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Anarya wrote...

Sooo what you're saying is, we may have already romanced Sten and not even known it! :wizard:

But seriously, interesting. All your answers in this thread are making Sten's dialogue lines suddenly make perfect sense.


Well....

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I like pestering Mary about the lack of a Sten romance. She keeps telling me it's already in there.



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Herr Uhl wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Sooo what you're saying is, we may have already romanced Sten and not even known it! :wizard:

But seriously, interesting. All your answers in this thread are making Sten's dialogue lines suddenly make perfect sense.


Well....

Sheryl Chee wrote...

I like pestering Mary about the lack of a Sten romance. She keeps telling me it's already in there.



LOL! I missed that thread, I guess.

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Anarya wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Sooo what you're saying is, we may have already romanced Sten and not even known it! :wizard:

But seriously, interesting. All your answers in this thread are making Sten's dialogue lines suddenly make perfect sense.


Well....

Sheryl Chee wrote...

I like pestering Mary about the lack of a Sten romance. She keeps telling me it's already in there.



LOL! I missed that thread, I guess.


It was posted 7 months ago, so I don't blame you =]

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Very interesting discussion.



It will be interesting to see this society and their clash with other societies unfold in the future.



Will a Qunari warrior hear our Bard play music an realize he loved and has an aptitude for music? Will they be shocked that someone can fight for and defend their homeland, yet also be a scholar or sculpture.



If a Qunari goes back home after picking up a bad habit like strumming a lute or carving little ivory figurines, will he be considered an outcast or lawbreaker.



I guess I am saying, how regimented are they, can a Qunari warrior even have a hobby without being consider some social deviant or threat to their structure.

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I get the feeling people might want to mod one of the romanceable characters into a Qunari. :P

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Kileyan wrote...

Very interesting discussion.

It will be interesting to see this society and their clash with other societies unfold in the future.

Will a Qunari warrior hear our Bard play music an realize he loved and has an aptitude for music? Will they be shocked that someone can fight for and defend their homeland, yet also be a scholar or sculpture.

If a Qunari goes back home after picking up a bad habit like strumming a lute or carving little ivory figurines, will he be considered an outcast or lawbreaker.

I guess I am saying, how regimented are they, can a Qunari warrior even have a hobby without being consider some social deviant or threat to their structure.


They have singers.

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Kileyan wrote...

It will be interesting to see this society and their clash with other societies unfold in the future.

Well, they've been clashing for about 300 years by the time DAO takes place.

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Kileyan wrote...

Very interesting discussion.

It will be interesting to see this society and their clash with other societies unfold in the future.

Will a Qunari warrior hear our Bard play music an realize he loved and has an aptitude for music? Will they be shocked that someone can fight for and defend their homeland, yet also be a scholar or sculpture.

If a Qunari goes back home after picking up a bad habit like strumming a lute or carving little ivory figurines, will he be considered an outcast or lawbreaker.

I guess I am saying, how regimented are they, can a Qunari warrior even have a hobby without being consider some social deviant or threat to their structure.

I'm pretty sure that Qunari culture has factors such as music, sculpting, and whatnot. One would probably find their aptitude for such things early enough to factor it into their aptitude assessment. As for brand new things, I think stout-hearted followers of the Qun would simply alert the appropriate people of such things. For example, Sten really liked the concept of cookies; that doesn't neccessarily mean that he wants to become a cookie baker. He'd more likely gather information on the subject and share the concept with Qunari bakers.

Modifié par Kimarous, 03 août 2010 - 12:43 .


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Mary thank you for answering our questions. These type of threads are very enlightening.

Modifié par attend, 03 août 2010 - 12:52 .


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thanks for some answer.

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Herr Uhl wrote...


They have singers.


Of course they do.

What I meant was our bard also swings a sword or shoots a bow. Will some of the Qunari pick up extra skills or hobbies like sculpting. How are they percieved back home. Would a Qunari warrior who learned how to cook tasty cookies because he likes them, be considered a failture or abomination because anything he does, that is not in the pursuit of his assigned role is considered a failure? Is it even worse, is he breaking a major taboo by stepping on the toes of the bakers union? :)

More or less, just curious how far this fanatical pursuit of a single role in society is taken, how rigid it really is.

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I would like to help the qunari take over tevinter and all of its slaves now.

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Nope. No family units. They don't marry or choose partners. Qunari do not even know to whom they are related. A Qunari's "family" are his or her coworkers. Which is why Sten calls the men he served with his brothers.


Sounds kinda like "Brave New World". Scary...

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I've always been confused on this point: are the Qunari as considered by Sten a culture or a race? My impression has always been that they were a culture more than they were a race, but the impression I have on this forum is that they are considered more a race that a culture.

Put another way, my impression was that they were a melting pot of conquered cultures (and races) forced into a people. Is this true?

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In Exile wrote...

I've always been confused on this point: are the Qunari as considered by Sten a culture or a race? My impression has always been that they were a culture more than they were a race, but the impression I have on this forum is that they are considered more a race that a culture.
Put another way, my impression was that they were a melting pot of conquered cultures (and races) forced into a people. Is this true?


I've never had that impression of the conquered races (at least prior to coming to Thedas) as they have no communication with where they came from.

To Sten Qunari is follower of the Qun at least, not a race.

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In Exile wrote...

I've always been confused on this point: are the Qunari as considered by Sten a culture or a race? My impression has always been that they were a culture more than they were a race, but the impression I have on this forum is that they are considered more a race that a culture.
Put another way, my impression was that they were a melting pot of conquered cultures (and races) forced into a people. Is this true?


I never really got that impression. They may have conquered a lot of their own homelands, that were of the same race. But I never got the feeling they were a total melting pot, especially in light of the new release of info on their revamped looks.

Qunari don't seem to be just a different stock of humans with skin tones and size that was influenced by their climate or such. They seem like an entirely different race of peoples, maybe not even able to breed with the races of Feradlen.

edited: In retrospect, I guess I can see what you mean. Even if they couldn't interbreed with new conquered cultures, would they invite them into their culture and/or force them into it. Or would they just kill anyone that couldn't breed with them and improve their stock. Would the be Qun human or evles, or would their just be dead humans and elves, while the race from across the ocean took over the new lands.

Modifié par Kileyan, 03 août 2010 - 02:51 .


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In Exile wrote...

I've always been confused on this point: are the Qunari as considered by Sten a culture or a race?


I asked Mary this question the other day:

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One thing I've been curious about is whether the Qunari race have a separate name. "Qunari" seems to denote one who follows the Qun rather than the actual race as those who have abandoned it are known as Tal'Vashoth. It's seems somewhat like saying "I'm Christian" rather than "I'm human".
Originally, I saw parallels to the term "Jewish" - interchangeable between the race and the religion - but Armass is offended at being called a Qunari so I'm not sure if that's an accurate comparison.

Is there a separate term for the race of bronze-skinned giants regardless of their religious belief?


They had a separate name before the spread of the Qun. But the name is only remembered by Qunari historians. Qunari ascribe equal worth to everyone who follows the Qun, so they would find it strange to make distinctions between the giants who are Qunari, and the little pointy-eared people who are Qunari and those equally short round-eared Qunari. The differences only matter to the Tamassrans anyway.

Qunari and Tal'Vashoth view one another as roughly people-shaped objects, and not as a different culture or religious group. Each thinks the other is an abomination, and using any word that implies that they might belong to the same species would be highly offensive to both of them.


Modifié par Johnny Jaded, 03 août 2010 - 02:52 .


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OMG MORE LORE OM NOM NOM

thank you so much for all your answers!! <3

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i was wondering this if true

anders say Qunari mage are put on leash

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Maybe I am making incorrect assunptions but that would give the Tamassrans an incredible amount of influence. They choose the pairings, handle the upbring and education, and determine the roles of the next generation.


They might not see it the same way, but yes-- the Tamassrans wield a huge amount of influence. It's also a female gender role (as all administrative tasks are) which might lead an outsider to conclude that female qunari rule their society. Qunari don't, however, look on ruleship quite the same way. The brain could be said to rule the body... but so does the heart, the lungs, the stomach. They are part of the whole.

What happens if a large majority of the creche does not provide candidates for a much needed role. Would they be forced to accept a life/role they were not meant for? For example say healers.


If it was a task within the confines of that gender, yes. Even then a qunari might do it if the need was great enough-- though they would feel a task belonging to another gender beneath them. A male qunari will farm, if he must, just as a female qunari will fight. They won't like it, however.

What about the mages? Are they among those defeated or do the Qunari have their own?


They have their own mages. The saarebas (from the word "bas" or "thing/object) are considered defective tools-- but the qunari don't waste those, either.

Modifié par David Gaider, 03 août 2010 - 03:14 .


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Are other races that have been assimilated into the Qunari accepted in leadership roles?

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Damn, guys. Thanks for the insight. Fascinating.

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The more and more I hear about the Qunari, the more and more they sound like they've mastered having a tribal society on a national scale. Everyone working for the benefit of a whole, management not neccessarily being "rulership", a general absence of self-interested commerce...

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SDNcN wrote...
Are other races that have been assimilated into the Qunari accepted in leadership roles?


If the Ben-Hassrath was satisifed with them, yes, it would technically be possible.

Kimarous wrote...
The more and more I hear about the Qunari,
the more and more they sound like they've mastered having a tribal
society on a national scale. Everyone working for the benefit of a
whole, management not neccessarily being "rulership", a general absence
of self-interested commerce...


Keep in mind that there's the ideal way of things working and then there's the actual way of things working. If all qunari felt exactly the same way you wouldn't have Tal'Vashoth or have a need for Ben-Hassrath. They are not machines.

Modifié par David Gaider, 03 août 2010 - 03:36 .


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How are converts assigned a duty - are they asked a bunch of questions by a career assessment officer or something?