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I have to wonder what Hawke's motivation is to rise to power... If Bethany gets captured by Templars like a damsel in distress, I will smack someone. I will.


I don't want her to be a damsel in distress, either.  It's bad enough that this character (a grown woman and a mage) is already constantly infantilized by forumites even though we know almost nothing about her.

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altough s/he is not a legend but s/he is the champion of Kirkwall in the beginning right?

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I think people are really overreacting to the whole 'canon' thing. I don't believe that what they're saying is that it is the "real" way that it happened. Rather, they simply have a set of decisions for those who haven't played the first game. I know that a default and a canon story have different meanings, but people are getting WAY too hung up on semantics. Come on, now, we know what they mean.


You know, I like thinking of myself as a reasonable, giving person, and, to me? The word makes a big difference. It makes a big difference to a lot of people. It's the difference between being told your decisions aren't the correct ones and your decisions being slight adjustments to the settings bar, you see.

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Meh...enough with the bloated PR speak- PC gameplay please....


As for the canon comment- he meant "default" as canon implies its the same for everyone. Although I'd bet the default for a new player not importing from Origins is Alistair King, Morrigan did the DR.....

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Saibh wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Saibh wrote...

[*]Because the setting is a place without a unified govenment, it's a place where Hawke can rise to power.
[*]Hawke is like a legend in his/her own time.[/list]

  They are saying that a lot, but quite honestly why should anyone care? Hawke as of know is an empty name, with no emotional meaning or attachment for Dragon Age players. There is something terribly missing in Bioware's idea, as of now there is absolutely nothing that makes Hawke interesting or being worthy of attention. Why should Dragon Age 1 players care that Hawke(excuse me but every time I write that name, it's so cheesy:unsure:) can rise to power.
At least they could connect him more with the events of previous game in some way or the situation he finds himself into. As of now he is blank page, and saying "Hawke can rise to power" doesn't stir any interest at all.


Huh. You know, I seem to recall no one knowing about the Grey Warden before they played that game. Almost as if s/he didn't exist before then.

Who could have guessed?

EDIT: Also, come to think of it, aren't you complaining left and right that Hawke isn't a blank page? What's this now?


Kordaris doesn't need logic for his arguments, nor consistency in them, pfft. Its Kordaris.

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Ferelden king or queen was changed and it depends on whom we picked.For example, Alistair or leaving Anora alone etc. I think it has a big importance for Ferelden. Anora might be difficult to trust as an ally for big future war which involves the Chantry. Alistair won't accept to fight against the Chantry easily.


I would think that would depend what side they'd be on (which isn't certain) and what side YOU'D be on.

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Grommash94 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Kordaris wrote...

Saibh wrote...

[*]Because the setting is a place without a unified govenment, it's a place where Hawke can rise to power.
[*]Hawke is like a legend in his/her own time.[/list]

  They are saying that a lot, but quite honestly why should anyone care? Hawke as of know is an empty name, with no emotional meaning or attachment for Dragon Age players. There is something terribly missing in Bioware's idea, as of now there is absolutely nothing that makes Hawke interesting or being worthy of attention. Why should Dragon Age 1 players care that Hawke(excuse me but every time I write that name, it's so cheesy:unsure:) can rise to power.
At least they could connect him more with the events of previous game in some way or the situation he finds himself into. As of now he is blank page, and saying "Hawke can rise to power" doesn't stir any interest at all.


Huh. You know, I seem to recall no one knowing about the Grey Warden before they played that game. Almost as if s/he didn't exist before then.

Who could have guessed?

EDIT: Also, come to think of it, aren't you complaining left and right that Hawke isn't a blank page? What's this now?


Kordaris doesn't need logic for his arguments, nor consistency in them, pfft. Its Kordaris.

Shhh!!! Don't talk to it!!! It might bite!!! :alien:

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Saibh wrote...

[*]Huh. You know, I seem to recall no one knowing about the Grey Warden before they played that game. Almost as if s/he didn't exist before then.




I seem to recall that Dragon Age 1 wasn't a sequel.

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 Interesting.. I'm really curious how we will see Origins in Dragon Age 2. Ha, most of this is known, but it's a good refresher! When I hear that they want to make the classes alot more defined I feel hopeful.. That was a major thing I didn't like about Origins, but it will be difficult to do.
Because of the lack of government Hawke can rise.. To what I wonder? Will the Hero of Kirkwall rule over an area? I would like to see Hawke govern atleast something.
Oh, question. I didn't play Awakening.. :huh: So will I miss much from Dragon Age 2? I mean was there some epic story I didn't get? Summarize for me anyone? 

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Kordaris wrote...

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[*]Huh. You know, I seem to recall no one knowing about the Grey Warden before they played that game. Almost as if s/he didn't exist before then.




I seem to recall that Dragon Age 1 wasn't a sequel.


But whatever happened to the love of blank slates? :innocent:

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Riona45 wrote...

deathcatch-22 wrote...

Ferelden king or queen was changed and it depends on whom we picked.For example, Alistair or leaving Anora alone etc. I think it has a big importance for Ferelden. Anora might be difficult to trust as an ally for big future war which involves the Chantry. Alistair won't accept to fight against the Chantry easily.


I would think that would depend what side they'd be on (which isn't certain) and what side YOU'D be on.



assassination to Alistair by Anora would be shocking though! :P

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Brockololly wrote...


As for the canon comment- he meant "default" as canon implies its the same for everyone. Although I'd bet the default for a new player not importing from Origins is Alistair King, Morrigan did the DR.....


Right, we know what he meant.  However, it will not be clear for people who aren't as in the know as we are.

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deathcatch-22 wrote...

assassination to Alistair by Anora would be shocking though! :P


Well, that would only be possible (whether it's likely or not) if Alistair is king, which he might not be.

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Riona45 wrote...

deathcatch-22 wrote...

assassination to Alistair by Anora would be shocking though! :P


Well, that would only be possible (whether it's likely or not) if Alistair is king, which he might not be.


Right...just thinking ^_^

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Kordaris wrote...

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[*]Huh. You know, I seem to recall no one knowing about the Grey Warden before they played that game. Almost as if s/he didn't exist before then.




I seem to recall that Dragon Age 1 wasn't a sequel.


The point is that you were not emotionally attached to the Warden until you played DA:O.  Therefore, not being emotionally attached to the protagonist of this unreleased title is not the black mark on the character that you are trying to make it out to be.

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Oh, BioWare Forums. How I love thee. Still treating Kordaris like he's worth a reply.

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Jeez, you'd think people had started worshipping the Warden as the Maker himself from the way people carry on about the whole new character thing. Don't get me wrong--I love my Warden, but I think my only character who deserves that kind of adulation was my Bhaalspawn. Who was...the child of a god of murder. And kind of a big f-ing deal.



The interview made me feel a lot better about DA2, particularly keeping the tactical combat for PC and getting to see Thedas how my Warden shaped it. As for the use of the word canon, it did bother me. But on a 1 to 10 scale of bother-dom, it registered at about a 2.

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Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Jeez, you'd think people had started worshipping the Warden as the Maker himself from the way people carry on about the whole new character thing. Don't get me wrong--I love my Warden, but I think my only character who deserves that kind of adulation was my Bhaalspawn. Who was...the child of a god of murder. And kind of a big f-ing deal.


I really need to show you the comic forums where people more than imply that reading comics will kickstart the next phase of human evolution.

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The part about the Free Marches being very political makes my day.  Playing politics are some of the most fun parts of DA:O and DA:A in my opinion.


Agreed. It's interesting to see how the more influence and power you gain, the more significantly your choices affect people.

Still wish I was playing in the first and not third person, but I suppose that ship has sailed.

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phaonica wrote...

Riona45 wrote...

The part about the Free Marches being very political makes my day.  Playing politics are some of the most fun parts of DA:O and DA:A in my opinion.


Agreed. It's interesting to see how the more influence and power you gain, the more significantly your choices affect people.

Still wish I was playing in the first and not third person, but I suppose that ship has sailed.


I'm going to coin the phrase: 'Dragon Age: Awakening 2',

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Saibh wrote...

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I think people are really overreacting to the whole 'canon' thing. I don't believe that what they're saying is that it is the "real" way that it happened. Rather, they simply have a set of decisions for those who haven't played the first game. I know that a default and a canon story have different meanings, but people are getting WAY too hung up on semantics. Come on, now, we know what they mean.


You know, I like thinking of myself as a reasonable, giving person, and, to me? The word makes a big difference. It makes a big difference to a lot of people. It's the difference between being told your decisions aren't the correct ones and your decisions being slight adjustments to the settings bar, you see.

Posted ImagePosted ImageI've seen many of your posts on the forums and I would agree that you are reasonable and giving.  All I meant was that people are arguing over what he said in the interview when we know (unless I've missed something) they've said that there's a default set of choices if you don't import your information, but our decisions do carry over into DA2.  I really don't think Bioware is saying (with established choices for the default OR even if they establish a canon) that anyone made the wrong choices.  Nevertheless, they have to have a sort of canon for lore and books (if they do them) or the whole story would just fall apart.  At least I think so.

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Saibh wrote...

Huh. You know, I seem to recall no one knowing about the Grey Warden before they played that game. Almost as if s/he didn't exist before then.


Yeah, I'm with you on this one. If Origins was marketed as "Become the Hero of Ferelden!" I imagine people might have been complaining "Why should I care about what happens in Ferelden?"

I do think it's interesting that it's specifically said in the interview that there is no king-like figure in the Free Marches and therefore someone like Hawke could "rise to power" there. I wonder if they're meaning in a heroic sense, or in a conquering sense.

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Please just ignore him. Please.

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Super excited!

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Jeez, you'd think people had started worshipping the Warden as the Maker himself from the way people carry on about the whole new character thing. Don't get me wrong--I love my Warden, but I think my only character who deserves that kind of adulation was my Bhaalspawn. Who was...the child of a god of murder. And kind of a big f-ing deal.


I really need to show you the comic forums where people more than imply that reading comics will kickstart the next phase of human evolution.


*snigger*  Ah, yes.  Natural selection favors the behavioral phenotypes associated with and necessary for reading comics.  I love and hate the Internet :P