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[Anarya]

TheMadCat wrote...

Well I made that response right there because rhauthanen felt that because we don't want to say thank you our personalities are calloused and hardened and he felt for sorry for us and those around us. Truth be told I don't care if you want to thank them, give them your life savings, or strip yourself down and throw yourself at their feet to fulfil sexual fantasies, as you say to each their own.

But I felt there was a bit of a need to clarify any misunderstanding that those of us don't feel BioWare deserves a thank you isn't because we're heartless bastards, in reality for myself it's quite the opposite as I feel those words for be reserved for those who truly deserve it and not for a business doing what a business does. If you and any others want to thank them feel free, just don't assume those who don't do so because we also yell at little kids to get off our lawns and shout bah humbug at Christmas.

I don't feel the need to thank them, as you may or may not have noticed from the conspicuous absence of a thank you from me in this thread. I will however defend other people's right to do it if they want to.

Making me out to be a pathetic sycophant while claiming not to be a jerk isn't helping your case much, either. Just an aside.

I mean, really, "stripping myself down and throwing myself at their feet to fulfill sexual fantasies"? Come on.

[Dynamomark]

What's such a big problem with "thank you"? It doesn't cost anything, and it encourages (although not as much as money) the company to do even better with new products.

[AlanC9]

Depends on what you're thanking them for. I'll thank them for doing a good job when I think they've done one.

[TheMadCat]

Anarya wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Well I made that response right there because rhauthanen felt that because we don't want to say thank you our personalities are calloused and hardened and he felt for sorry for us and those around us. Truth be told I don't care if you want to thank them, give them your life savings, or strip yourself down and throw yourself at their feet to fulfil sexual fantasies, as you say to each their own.

But I felt there was a bit of a need to clarify any misunderstanding that those of us don't feel BioWare deserves a thank you isn't because we're heartless bastards, in reality for myself it's quite the opposite as I feel those words for be reserved for those who truly deserve it and not for a business doing what a business does. If you and any others want to thank them feel free, just don't assume those who don't do so because we also yell at little kids to get off our lawns and shout bah humbug at Christmas.

I don't feel the need to thank them, as you may or may not have noticed from the conspicuous absence of a thank you from me in this thread. I will however defend other people's right to do it if they want to.

Making me out to be a pathetic sycophant while claiming not to be a jerk isn't helping your case much, either. Just an aside.

I mean, really, "stripping myself down and throwing myself at their feet to fulfill sexual fantasies"? Come on.

Er, right I see you didn't understand the jest there in my post nor did you actually understand the post itself so I'll simplify.

Rhautanen assumed those of us who don't want to say thank you do so because our "personalities are hardened and he feels sorry for us and those around us." I clairfied in the post you initally quoted why myself and a few others feel they don't warrant a thank you for simply putting out a product to sell. I never claimed people can't say thank you to BioWare, I simply gave a reason why some don't.

Not sure how you managed to assume I was mocking you or calling you a pathetic sycophant. I used a pair of  extreme examples to get my point across that I really don't care what people do, people are free to do whatever you want. And in my second paragraph I pointed out not to assume anything negative because people don't share in your thankfullness of BioWare. Really, how did you pick up any insult in that post, like you said come on. 

What's such a big problem with "thank you"? It doesn't cost anything,
and it encourages (although not as much as money) the company to do even
better with new products.

No business is in it for the thank you's I can promise you that. <_<

Modifié par TheMadCat, 01 août 2010 - 07:32 .

[Games4ever]

There is many on the Android market I would like to thank for all the free apps.



These people are the true heroes :-)

[Grommash94]

Erm..'thinks of something'...



Thanks BioWare for making a great game, with interesting lore.

[Yalision]

Ah man, seriously guys? If you don't agree with what I have to say then just don't say anything. I made this thread because too many developers make claims of DLC plans that they fail to follow through on.

If you aren't happy with the quality of DLC or the something else there are plenty of other threads to post your dissatisfaction. If this keeps up the point of this thread will be lost =/ and a lock would be appreciated.

[_- Songlian -]

Yes, I am glad for the DLCs. No, I'm not happy with paying for them. But I guess such is life (via Zevran).



If they make more, I'll buy more. I suppose that's all that counts.

[TheMadCat]

Yalision wrote...

Ah man, seriously guys? If you don't agree with what I have to say then just don't say anything. I made this thread because too many developers make claims of DLC plans that they fail to follow through on.
If you aren't happy with the quality of DLC or the something else there are plenty of other threads to post your dissatisfaction. If this keeps up the point of this thread will be lost =/ and a lock would be appreciated.

But, but, but where will we souless monsters go to rain on some fanboys parade, I suppose we could always return to Master Presietly but, well, , he's scary... (By the way, this comment was a joke please do not take it seriously, seems I'll have to label all jestful and sarcastic remarks from now on.)

Being serious now, you have to expect any thread you start to be dissected and nitpicked, that's simply forum life don't let it bother you, everyone has to do something while lurking these dark corridors.

Out of curioisty though what developers haven't followed through on DLC plans, most who proclaim they'll make some DLC typically make a couple even though it may not be as much as planned due to poor sales or an inability to secure financing.

[Anarya]

nevermind

Modifié par Anarya, 01 août 2010 - 08:04 .

[Pedrak]

Well, call me weird but I see nothing strange in thanking people for doing their job well, even if they do it because they're paid for it and not because they are philanthropists.

On a personal note, my medical conditions are such that, at the moment, I simply cannot enjoy a normal life, and I have to spend most of my day in bed or sitting at my desk. DAO has provided me with hours of entertainment, and I'm glad and thankful for that; even if of course BioWare wasn't doing me a favour, their creative and brilliant work made my hours less miserable in the last months. So did several musicians, writers, directors... even if, after all, they were just doing their job. The fact is, their job meant something to me.

Modifié par Pedrak, 01 août 2010 - 08:56 .

[Yalision]

I'm very glad people are voicing their opinions. I just don't see why its worth the effort to criticize the idea of thanking a developer for a job well done. The opinions of people for thanking a company will differ, I understand, but I'm not thanking a "company" as if its a single entity as the evil bank or factory that pumps out soulless products for us.



I'm thanking the individuals, minds, and talents behind the DLC and the fact that, in my opinion, the quality is awesome. They could just as easily pump out useless crap to make a quick buck, or hell, they could just not follow through on their plans which is why I made this post in the first place - because they have. Whether or not you'll agree with me that the DLC is great is entirely up to you.



I love Dragon Age and I'm glad I have more to play and that talented writers are behind that continued effort, writers who I don't know personally so I thank "Bioware" - which is not like a grocery store, where someone wrote as I recall. It's not #@$ kissing to appreciate something, what am I going to get for writing this? Flames I knew for sure, but jeez, I just can't make sense of comparing Bioware to companies who are legitimatly soulless and out to make a quick buck off gamers.



Look at 85% of the crap on the Wii. THOSE are the companies I would link to a lot of the statements detracting this thread. Bioware makes good games and could easily use its reputation to make a quick back (which I guess some one will argue that they have for the hell of it anyway) off of us. But in my opinion they don't, because they don't have to give us anything quite frankly. Dragon Age 2 is on the way and everyone is busy picking it apart for the latest details and they could shift all momentum to that alone. I'm glad to have more stuff to play, and yes I'm thanking Bioware for a job well done and not being one of those companies that creates crap to further flood the market with.

[Querne]

Thank you for DA:O, a great game inspired by Tolkien, GRRM and some other fantastic books.



Thank you for DA2, inspired by comsumption patterns.

I know, it will have a dozen of ME parts and every magazine compares these parts to ME and the change from 1 to 2 (one of our two biggest PC magazines has a picture of Sheppard with a Warden Shield in it), but of course I believe YOU when you say it will be not like ME at all, but only IMPROVED.



Thank you for telling the guys here, still posting after the last game and already posting before the new one comes out, that you make games like you make them and we are not forced to buy them.



Thank you for telling us, that we are only few thousands here and don´t really count because the masses out there are just waiting to grab the packages out of the shelves.



Thank you for simplifying and shortening the next game and explaining us, that it will make the game better (likewise thankfully to the fans who believe it).



That´s enough thankfulness at the moment, I think.

[Rapidiul]

Bioware have my thanks, for coming up with this great game, easily the best game I've ever played. Don't mind the haters, keep doing your job, because you are doing it great. I am going to buy DA2, and I hope it will be as great as DA:O.

[Alexia89]

Bioware started off pretty bad at DLC....but there becoming the best at it around maybe only Rockstar give more.

Modifié par Alexia89, 02 août 2010 - 08:27 .

[DaringMoosejaw]

Ashr4m wrote...

Rapidiul wrote...

Bioware have my thanks, for coming up with this great game, easily the best game I've ever played. Don't mind the haters, keep doing your job, because you are doing it great. I am going to buy DA2, and I hope it will be as great as DA:O.

Thats the "consume zombie" thing i was talking about. I will buy the game if it will be good (right now i only decide if im interested in the game), you will buy the game whithout any second thought, thats frightening.

And yes, i dont like people like you, since you are the reason why the gaming industry is going downhill. If consumers would behave normal companies couldnt afford to release buggy games (At least a thing Bioware is doing right) or just release crappy games with "big names".

And in general, i dont compare bioware to random companies, i compare bioware to the standard of bioware. And by that benchmark bioware nowadays got worse.

Bioware for me was one of those companies that stood out.

Maybe they buy the games because...they like them?

[derkaderka-]

thank bioware for creative game development.
blame ea (and capitalism) for the game industry marketing trends.
don't blame/hate/guilt trip... on gamers for liking a game.

Modifié par derkaderka-, 02 août 2010 - 08:51 .

[Nic-V]

[DaringMoosejaw]

derkaderka- wrote...

thank bioware for creative game development.
blame ea (and capitalism) for the game industry marketing trends.
don't blame consumers for not boycotting a business model that can't be boycotted.

Here we go. Yes, boo capitalism! If it weren't for capitalism, we could have REAL fun like toiling our lives away in fields, dying of malnourishment and thanking a picture of some douchebag with a Napolean Complex and terrible hair for every good thing that ever happened to us.

[Super ._. Shepard]

Bioware is the best i love all their games

[derkaderka-]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

derkaderka- wrote...

thank bioware for creative game development.
blame ea (and capitalism) for the game industry marketing trends.
don't blame consumers for not boycotting a business model that can't be boycotted.

Here we go. Yes, boo capitalism! If it weren't for capitalism, we could have REAL fun like toiling our lives away in fields, dying of malnourishment and thanking a picture of some douchebag with a Napolean Complex and terrible hair for every good thing that ever happened to us.

capitalism =/= 4th of july. capitalism is a dirty word. it doesn't mean freedom, unless youre talking freedom for big business to throw money at government and control congress with it. it is yet to be determined which is better, living under tyranny, or living under the thumbs of the top 2% untouchable richest most powerful connected elite on earth. they lobby deregulation, they run our congress, they get away with murder, start wars for profit, and bleed hundreds of millions of people dry of their paychecks with increased cost of living, and spend more than we make on brainwashing us into thinking patriotism and capitalism are one in the same..


back on topic: video game publishers are the ones chasing profits in this industry. theyre tired of gamestop getting such a massive profit on reselling used games making hand over fist by reselling the same game a dozen times over the course of a year, and the publisher gets nada.