. CDP will most probably keep male whitchers for thier games. If they try female protagonists (and I hope they will) in the future, they will come up with another story.

Modifié par Drizzt ORierdan, 06 septembre 2010 - 05:04 .

[Dreadstruck]

ErichHartmann wrote...

Damariel wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

ironclod aleeby wrote...

For me, I just can't get behind playing as a guy. Unless the second game offers a "female" option, I guess I'll sit this one out. Too bad, too, because it really looks good.

The gender thing has never been an obstacle for me, in fact, a female Witcher sounds pretty cool.  

as long as game will match the realities with books of A. Sapkowski there will never by "female" witcher cause witchers in book have rule that only boy's can stand mutation ... soo sorry "female mode" lovers...

and before 100 of people will start crying " what about Ciri!!!" ... she didn't pass mutation soo she is not a "female" Witcher. EOS

I'm sure the nerd rage over a female Witcher would be epic.  

It's not only us. The author of the series Andrzej Sapkowski raged the same way when the TV series featured this "samurai-like" bollocks AND female witchers.

I still think this lore is not worth bending over when it has been estabilished by years ago. No offense againts your ideas but this is it.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 06 septembre 2010 - 05:01 .

[Cyberfrog81]

Triss lecturing the witchers about certain... stuff, is priceless though (book, not game). Wouldn't have had that if they were used to training girls.

[Damariel]

Avalla'ch wrote...

Drizzt ORierdan wrote...

Avalla'ch wrote...

Agreed. Female witcher is nada. And I wouldn't be really pleased if CD project would pull this out, throwing Sapkowski's books out of the window and assrape the lore.

Psst, any of you book readers recognize the guy in my avatar?

Why, the books come with pictures...? lol
 
Dandelion perhaps?

Naaaah, it's the good old Cahir Mawr Dyffryn aep Ceallach guy.

heheh... I just couldn't decide between Cahir and Regis ... but yeah I see some similarity ....I've somewhere Milva picture ... but gone with disk format :/

[Dreadstruck]

Yes, Milwa. The badass women who gave quite a beating to both Cahir and Geralt, haha. Why don't we have such a girl in Dragon Age?

BTW: Avalla'ch is mentioned quite a lot in the game(and he was also some sort of an antagonist in the books?), so maybe he shows up in TW2 too?



BTW: Avalla'ch is that blonde haired elf. As for Ciri, I think it's kinda obvious.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 06 septembre 2010 - 07:40 .

[hangmans tree]

Lol, Ciri's face was really unsightly after what happened to her face...and for some reason al artwork tends to oversigh that fact...



BTW if they would introduce a female protagonist it would be a witcher trained girl (trained by them I mean). Or some mercenary legend like Słodka Trzpiotka or Black Rayla.

[Dreadstruck]

hangmans tree wrote...

Lol, Ciri's face was really unsightly after what happened to her face...and for some reason al artwork tends to oversigh that fact...

I am not quite sure what's the big deal about her scar.
All I know is, that she got it on her left cheek and Sapkowski isn't really saying she's horribly disfigured or something.

Gallahad even takes interest in her, remember?

Or some mercenary legend like Słodka Trzpiotka .

Yesh! Julia "Sweet Flibbertigibbet" Abatemarco and her 'Free Company'! My favourite female mercenary leader!
We need more girls like her.

Funny thing that , Adam "Adieu" Pangratt asks her to marry him. Despite the fact that he is already married.

Modifié par Avalla'ch, 06 septembre 2010 - 08:21 .

[Damariel]

yeah Ciri's scar ... well I think it's not reflected in her beauty... I understand so this what was written in the book.

[Damariel]

well Tom Gop in one of radio interwiew say that now CDP:Red focuses on tell a story from the perspective of Geralt... and when they finish his story... maybe... start some others games in world of A.Sapkowski... but not in TW2 that's for sure.

Aha... the interwiew is in Polish language soo I can't give you link... but if someone is interested can send me a message.

Modifié par Damariel, 06 septembre 2010 - 08:57 .

[Nerevar-as]

Damariel wrote...

well Tom Gop in one of radio interwiew say that now CDP:Red focuses on tell a story from the perspective of Geralt... and when they finish his story... maybe... start some others games in world of A.Sapkowski... but not in TW2 that's for sure.

Aha... the interwiew is in Polish language soo I can't give you link... but if someone is interested can send me a message.

No way to get a transcript in English, Spanish or even German, at least?

While female witchers are out of question, someone like Ciri is possible. She has witcher fighting styles (in fact I thought I´d like to see her when I got to the last sword levels, that death dance is just beatiful to the eye, even with all the blood) and magic talents on her own not witcher related. Of course, potions would be much more limited.

I guess it is obvious why Ciri´s scar is downplayed, but it is left quite clear on side of her face is pretty bad, despite the doctor who healed her being rather good. In "Something ends, something begins" (not canonical ending by the author) she grows her hair and combs it so that the scar is not visible at first glance. Art should go that way IMHO.

[hangmans tree]

Yep, the scar disfigures left side of her face, it was infected and pretty deep, to the bone. Vysygota (?) tried his best, but with no medical equipement, a hermit can do as much.

No potions for other than witchers. Mages use some elixirs but thats it. Too powerfull for common folk. Rest of the world rely only on steel, claws and fire...all fuled with hate. And its the way I like it personally.

[Tirigon]

slimgrin wrote...

Well, playing as Triss might be fun, but that's another game I suppose. Anyone see the TW2 video where helps Geralt against the Nekkars? I want to cast fire spells like that!

Yea. Triss is both sexy and powerful, the kind of women I like to play in a game...

[ironclod aleeby]

DarthCaine wrote...





ironclod aleeby wrote...

For me, I just can't get behind playing as a guy.

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So, you've only played like 20 games your entire life ?

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DA is my third.

[Onyx Jaguar]

You need to play Wizardry 6

[Zanderat]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

You need to play Wizardry 6

Then play 7 & 8. 

[Damariel]

Nerevar-as wrote...

Damariel wrote...

well Tom Gop in one of radio interwiew say that now CDP:Red focuses on tell a story from the perspective of Geralt... and when they finish his story... maybe... start some others games in world of A.Sapkowski... but not in TW2 that's for sure.

Aha... the interwiew is in Polish language soo I can't give you link... but if someone is interested can send me a message.

No way to get a transcript in English, Spanish or even German, at least?

While female witchers are out of question, someone like Ciri is possible. She has witcher fighting styles (in fact I thought I´d like to see her when I got to the last sword levels, that death dance is just beatiful to the eye, even with all the blood) and magic talents on her own not witcher related. Of course, potions would be much more limited.

I guess it is obvious why Ciri´s scar is downplayed, but it is left quite clear on side of her face is pretty bad, despite the doctor who healed her being rather good. In "Something ends, something begins" (not canonical ending by the author) she grows her hair and combs it so that the scar is not visible at first glance. Art should go that way IMHO.

ehhh no interwiew is made in Polish radio soo sorry but no....

Ciri?... fighting styles yes... but no magic talents... in book witcher's say that Ciri can't use any witchers sign ... about magic speel not to mention... and she never pass a magic lessons so she don't know anything important about magic .

[Stillwater]

I guess this thread has evolved a fair bit beyond the original question, but here's my 2 cents for what its worth:



The Witcher on the whole felt like it was populated by real people, moreso than DA:O. The dialogue and the writing seemed more believable, at least in the Polish version, which is the one I played. Some people were grim and broken, some were cheerful, yet almost all had a complex mix of positive and negative qualities. The fact that Geralt was voiced helped too. I'd like DA2 to take a leaf out the Witcher's book in that department.



I really liked the combat in The Witcher, though DA:O was better. The potions were awesome in the Witcher though, and introduced an interesting new dimension to combat. Some of the more interesting ones (eg. ones that slow down time) would be tricky to implement in a 4-member party context though



The Witcher had a great sense of relationship between some of the characters. Having extended conversations during the course of a party and then staggering home drunk with them really made me feel like I was getting to know them. I think this worked because these were multi-character 'scenes' that I was a part of, and not just 1-on-1 conversations like in DA:O.



I wasn't a fan of the Witcher's choice and consequence, actually. Most of the time, you had to choose between one option that was horrible, one that was awful, and one that was terrible. In the end, it all amounted to pretty much the same story, just with different people on different sides. This isn't a 'grey moral dillema', it's just being forced to pick between 3 different shades of black. I found it boring, frustrating, and actually quite linear.



Day/Night cycle - definitely a good thing.



Profanity. I don't like profanity for profanity's sake, but in a world filled with slums and dungeons, where cold-hearted men plot and backstab eachother while demonic darkspawn shoot out of the ground and rip people to shreds, the absence of any swear words just feels like bad writing.