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[Bobad]

mis-post

Modifié par Bobad, 01 août 2010 - 01:15 .

[Riona45]

Arl Howe was also commonly referred to by his surname.

[Riona45]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...
It's really impossible to play a Bioware game and not come out with a powerful character.  Having a name that matches it somewhat doesn't bug me.  

Heh, that's a great point.  Being gentle at heart doesn't mean you won't still wind up as a bad-ass.

PS:  What's funny about this is that a certain poster on this board keeps telling us how lame he thinks the name Hawke is, how it's not the name of a hero, etc.  The OP of this thread seems to have the opposite problem, thinking the name implies a forceful personality. 

Modifié par Riona45, 01 août 2010 - 01:44 .

[GodWood]

I normally turn to norse mythology when it comes to naming my human and dwarf characters eg, Víðarr Cousland and Dvergath Brosca.
So my problem with the last name Hawke is that nothing seems to fit with it without sounding like some cyber punk trash

Modifié par GodWood, 01 août 2010 - 02:38 .

[Vicious]

o my problem with the last name Hawke is that nothing seems to fit with it without sounding like some cyber punk trash

Why you use norse mythology to name a human character who comes out of the equivilant of England is beyond sense, anyway.

[GodWood]

Vicious wrote...

o my problem with the last name Hawke is that nothing seems to fit with it without sounding like some cyber punk trash

Why you use norse mythology to name a human character who comes out of the equivilant of England is beyond sense, anyway.

Because a generic english name sounds like ****, besides a lot of the DA:O characters had their names taken from other cultures within Europe.

[xolors]

I'm pretty sure that they have a big rotating wheel that has a bunch of names on it.



Bioware employee *throws dart rotating wheel* so its hawke? alright we are done with names.



100% sure that is how it works!

[Saibh]

Riona45 wrote...

Befit wrote...

Because this is a story where people's names aren't arbitrarily assighned. Each name fit's the character look at Morrigan, that's the name of a shape-shifting goddess of Irish folklore

I thought David Gaider was on the record as saying that that was actually a coincidence, even if the name is fitting.

Completely off-topic, but when I was looking around to see who Morrigan was named for, I found this. MySims Morrigan.

[Riona45]

That's super cute!

[deathcatch-22]

@Saibh thanks!how adorable!

[Saibh]

And...MySims Commander Shepard! Wow. Anyone else think Alistair's would be way cuter?

EDIT: Fixed the link.

Modifié par Saibh, 01 août 2010 - 04:55 .

[Blessed Silence]

Silverweave wrote...

This is a question directed at the writers I suppose. Sparking a discussion works as well

I'm really interested in the process of how the ultra-important names in BioWare's universes are handled by the team. Hawke and Shepard are of course the prime examples. Shepard apparently has taken on this almost otherworldly aura of awesomness, and the same will most likely happen with Hawke, seeing how prominently he/she's been talked about.

I really wonder how long does it take, how many people are involved, how many iterations might this name go through and what is being taken into account when figuring out these immensely important names.

Thoughts?

PS. What do you guys/gals think about "Hawke" anyways? I gotta say it works when imagining the vanilla Bioware hero (hunky guy with a shady beard and a big sword/gun) but wouldn't fit that well to a gentle mild-mannered female mage.

I would guess it takes the amount of time for the writers as it does for me trying to come up with a name .. including banging my head on teh desk and a gazillion broken pencil points.  You want one that fits the character you have in mind and that sounds .. I dunno ... easy to say.

Shepard just has that ring no matter who says it, even when angry or not, it just sounds awesome.

Hawke ... hm ... to me it's more of a nickname than an actual name like Shepard.

Modifié par Blessed Silence, 01 août 2010 - 04:07 .

[deathcatch-22]

maybe we should be thankful that they didn't pick a surname like "Williams", "Smith", "Johnson", "Miller" or "Taylor". still don't like the name Hawke!

[Riona45]

Saibh wrote...

And...MySims Commander Shepard! Wow. Anyone else think Alistair's would be way cuter?

The link didn't work for me, but I looked it up and it is cute.

[Saibh]

Blessed Silence wrote...

Silverweave wrote...

This is a question directed at the writers I suppose. Sparking a discussion works as well

I'm really interested in the process of how the ultra-important names in BioWare's universes are handled by the team. Hawke and Shepard are of course the prime examples. Shepard apparently has taken on this almost otherworldly aura of awesomness, and the same will most likely happen with Hawke, seeing how prominently he/she's been talked about.

I really wonder how long does it take, how many people are involved, how many iterations might this name go through and what is being taken into account when figuring out these immensely important names.

Thoughts?

PS. What do you guys/gals think about "Hawke" anyways? I gotta say it works when imagining the vanilla Bioware hero (hunky guy with a shady beard and a big sword/gun) but wouldn't fit that well to a gentle mild-mannered female mage.

I would guess it takes the amount of time for the writers as it does for me trying to come up with a name .. including banging my head on teh desk and a gazillion broken pencil points.  You want one that fits the character you have in mind and that sounds .. I dunno ... easy to say.

Shepard just has that ring no matter who says it, even when angry or not, it just sounds awesome.

Hawke ... hm ... to me it's more of a sickname than an actual name like Shepard.

I've never really liked Shepard. It just doesn't sound like a name you can call someone, unless you're a drill sergeant. It's especially obnoxious when love interests call you that. I don't know, it's a name I've gotten used to, but when I first heard it, it never sat right with me.

I think Hawke's going to be the same sort of case. It's just because we've never really listened to it in context. Hear it enough, and I think we'll get used it.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Saibh wrote...

Blessed Silence wrote...

Silverweave wrote...

This is a question directed at the writers I suppose. Sparking a discussion works as well

I'm really interested in the process of how the ultra-important names in BioWare's universes are handled by the team. Hawke and Shepard are of course the prime examples. Shepard apparently has taken on this almost otherworldly aura of awesomness, and the same will most likely happen with Hawke, seeing how prominently he/she's been talked about.

I really wonder how long does it take, how many people are involved, how many iterations might this name go through and what is being taken into account when figuring out these immensely important names.

Thoughts?

PS. What do you guys/gals think about "Hawke" anyways? I gotta say it works when imagining the vanilla Bioware hero (hunky guy with a shady beard and a big sword/gun) but wouldn't fit that well to a gentle mild-mannered female mage.

I would guess it takes the amount of time for the writers as it does for me trying to come up with a name .. including banging my head on teh desk and a gazillion broken pencil points.  You want one that fits the character you have in mind and that sounds .. I dunno ... easy to say.

Shepard just has that ring no matter who says it, even when angry or not, it just sounds awesome.

Hawke ... hm ... to me it's more of a sickname than an actual name like Shepard.

I've never really liked Shepard. It just doesn't sound like a name you can call someone, unless you're a drill sergeant. It's especially obnoxious when love interests call you that. I don't know, it's a name I've gotten used to, but when I first heard it, it never sat right with me.

I think Hawke's going to be the same sort of case. It's just because we've never really listened to it in context. Hear it enough, and I think we'll get used it.

Stuck with it, unfortunately. If Bioware ever tried making characters that had set first names for the purpose of story, people would go totally ballistic. Hell would freeze over, stores would get looted, it would surely be the end.

[mildmort]

For me original setting have not looked perfect from the screen shots, but that was screen shots. Things might be different.

Besides, I couldn't see the other way.

[mildmort]

I am sorry, for it resulted this way.

[Befit]

Too me it seems like the other humans get really cool last names such as Mac Tir, Therin, Teagan, Cousland. Hawke just dosn't compare. but then again i always liked elven names better. and yes we did have forced surnames but if u weren't a cousland or aeducan how often were u called by it?

[AlexXIV]

angrySCORCH62 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

term8 wrote...

deathcatch-22 wrote...

 Hawke-the name- will be used only by whom Hawke is very close to.the others use "human", "mage" etc

This is a little off-topic... but then again not really bah... this statement causes me some concern....

I have a great deal of faith in bioware writers, and sure hope that your friends don't straght up call you Hawke... example:

"I think i'm in love with you Hawke" sounds ridiculous.... something like a coy "I think i may be in love Mr. Hawke" would be loads better (if they must say hawke)

In summary, I hope they says things like "Mr. Hawke or Ms. Hawke" and not just address you as Hawke. (I am concered about this because IMO shepard is used like a first name in ME and ME2, this bothers me a little.... but makes sense cause of modern military protacol)

To the best of my recollection, people in Ferelden don't use titles like Mister or Ms.  They might use "my lady" for a female, being polite, or "ser" for people of either gender who warrant some kind of title or respect.  They obviously use nobles' titles: Arl Eamon, Bann Teagan, Prince Bhelen Aeducan, etc.

Arl Eamon's wife called Bann Teagan by his surname, so we know that it has happened back then.

You realize though, that Bann is a title and Teagan a first name?

[AllThatJazz]

 See, I already like the name Hawke more than I liked Shepard before ME came out (LOVE my Shepard now, of course), because the hawk is my favourite bird. Strong, fast, and quiet, it's also one of the most intelligent avians out there. Hawks are beautiful, violent, obviously predatory, but many also have regal connections - falcons (which in North America at least are encompassed by the term 'hawk') and other birds of prey have been used by royalty and aristocracy throughout history as semi-domesticated hunting birds - the sport of falconry is still quite popular, I think.

There was a book written in the Middle Ages called the 'boke of St Albans' - here's the link to the wiki entry on falconry which mentions the book, if anyone is interested  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falconry, in which the various types of Hawk were categorised according to their suitability to be used by people of differing social ranks. Which I know doesn't have anything to do with the topic, but which I think is wonderful anyway.

So I guess that's why I like the name - the description of the bird includes so many different attributes that I can quite happily see myself making almost any type of character (except soft and fluffy, maybe , though hey! feathers are soft and fluffy!) and the name will still suit. x

Sorry, once again, for rambling xx

Modifié par AllThatJazz, 01 août 2010 - 11:23 .

[Befit]

AlexXIV wrote...

angrySCORCH62 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

term8 wrote...

deathcatch-22 wrote...

 Hawke-the name- will be used only by whom Hawke is very close to.the others use "human", "mage" etc

This is a little off-topic... but then again not really bah... this statement causes me some concern....

I have a great deal of faith in bioware writers, and sure hope that your friends don't straght up call you Hawke... example:

"I think i'm in love with you Hawke" sounds ridiculous.... something like a coy "I think i may be in love Mr. Hawke" would be loads better (if they must say hawke)

In summary, I hope they says things like "Mr. Hawke or Ms. Hawke" and not just address you as Hawke. (I am concered about this because IMO shepard is used like a first name in ME and ME2, this bothers me a little.... but makes sense cause of modern military protacol)

To the best of my recollection, people in Ferelden don't use titles like Mister or Ms.  They might use "my lady" for a female, being polite, or "ser" for people of either gender who warrant some kind of title or respect.  They obviously use nobles' titles: Arl Eamon, Bann Teagan, Prince Bhelen Aeducan, etc.

Arl Eamon's wife called Bann Teagan by his surname, so we know that it has happened back then.

You realize though, that Bann is a title and Teagan a first name?

True, i forgot his last name is guerrin (which is better than Hawke) I think they use first names when someone's family is there as well. look at maric, alistair, and cailan. But if there isn't they use last names suchs as howe

[wicked_being]

Befit wrote...

Too me it seems like the other humans get really cool last names such as Mac Tir, Therin, Teagan, Cousland. Hawke just dosn't compare. but then again i always liked elven names better. and yes we did have forced surnames but if u weren't a cousland or aeducan how often were u called by it?

Teagan's a name, his last name is Guerrin I agree, the other human names are cool and then we get...Hawke. Even Silas Corthwaite's name is way cooler than Hawke.