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[andar91]

Pretty cool, though not much (okay, nothing) new at all. Still, people who aren't on these forums might not know all of that. I did enjoy further reinforcement that the PC version of the game is still the same. I don't mind the changes on the consoles and, this time, I think I'm going to end up buying both versions. I just want my PC version to retain its gameplay style.

[Grommash94]

Saibh wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

What I do think is the biggest piece of information, though, is that Laidlaw said that the narration changes based on your decisions. So that is kind of awesome. To have Varric say something in one persons game and something completely different in another.

I can't help but wonder if Varric is a companion, or at least someone you met.

I think he is; there has to be a reason Cassandra chooses to interrogate him specifically.

[Saibh]

Grommash94 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

What I do think is the biggest piece of information, though, is that Laidlaw said that the narration changes based on your decisions. So that is kind of awesome. To have Varric say something in one persons game and something completely different in another.

I can't help but wonder if Varric is a companion, or at least someone you met.

I think he is; there has to be a reason Cassandra chooses to interrogate him specifically.

I also wonder if Cassandra isn't a boss (if not the boss), and if the narration ends right before the climax does, where you proceed to fight Cassandra, and if she's asking him all these questions to get an understanding of the enemy.

Do we know the situation surrounding the two? Why she's questioning him, that is?

[Daerog]

Watching that video was a bit boring as there was no new information, as they droned on about the same things they've said before. Which is great for new people to have a single source, but it was only in the end that I knew this video would be a hit. Where he said "canon" instead of "default." It's like that one video where the guy said the enemy was "teleporting" around the battlefield instead of saying he was just moving really fast or something. Plenty of slip ups for nay-sayers, doomsayers, and haters to grab onto.

[Bryy_Miller]

Saibh wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

What I do think is the biggest piece of information, though, is that Laidlaw said that the narration changes based on your decisions. So that is kind of awesome. To have Varric say something in one persons game and something completely different in another.

I always assumed this when they started talking about the framed narrative. It didn't, however, occur to me that we might get to hear about the outcomes of said decisions, instead of waiting for the end of the game. I can't imagine we'll hear everything that will go on, but it's nice to hear whether or not someone, I don't know, survived a plague that I helped treat or something.

I can't help but wonder if Varric is a companion, or at least someone you met.

This is actually one of the things that I would want to hear about next.

[Grommash94]

Saibh wrote...

Grommash94 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

What I do think is the biggest piece of information, though, is that Laidlaw said that the narration changes based on your decisions. So that is kind of awesome. To have Varric say something in one persons game and something completely different in another.

I can't help but wonder if Varric is a companion, or at least someone you met.

I think he is; there has to be a reason Cassandra chooses to interrogate him specifically.

I also wonder if Cassandra isn't a boss (if not the boss), and if the narration ends right before the climax does, where you proceed to fight Cassandra, and if she's asking him all these questions to get an understanding of the enemy.

Do we know the situation surrounding the two? Why she's questioning him, that is?

Well, apparently, at the time of the narrating, the world is at war and the Chantry is in fragments; and somehow, Hawke had something to do with this. Cassandra wants to know why Hawke did what he did...as to why she wants to know that, I have no idea. Perhaps, as you said, she just wants to get an understanding of the enemy.

[mr will jc]

Nothing new, except that the ginger dude needs some serious triMMing >.<

[Bryy_Miller]

Grommash94 wrote...

Well, apparently, at the time of the narrating, the world is at war and the Chantry is in fragments; and somehow, Hawke had something to do with this. Cassandra wants to know why Hawke did what he did...as to why she wants to know that, I have no idea. Perhaps, as you said, she just wants to get an understanding of the enemy.

I'm wondering if Hawke, since he becomes the most important person EV4R.... you know, pulled back the curtain and showed the world the man controlling the big green face? Or even showed them the real big green face?

[Khayness]

Same funny PR phrases, nothing revolutional

Edit: May bad, BioWare has a cannon now.

Modifié par Khayness, 31 juillet 2010 - 12:18 .

[Saibh]

Khayness wrote...

Same funny PR phrases, nothing revolutional

Edit: May bad, BioWare has a cannon now.

I'm going to stick with Mike Laidlaw misusing the word and really meaning "default", not canon. Hopefully, one of the devs can jump right in and soothe us all by clearing up this lexicological problem. Or, you know, enrage us, whatever.

[Bryy_Miller]

I think it's a matter of "default" not really being a talking point for developers.

[Khayness]

Saibh wrote...

I'm going to stick with Mike Laidlaw misusing the word and really meaning "default", not canon. Hopefully, one of the devs can jump right in and soothe us all by clearing up this lexicological problem. Or, you know, enrage us, whatever.

It's probable that a canon setting will be estabilished for the new books. I don't have Mass Effect: Retribution, but I'm hearing nasty things about that.

[deathcatch-22]

Ferelden king or queen was changed and it depends on whom we picked.For example, Alistair or leaving Anora alone etc. I think it has a big importance for Ferelden. Anora might be difficult to trust as an ally for big future war which involves the Chantry. Alistair won't accept to fight against the Chantry easily.

[pitchblaq]

I'm really not certain why anyone cares that he said 'canon'. You get to play in the world as you made it, or play from an established storyline. Anything beyond that is obsessing over semantics.

[ozenglish]

Saibh wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

Free Marches = 1920s America

Fixed.

I wish they would stop reiterating themselves.

Yeah, once I finished writing down those points, I sort of read it back to myself and thought "Wow...that was a waste of my time. Everyone already knows, like, all of this."

Actually, the description of the Free Marches, is more 1530's Italy. The US never had City States with their own independent dealings with Foreign states without the Federal Govt except during the Civil War in which the South attempted continue it's domination of economic policy and negotiate with Europe for cotton and consumables trading. Technically, a city state has not existed in the US sine the Revolutionary war, which foriegn policy was taken over by the Federal Govt within the first 20 years.. In 1530's Italy, each state was it's own nation about with the population size of say, Phoenix Arizona. They were able to, for instance, Genoa, ask the King of France, to help out against another city state, that had allied itself to the King of Spain. It wasn't until the decline of Napoleonic rule in the 1820's did Italy get a King of it's own under a unified country. The last Italian state joined unification until the end of WW I.

[Saibh]

Khayness wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I'm going to stick with Mike Laidlaw misusing the word and really meaning "default", not canon. Hopefully, one of the devs can jump right in and soothe us all by clearing up this lexicological problem. Or, you know, enrage us, whatever.

It's probable that a canon setting will be estabilished for the new books. I don't have Mass Effect: Retribution, but I'm hearing nasty things about that.

We don't even know there are going to be books yet, or if there were, what content they'll include.

And what have you been hearing about Retribution? I was considering buying it...I just bought The Calling and The Stolen Throne.

[andar91]

I think people are really overreacting to the whole 'canon' thing. I don't believe that what they're saying is that it is the "real" way that it happened. Rather, they simply have a set of decisions for those who haven't played the first game. I know that a default and a canon story have different meanings, but people are getting WAY too hung up on semantics. Come on, now, we know what they mean.

[Khayness]

Saibh wrote...

And what have you been hearing about Retribution? I was considering buying it...I just bought The Calling and The Stolen Throne.

Some murmurs of discontent

[Khayness]

Kordaris has arrived, everybody to the escape pods!

[deathcatch-22]

i wonder if we fill the gap between refugee Hawke and already champion Hawke.I want to make my Hawke champion myself. Don't want to be a legend in the beginning

[Riona45]

marquiseondore wrote...

"His name is Hawke...Or Her name is Hawke.."

Good save Mike Laidlaw, Good Save

Heh, indeed.

The part about the Free Marches being very political makes my day.  Playing politics are some of the most fun parts of DA:O and DA:A in my opinion.

[andar91]

Kordaris wrote...

Saibh wrote...

[*]Because the setting is a place without a unified govenment, it's a place where Hawke can rise to power.
[*]Hawke is like a legend in his/her own time.[/list]

  They are saying that a lot, but quite honestly why should anyone care? Hawke as of know is an empty name, with no emotional meaning or attachment for Dragon Age players. There is something terribly missing in Bioware's idea, as of now there is absolutely nothing that makes Hawke interesting or being worthy of attention. Why should Dragon Age 1 players care that Hawke(excuse me but every time I write that name, it's so cheesy:unsure:) can rise to power.
At least they could connect him more with the events of previous game in some way or the situation he finds himself into. As of now he is blank page, and saying "Hawke can rise to power" doesn't stir any interest at all.

I suspect I'm wasting my time, but what the hell.  This is normal.  Of course we don't know that much about Hawke; the game was just revealed a few weeks ago.  Furthermore, how much can they really tell us about Hawke?  We play him and we control what he does and how his legend is formed.  He isn't a legend at the beginning of the game (or so I believe).

[Saibh]

Kordaris wrote...

Saibh wrote...

[*]Because the setting is a place without a unified govenment, it's a place where Hawke can rise to power.
[*]Hawke is like a legend in his/her own time.[/list]

  They are saying that a lot, but quite honestly why should anyone care? Hawke as of know is an empty name, with no emotional meaning or attachment for Dragon Age players. There is something terribly missing in Bioware's idea, as of now there is absolutely nothing that makes Hawke interesting or being worthy of attention. Why should Dragon Age 1 players care that Hawke(excuse me but every time I write that name, it's so cheesy:unsure:) can rise to power.
At least they could connect him more with the events of previous game in some way or the situation he finds himself into. As of now he is blank page, and saying "Hawke can rise to power" doesn't stir any interest at all.

Huh. You know, I seem to recall no one knowing about the Grey Warden before they played that game. Almost as if s/he didn't exist before then.

Who could have guessed?

EDIT: Also, come to think of it, aren't you complaining left and right that Hawke isn't a blank page? What's this now?

Modifié par Saibh, 31 juillet 2010 - 12:53 .