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[Aeowyn]

Well it was just a guess because I've always been a bit baffled to why the bonding between DE's parents wasn't approved of.

[Saelihnne]

It is a mystery. One of the reasons I love the Dalish origin is that so much is left to the player's imagination. It could very well be that at that time two clans were butting heads so to speak. Nothing is documented so I tend to think perhaps something darker and mysterious may be at the root.



The mother of the DE wanders off into the moonlight and disappears. This has always intrigued me as to why she would do that and lends an air of the mysterious to the character. Was it that her grief was so deep? Or something else.



I need coffee, My mind wanders to some strange places without it.

[Sandtigress]

Aeowyn wrote...

Well it was just a guess because I've always been a bit baffled to why the bonding between DE's parents wasn't approved of.

I actually suspect they weren't officially bonded - not if bonding is a ceremony done with the clan.  They were meeting in secret because of her clan, so I wonder if their union was ever official.  Then she was pregnant - the whole thing might have been a bit illicit, which might be one of the reasons why her clan disapproved.  I don't think the Dalish are prudes about it, just very bound by tradition (duh) - look at Cammen's outright surprise when you ask if he and Gheyna have ever kissed, or if he's even given her a present.  Dalish courtship seems to be much different than your typical Westernish mind-set.

[Merilsell]

Saelihnne wrote...

It is a mystery. One of the reasons I love the Dalish origin is that so much is left to the player's imagination. It could very well be that at that time two clans were butting heads so to speak. Nothing is documented so I tend to think perhaps something darker and mysterious may be at the root.

I love it for that reason too. It gave me the opportunity to craft a character I never have played this way before. Before Lenya I was always a happy goody shoes, moralistic, dutiful and nice character in every game i played. Then my Dalish came along out of nothing, slapped me right in the face and screamed "SCREW THE RULES! I HAVE MY OWN!" A really delightful experience I can tell. Since then I love my odd, impulsive Dalish cookie and never looked back.

As for the DE mommy and daddy clan thing, I always thought that the both clans didn't stand on good terms to each other. Sure they are one folk, but I'm sure there were also clans which couldn't stand each other. Probably a rivalry thing about territory, lore findings or whatnot. Like in Romeo and Juliet just without the violence to each other. Maybe Mommy was already promised or gave her promise to another man within her clan and then fell head over heels for the keeper daddy? And her keeper didn't like that? Maybe even one of her clan has tipped the bandits off where the keeper daddy would be? Oh, the possibilities. Okay now my imagination runs wild (not to mention that I actually write a companionship piece to 'Of elves and humans' as I type this. Damn my plot bunny. The tale of Lenya's parents, as I see it. It will get mentioned in my main story later on as well, but of course my Dalish doesn't know the whole story, so yeah.)

The mother of the DE wanders off into the moonlight and disappears. This
has always intrigued me as to why she would do that and lends an air of
the mysterious to the character. Was it that her grief was so deep? Or
something else..

I always pictured it that she couldn't live without him in the long term, because ....I dunno for dramatic romantic measures? He was the one for her and as he was gone there was nothing that kept her alive anymore, even not their child. It also weaves a bridge to my Mahariel/Alistair relationship but going deeper in the why's would spoil too much from my actual story. So yeah I think she had done this because of a broken heart ....not because she ditched her child in the Fiona style. Well tbh partly she has done this as well.That's the reason Lenya thinks her mother was stupid and hates her for that.

Modifié par Merilsell, 02 octobre 2010 - 07:46 .

[RavenousBear]

My CEF's recent  rampage through the estate. Vaughan and his goons decided to use their fists rather than their weapons against my elf. Brilliant!






Man, I do love taking screenshots :happy:


Oh, I cannot forget the Guard Captain:



Although it was not my first run through this origin, for some reason it was a lot more fun than my previous runs.

[Giggles_Manically]

Two Handed elf lady is epic!



Nothing quite like doing that I have to admit.

I have done everything else in the game, but leaving Shiani is one thing I cant do.

[yasuraka.hakkyou]

Saelihnne wrote...

It is a mystery. One of the reasons I love the Dalish origin is that so much is left to the player's imagination. It could very well be that at that time two clans were butting heads so to speak. Nothing is documented so I tend to think perhaps something darker and mysterious may be at the root.

The mother of the DE wanders off into the moonlight and disappears. This has always intrigued me as to why she would do that and lends an air of the mysterious to the character. Was it that her grief was so deep? Or something else.

Exactly the same for me. CE isn't bad, but I just connect more with my Dalish characters.

[Remmirath]

Those are some nice screen shots. I especially like the beheading one! 


Narvinyel, my latest elf. She's an arcane warrior, and likely to become a blood mage once she hits 14th level.

I do like the freedom of the mage and Dalish origins, but yet for some reason I still like the city elf origin more. I'm not sure why. Perhaps simply because it was the first one I played, and my favourite character yet was a city elf? Or perhaps there's something else about it that I just haven't put my finger on.

[RavenousBear]

Halae Dral wrote...

Those are some nice screen shots. I especially like the beheading one! 


Narvinyel, my latest elf. She's an arcane warrior, and likely to become a blood mage once she hits 14th level.

I do like the freedom of the mage and Dalish origins, but yet for some reason I still like the city elf origin more. I'm not sure why. Perhaps simply because it was the first one I played, and my favourite character yet was a city elf? Or perhaps there's something else about it that I just haven't put my finger on.

Thanks, the only way to finish that origin is with a beheading of that bastard.

Hmm, does your AW elf  have a craving for coffee?

I like the CE origin because I am like playing as the underdog who becomes a zero to a hero in a couple of years. Not too many games I have played offer that role for the main character. Plus, since being someone unfamiliar with medieval fantasy games, I knew little about magic and elves in general.

[RavenousBear]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I have done everything else in the game, but leaving Shiani is one thing I cant do.

You can say that again; it is one of the worst things you can do in this game IMO.

[Remmirath]

Caak7i wrote...
Thanks, the only way to finish that origin is with a beheading of that bastard.

Hmm, does your AW elf  have a craving for coffee?

I like the CE origin because I am like playing as the underdog who becomes a zero to a hero in a couple of years. Not too many games I have played offer that role for the main character. Plus, since being someone unfamiliar with medieval fantasy games, I knew little about magic and elves in general.

Heh, yeah, she probably is constantly wanting... whatever coffee-equivalent Ferelden might have. She's sort of the paranoid 'can't sleep! Get everything done now or they'll kill me while I sleep!' type. She ended up with a permanent sort of odd staring expression which brought that about.

I definitely agree on the beheading Vaughan score. And I think your explanation about the city elf origin is probably part of why I like it. It's somehow much more satisfying to me for the city elf to be saving Ferelden than for the human noble, for instance, who that's almost expected of.

[Hyper Cutter]

Too true. Do most people complete the Cammen-Gheyna quest or do they just say 'no'?

The best ending to that quest is banging Gheyna and then telling Cammen about it. Hopefully the forest ate him.

[mousestalker]

I just realized that all my favourite origins are the oppressed. Dwarf Commoner, City Elf and Mage (especially elven mage) are my favourites. DC and CE are just fun from the beginning whereas the mage origin is not the best, but mages are great fun to play. I just finished revisiting the Human Noble and it's too stereotypical. The Dwarf Noble origin is very well written but the warden's family is a horror. With DC, Mom is a drunk but Rica is great. City elf, you have a great family.

It may be the red hair but I can never disappoint Shianni or Rica.

Modifié par mousestalker, 10 octobre 2010 - 06:00 .

[Addai]

mousestalker wrote...

It may be the red hair but I can never disappoint Shianni or Rica.

LOL  This is a great line.  And people talk about the power of The Beard...  they're totally missing the power of The Red!

[Sarah1281]

It may be the red hair but I can never disappoint Shianni or Rica.

I agree about Shianni but Rica...she is really nasty about the DN.

Shianni is only a little rude to non-elves and she is also under a lot of pressure and makes sure to apologize once you help her.

[mousestalker]

My first complete dwarven playthrough was dwarf commoner. Rica really shines in that origin.



@Sarah1281, your origin confused warden definitely applies to my last warden. She was a human noble Cousland. I was rather hurt that Shianni was a bit blunt when we first ran into her. It a while for me to remember that Felicia was human.

[Sarah1281]

mousestalker wrote...

My first complete dwarven playthrough was dwarf commoner. Rica really shines in that origin.

@Sarah1281, your origin confused warden definitely applies to my last warden. She was a human noble Cousland. I was rather hurt that Shianni was a bit blunt when we first ran into her. It a while for me to remember that Felicia was human.

I played DC after having already fallen in love with the DN origin and the following exchange:

PC: What if Bhelen did kill his brother?
Rica: You don't understand what nobles are like. They fight for power like rats over bread. (VO: Trying to persuade someone passionately)
Rica: His brothers hated him. They, and Lord Harrowmont, would do anything to bring him down. But he wouldn't stoop to that level. (VO: Defending someone passionately)
Rica: He knows the most important thing to the ancestors is family loyalty. I hope you know that, too.

really seems to imply that if Bhelen did do it, certain favorite characters of mine would have deserved it for the high crime of...being noble. Given the hell she has to deal with for the misfortune of having a casteless mother, you'd think she wouldn't be so judgemental.

And my initial origin-confusion was when I played the DC and kept forgetting that I was, in fact, playing a DC until people in Orzammar kept pointing it out.

Shianni...that girl might not be the most polite person around but anyone who can decide to be on friendly terms with someone who walked away and let her get raped for the money just because they saved Cyrion and the others is really hard to dislike. I mean, Cyrion's all 'You're not welcome here' and Shianni up and forgives you! Just reading those lines in the toolset made me feel guilty for something I didn't even do! 

[Cypher0020]

squeeee I love elves! Totally torn between making my CE a rogue or a dw warrior....

[Saelihnne]

I never had that exchange about the rabbit stew with Shianni, well yet anyway. My last CE died in a glorious, and icky fight. The CE origin is indeed sad, but I find myself impassioned to decapitate the bastard who goes there. It is a beautiful storyline and yeah Shianni is scary in the good way. =)

[Sarah1281]

Saelihnne wrote...

I never had that exchange about the rabbit stew with Shianni, well yet anyway. My last CE died in a glorious, and icky fight. The CE origin is indeed sad, but I find myself impassioned to decapitate the bastard who goes there. It is a beautiful storyline and yeah Shianni is scary in the good way. =)

It's right after freeing/sacrificing the elves so even if you do the US you can still get the conversation.

[Saelihnne]

Oh okay, thanks Sarah1281. =) This is good info.
Is it me or is FF being a pill? My chapter is nerfed....

Modifié par Saelihnne, 11 octobre 2010 - 03:50 .

[Remmirath]

The rats make sense when you think about it. I mean, you don't see any rabbits around (and it would probably be at least somewhat expensive to buy them), but there are rats. Giant rats. It is a sad statement on things, though.

[mousestalker]

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