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[Corker]

If I get a chance tonight, I'll line everybody up and take a screencap; if he were next to Anders and Nathaniel, that would be useful, right? I don't have Velanna for an elf side-by-side, unfortunately.

I suppose it could be a trick of the camera angles, but I got a strong and immediate impression that he was shorter than me. That doesn't happen often to me IRL and I notice it when it does.

Edited to add: All righty!  Is he or isn't he?

Modifié par Corker, 30 août 2010 - 10:30 .

[Eudaemonium]

That is definitely smaller than the HM model.

[Giggles_Manically]

When my Male Dalish was beside him they were the same height.

That makes him an elf male them.

[Zjarcal]

It also looks like Anders' shoulders are above his. The armor makes him look bulkier and bigger but it really does look like an elf male body.

[tmp7704]

Keep on mind the ground in game isn't entirely flat, and it's very easy for a character to be placed few centimeters higher/below someone standing right next to them.

regarding the guy's race, you could probably test it by overriding medium elf male armour model with something different. If he gets affected by it and there's visible change in the game to his appearance then it's elf, otherwise it's human. That said, it looks like human model to me,

edit: checked it out of curiosity and a change to elf armour doesn't affect the guy. He also definitely seems human sized next to my CE and Nathaniel:

Modifié par tmp7704, 30 août 2010 - 11:58 .

[Addai]

I have to go with human on this one.



They're all looking at my PC's ass, you just know it.

[Zjarcal]

Looks like it. So much for the epic noble hunting elf...

[Liliandra Nadiar]

Well, with Addai's screenie, I'd say they're hunting a noble elf there.

[Avilia]

United in a common cause ;-)

Did the Wolf's VO sound familiar to anyone else? I haven't checked but I started getting wild "its Garavel" theories. But you can kill him can't you? So maybe not...

Modifié par Avilia, 31 août 2010 - 03:56 .

[Corker]

Oh, boo. I thought it was so terribly clever for them to use an elf in the "commoner seeking vengeance against the nobility" thing, too. Well played, Ser Wolf, using the terrain to fool me.

[mousestalker]

The Theirins are definitely attracted to short women with pointy ears.

[Wulfram]

I'd guess Human males can sleep with as many elves as they want as long as they don't start thinking about marrying them.  Women maybe similar, as long as no embarassingly pointy eared children turn up.

Alienage elves in relationships with humans can probably expected to be shunned and pretty much forced to give up the relationship or leave

[Corker]

At a guess... relations, yes; relationships, not so much.

[Addai]

dream_operator23 wrote...

So what do you all think? Are interracial human/elf relationships in Thedas common or not?

Define "relationship."  It seems that humans, men especially, find elven women attractive.  So the books and the game seem to show a lot of exploitative type arrangements.  But I imagine the social pressure against marriages would be strong on both the elven and human side.  I'm not sure we have a single example of "I'm Joe Human and this is my elven wife, and we're very happy thank you"??  Soris is the only one that comes to mind, and we see how difficult that was for him.  He also was ostracized beforehand for different reasons, so he's on the outs sort of like the PC is.

[Addai]

The PC is already a rare bird in other ways, and pulled out of their home environment, so it's not a stretch that they would be a boundary-crosser in the area of relationships. My favorite pairing is Alsitair-EF, so I agree with you there. OTOH it felt weird to picture my HNF with Zevran. They were very close, but for some reason I felt the "sexual harrassment" vibe more with him, maybe because the Warden has spared his life so he's already indebted.

[Sandtigress]

dream_operator23 wrote...

I mean mutual relationships, nothing exploitative or rape. I think the game makes it pretty obvious that nasty stuff like that happens a lot.

I personally like mixed race couples in the game better, so if I want to romance Zevran I make a female human and if I want to romance one of the girls, I make a male elf. Yet when I play my elves I get impression that being in an equal relationship with a human is pretty darn rare, like I am charting undiscovered territory or something. ^^

I suspect it happens more than people expect, illicit things like Maric and Fiona, for instance.  I also suspect it gets covered up a lot and hidden behind closed doors and amongst all the darker stuff that goes on.  Like a nobleman might claim an elf is just a pet while having deeper feelings (not to say that more exploitave stuff is not more common in general).

I think an openly equal relationship like what might happen with a PC is very rare, Soris being the only other known example other than Fiona and Maric/Katriel and Maric.

[Sarah1281]

mousestalker wrote...

The Theirins are definitely attracted to short women with pointy ears.

Do we really have any examples of this besides Maric? Alistair is equally as attracted to elves as he is to humans and dwarves so I think he's really more of a Warden fetish kind of guy.

Edit: About human/elf relations...I don't like them. I'm not trying to tell anybody who they can or cannot sleep with, it's just that the whole elf+human=human thing bothers me and seems like it could be a problem in the future.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 31 août 2010 - 05:41 .

[mousestalker]

I have less problem with a Warden elf relationship with someone else than with such otherwise. A Gray Warden is basically outside the gene pool at that point and is also outside the usual societal roles. Of course that may be all rationalisation for the fact that every last Tabris and Surana (but one) I have wind up falling for Anders.

[Addai]

The Theirin fondness for elves is sort of fanon because of Maric's apparent predilection. His boys are so much like him in other ways, etc. There is Alistair's comment "especially because of that" (if you ask him if he wants to sleep with you as elf or dwarf) but I don't take that too seriously. Obviously, I like the idea that he's an elf man.



Nathaniel apparently is, too. I wonder why I like those two so much? It's a mystery! LOL

[mousestalker]

dream_operator23 wrote...

I totally understand this position and it is obviously a valid point as to why an elf would want to stick with other elves, but I like the idea of lovers that though society might not think that they are well suited for each other defy all for their relationship. I really like the way Soris ends up for example. There is probably a lot of societal pressure on both sides not to have such an interracial relationship though. The real life situation that seems the most similar to me off the top of my head is the slavery era of the Deep South and how many interracial couples were there in such an environment? Probably very few and the ones that were would have to be covered up.

There were actually quite a few, including the ever dreaded white woman with black man. In the book 'To Kill a Mockingbird' Harper Lee has a fair amount to say on the subject.

Modifié par mousestalker, 31 août 2010 - 08:46 .

[Giggles_Manically]

Well the elf love got to me:
Elf Mage with Alistair
Dalish and City Elf with Leliana
Human Mage with Zevran.

What can I say, I like underdogs and making racists pop a vein!
If I can do both, well thats even better.

Modifié par Giggles_Manically, 31 août 2010 - 08:39 .

[Sarah1281]

I suppose another thing about it that bothers me is that I consider elves, humans, dwarves, and qunari to be different species instead of just different races.