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captain.subtle wrote...

1) Do they have currency?
2) Do they have Gold/Diamond/Silver-Mines?
3) Do they have a Religion? Qun does not sound like a religion. It sounds like a Philosohpy. I woud like to define the fine line between the two by saying that Religion is Dogmatic.


1. Not exactly, no. "Merchants" in qunari cities have the job of making sure goods are distributed appropriately. Qunari don't buy and sell things amongst one another.

2. To some degree, they do. Those materials all have uses beyond the decorative.

3. The Qun is both a philosphy and a religion by your definition. It is a philosophy, but it shapes every level and aspect of their civilization and their daily lives. It's hard not to find it incontrivertible when it forms the foundation of your life and has done so since before you were born.

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captain.subtle wrote...

2) Do they have Gold/Diamond/Silver-Mines?


Mary just confirmed Qunari wear Old Spice. Of course they have diamonds.

captain.subtle wrote...
3) Do they have a Religion? Qun does not sound like a religion. It sounds like a Philosohpy. I woud like to define the fine line between the two by saying that Religion is Dogmatic.

Have you listened to Sten talk about the Qun? It's extremely dogmatic. From what's been revealed of the Qun, it sounds like a militant non-deistic cult.

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Modifié par Johnny Jaded, 02 août 2010 - 07:48 .


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Mary Kirby wrote...

1. Not exactly, no. "Merchants" in qunari cities have the job of making sure goods are distributed appropriately. Qunari don't buy and sell things amongst one another.


So... They engage in Bartering?

2. To some degree, they do. Those materials all have uses beyond the decorative.


What other uses than decoration will Gold and Silver have? (Diamond is defensible as it is sharp-cutting tool material)

3. The Qun is both a philosphy and a religion by your definition. It is a philosophy, but it shapes every level and aspect of their civilization and their daily lives. It's hard not to find it incontrivertible when it forms the foundation of your life and has done so since before you were born.


I understand that I can not obtain specific answers. But I find it intresting to know if they have any rituals at all..

ANd... Thanks! You are Great!!  :wub:

Modifié par captain.subtle, 02 août 2010 - 07:49 .


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captain.subtle wrote...

So... They engage in Bartering?


Yes and no. Not every qunari has a role that produces something tangible. If the role you've been assigned is "astronomer" what do you trade?

What other uses than decoration will Gold and Silver have? (Diamond is defensible as it is sharp-cutting tool)


Crafting medical tools, magical tools, scientific research...

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If those born into the Qun are assigned a duty at birth and trained in that, how are converts assigned a duty - are they asked a bunch of questions by a career assessment officer or something?

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I have some questions:

1. Will all Qunari in DA2 have hornes?
2. What makes some Qunari have brown skin and some blue skin?
3. Are there other skintypes of Qunari?
4. Can Humans and Qunari make little baby Qunari?
5. Are there no female Qunari warriors? Sten said something about finding it strange to se female warriors.

I think thats it for now. I hope someone can tell me this. :)

Modifié par Johnny Shepard, 02 août 2010 - 08:04 .


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Mary Kirby wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

So... They engage in Bartering?


Yes and no. Not every qunari has a role that produces something tangible. If the role you've been assigned is "astronomer" what do you trade?

What other uses than decoration will Gold and Silver have? (Diamond is defensible as it is sharp-cutting tool)


Crafting medical tools, magical tools, scientific research...


Brrr.. Qunari... are actually.. Inhuman! They follow the way of the Open Palm to the letter!

What kind of people, try NOT to change their position (I know, I asked that question to Sten...)?

Do they not want more food, more  beer, bigger houses and more clothes?(except the Tal-vashoth)?

I can understand a Dogmatic philosophy as a concept. But I don't understand how you can implement it without a powerful conditioning OR total..... innate conformity which the Qunari display.....

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Johnny Shepard wrote...

I have some questions:

1. Will all Qunari in DA2 have hornes?
2. What makes some Qunari have brown skin and some blue skin?
3. Are there other skintypes of Qunari?
4. Can Humans and Qunari make little baby Qunari?
5. Are there no female Qunari warriors? Sten said something about finding it strange to se female warriors.

I think thats it for now. I hope someone can tell med this. :)


1. They already have said not all qunari have horns.
2. ...I haven't seen a single blue-skinned qunari.
3. I think they already said there are qunari that don't have bronze skin like Sten's.
4. Oh god, the pain.

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Saibh wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

I have some questions:

1. Will all Qunari in DA2 have hornes?
2. What makes some Qunari have brown skin and some blue skin?
3. Are there other skintypes of Qunari?
4. Can Humans and Qunari make little baby Qunari?
5. Are there no female Qunari warriors? Sten said something about finding it strange to se female warriors.

I think thats it for now. I hope someone can tell med this. :)


1. They already have said not all qunari have horns.
2. ...I haven't seen a single blue-skinned qunari.
3. I think they already said there are qunari that don't have bronze skin like Sten's.
4. Oh god, the pain.

1. I havent heard them say that there will be hornless Qunari in DA2.
2.  You must have missed it.
3. Yes, but Im wondering if there are more then just the Bronze and Blue ones.
4. Indeed.

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captain.subtle wrote...

Brrr.. Qunari... are actually.. Inhuman! They follow the way of the Open Palm to the letter!

What kind of people, try NOT to change their position (I know, I asked that question to Sten...)?

Do they not want more food, more  beer, bigger houses and more clothes?(except the Tal-vashoth)?

I can understand a Dogmatic philosophy as a concept. But I don't understand how you can implement it without a powerful conditioning OR total..... innate conformity which the Qunari display.....


You know, I get the distinct impression that the Qunari are, in fact, something other than human...

The Qunari view of things is: If you are unhappy being who and what you are, then changing your job won't help. You are fundamentally in conflict with yourself.  Or you are in conflict with reality. That's not something a career change will fix.

They do want more food and more beer. They actively work to improve methods of production. They research better ways to make the things they use. They adopt superior methods from conquered people and neighboring cultures. But they don't own the houses or the clothes, and having more just means more work to maintain them. Qunari love efficiency.

It does take powerful conditioning to adopt the "Everything is done for the good of the society and not for the individual" mentality. There's a reason why, for the most part, Qunari convert people to the Qun by conquering them, dismantling their society, separating their families, and raising all their children as Qunari.

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Johnny Shepard wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

I have some questions:

1. Will all Qunari in DA2 have hornes?
2. What makes some Qunari have brown skin and some blue skin?
3. Are there other skintypes of Qunari?
4. Can Humans and Qunari make little baby Qunari?
5. Are there no female Qunari warriors? Sten said something about finding it strange to se female warriors.

I think thats it for now. I hope someone can tell med this. :)


1. They already have said not all qunari have horns.
2. ...I haven't seen a single blue-skinned qunari.
3. I think they already said there are qunari that don't have bronze skin like Sten's.
4. Oh god, the pain.

1. I havent heard them say that there will be hornless Qunari in DA2.
2.  You must have missed it.
3. Yes, but Im wondering if there are more then just the Bronze and Blue ones.
4. Indeed.


1. I don't think they've confirmed whether or not there will be one specific hornless qunari, but I don't think they'd answer that question. They exist, though.
2. Yeah, he doesn't have blue skin. He has maybe white paint on, maybe white skin (did we ever get confirmation on whether or not he's wearing white paint?), but that's not blue, certainly.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

You know, I get the distinct impression that the Qunari are, in fact, something other than human...

The Qunari view of things is: If you are unhappy being who and what you are, then changing your job won't help. You are fundamentally in conflict with yourself.  Or you are in conflict with reality. That's not something a career change will fix.

They do want more food and more beer. They actively work to improve methods of production. They research better ways to make the things they use. They adopt superior methods from conquered people and neighboring cultures. But they don't own the houses or the clothes, and having more just means more work to maintain them. Qunari love efficiency.

It does take powerful conditioning to adopt the "Everything is done for the good of the society and not for the individual" mentality. There's a reason why, for the most part, Qunari convert people to the Qun by conquering them, dismantling their society, separating their families, and raising all their children as Qunari.


I come from... Dresden, which was in East Germany .... so I kind of understand... But that does not feel right to me.... (It actually sends shivers up my spine...)

EDIT: Can I know your personal opinion on the matter, meaning you feel if its right or wrong, irrespective of the Qunari?

Modifié par captain.subtle, 02 août 2010 - 08:30 .


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There's a Qunari mercenary duelist that fights you when you are ambushed by Marjolaine's mercs. So yes, they can be rogues.

as big as a  qunari is I do not see them as the sneaking around guys

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captain.subtle wrote...

I come from... Dresden, which was in East Germany .... so I kind of understand... But that does not feel right to me.... (It actually sends shivers up my spine...)

EDIT: Can I know your personal opinion on the matter, meaning you feel if its right or wrong, irrespective of the Qunari?



Personally, I view the Qunari as a negative utopia. Totalitarianism is too high a price to pay for anything. Even an end to poverty and economic class discrimination.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

Personally, I view the Qunari as a negative utopia. Totalitarianism is too high a price to pay for anything. Even an end to poverty and economic class discrimination.


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Qunari remind me of social insects.



So like....ants who are also SAMURAI. With horns and unusual mating habits.

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i just wonder if qunari have horns and only realy special ones dont why do they make infantry helms without big horn holes

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Anarya wrote...

Qunari remind me of social insects.

So like....ants who are also SAMURAI. With horns and unusual mating habits.


hmmmmm, rather communistic insects.... the samurai thing is right too, but i dont think that there were much samurai with a specialization on growing plants....^^

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iTomes wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Qunari remind me of social insects.

So like....ants who are also SAMURAI. With horns and unusual mating habits.


hmmmmm, rather communistic insects.... the samurai thing is right too, but i dont think that there were much samurai with a specialization on growing plants....^^


Well the social insects are pretty much all communist by definition. In fact they are probably the only real communists on the planet.

The samurai thing is more about the warriors I guess. Sten's attitude towards painting is basically the same as a samurai's towards ikebana (flower arranging).

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Saibh wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Johnny Shepard wrote...

I have some questions:

1. Will all Qunari in DA2 have hornes?
2. What makes some Qunari have brown skin and some blue skin?
3. Are there other skintypes of Qunari?
4. Can Humans and Qunari make little baby Qunari?
5. Are there no female Qunari warriors? Sten said something about finding it strange to se female warriors.

I think thats it for now. I hope someone can tell med this. :)


1. They already have said not all qunari have horns.
2. ...I haven't seen a single blue-skinned qunari.
3. I think they already said there are qunari that don't have bronze skin like Sten's.
4. Oh god, the pain.

1. I havent heard them say that there will be hornless Qunari in DA2.
2.  You must have missed it.
3. Yes, but Im wondering if there are more then just the Bronze and Blue ones.
4. Indeed.


1. I don't think they've confirmed whether or not there will be one specific hornless qunari, but I don't think they'd answer that question. They exist, though.
2. Yeah, he doesn't have blue skin. He has maybe white paint on, maybe white skin (did we ever get confirmation on whether or not he's wearing white paint?), but that's not blue, certainly.

1. Yes, I know they exist. Maybe Mary will tell us.^_^
2. They look blue to me.

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1. All qunari have a tool that signifies their role in qunari society. For soldiers, those tools are always weapons. Weavers and farmers and doctors don't rely on swords quite so much.

2. Do you mean the class? Or unsavory thiefy-types? Nobody gets the job of "Pickpocket" in the Qun. Some qunari are bred for speed and stealth, though.

3. Total spoiler. Not sayin'.

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Anarya wrote...

iTomes wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Qunari remind me of social insects.

So like....ants who are also SAMURAI. With horns and unusual mating habits.


hmmmmm, rather communistic insects.... the samurai thing is right too, but i dont think that there were much samurai with a specialization on growing plants....^^


Well the social insects are pretty much all communist by definition. In fact they are probably the only real communists on the planet.

The samurai thing is more about the warriors I guess. Sten's attitude towards painting is basically the same as a samurai's towards ikebana (flower arranging).


Forget not Bonsai...

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Anarya wrote...

iTomes wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Qunari remind me of social insects.

So like....ants who are also SAMURAI. With horns and unusual mating habits.


hmmmmm, rather communistic insects.... the samurai thing is right too, but i dont think that there were much samurai with a specialization on growing plants....^^


Well the social insects are pretty much all communist by definition. In fact they are probably the only real communists on the planet.

The samurai thing is more about the warriors I guess. Sten's attitude towards painting is basically the same as a samurai's towards ikebana (flower arranging).


well i guess the qunari are just some kind of "all systems that kill human individuality" at once mix. or, lets just face it, if the qunari dont invade us, well invade the qunari to end this madness. fantasy cold war gone hot style :).

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captain.subtle wrote...

Anarya wrote...

iTomes wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Qunari remind me of social insects.

So like....ants who are also SAMURAI. With horns and unusual mating habits.


hmmmmm, rather communistic insects.... the samurai thing is right too, but i dont think that there were much samurai with a specialization on growing plants....^^


Well the social insects are pretty much all communist by definition. In fact they are probably the only real communists on the planet.

The samurai thing is more about the warriors I guess. Sten's attitude towards painting is basically the same as a samurai's towards ikebana (flower arranging).


Forget not Bonsai...


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iTomes wrote...

Anarya wrote...

iTomes wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Qunari remind me of social insects.

So like....ants who are also SAMURAI. With horns and unusual mating habits.


hmmmmm, rather communistic insects.... the samurai thing is right too, but i dont think that there were much samurai with a specialization on growing plants....^^


Well the social insects are pretty much all communist by definition. In fact they are probably the only real communists on the planet.

The samurai thing is more about the warriors I guess. Sten's attitude towards painting is basically the same as a samurai's towards ikebana (flower arranging).


well i guess the qunari are just some kind of "all systems that kill human individuality" at once mix. or, lets just face it, if the qunari dont invade us, well invade the qunari to end this madness. fantasy cold war gone hot style :).



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