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Archontor wrote...

are there anydwarves living with the qunari?

and if so do they have horns too?

[Archontor]

well i already know of a horny dwarf called oghren

Modifié par Archontor, 03 août 2010 - 10:05 .

[nightcobra]

about the warpaint on the new qun'ari concept art, i'm thinking it may be a rite of passage of a qun'ari youth to enter one of the warrior orders like the beresaad. i'm thinking it may not be paint at all but the blood of his first kill. am i close or very far from the truth?



also i'm assuming there are only male qun'ari soldiers as sten said something to that effect.

[Archontor]

i've heard that theory a few times now you may-be right

[Anarya]

Mary Kirby wrote...

A qunari's personal name isn't what you think of as a name. It's more like a social security number. It's information that the Tamassrans use to keep track of breeding. It's not something they ever call one another. What a qunari thinks of as their name is their job title.

Huh. Then what happens in a situation where there are more than one Qunari with the same job in a setting? For example, the infantry soldiers under Sten's command. Would they all have the same name or would they be further differentiated by fighting style or weapon? I mean I guess it would be the same as a human named Steve happening to work with 2 other guys named Steve but we tend to resort to appending a last initial or coming up with a nickname. I'd think it would get confusing if you habitually traveled with a group of 3+ guys who all had the same name, if you needed to address one in particular.

SDNcN wrote...

The wiki says this:

Kadan: Term for something one values highly. Or sometimes the center of the chest. (Literally, "where the heart lies.")

http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Qunari

I actually never knew this either. I assumed it was equivalent to "Ser" or "commander" or something. Wow I really underestimated the depth of Sten's feeling toward the Warden. That and the name thing, I assumed he still didn't feel comfortable enough to tell you his real name.

Anarya wrote...

I really want to ask this but I don't
think you'll be able to answer: I'm curious what Qunari culture looks
like. As in architecture, art, clothing and decorative objects, things
of that sort. Do you have a real-world culture that you are inspired by
when imagining Par Vollen and its people? Is this even something the
writers would handle or is that art department stuff? In Origins they
just seemed to wear/use the same thing Fereldans did but I have a
feeling that was due to convenience and not design.

Also, perusing the wiki I found an answer to this question if anyone else was interested. Apparently David said at one point on the forums that Qunari architecture is based on Mayan. That probably would have been my second choice after Tibetan, if I were designing things.

[Risax]

Aratham Darksight wrote...

Risax wrote...

No wonder some Qunari become Tal'Vashot, on a diffrent note I think David Gaider said that Qunari that abandon the Qun remover their horns, why do they do that?

My guess would be that it's a symbolic gesture. Hornless qunari are thought to have been born for a special destiny. By removing your own, you're essentially saying "I make my own destiny".

Hmm... That makes a lot of sense, thanks Aratham!

[Krytheos]

Hm. I also had kind of a question. Besides breeding within their own numbers, do Tal'Vashoth or Qunari 'fall in love' with the other races, such as Elves, Dwarves, or Humans, and if so, is it entirely 'possible' for one who doesn't adhere to the traditions of Qunari culture to want to 'breed' or mate with another race purely out of love, or does it then just become something akin to the 'breeding' most Qunari go through?

[captain.subtle]

Risax wrote...

Aratham Darksight wrote...

Risax wrote...

No wonder some Qunari become Tal'Vashot, on a diffrent note I think David Gaider said that Qunari that abandon the Qun remover their horns, why do they do that?

My guess would be that it's a symbolic gesture. Hornless qunari are thought to have been born for a special destiny. By removing your own, you're essentially saying "I make my own destiny".

Hmm... That makes a lot of sense, thanks Aratham!

I would imagine that the Qunari concept of destiny is based on practicality than any belief in a higher-purpose.

It is more practical to have hornless diplomats when communicating with Humans, right?

[Risax]

captain.subtle wrote...

Risax wrote...

Aratham Darksight wrote...

Risax wrote...

No wonder some Qunari become Tal'Vashot, on a diffrent note I think David Gaider said that Qunari that abandon the Qun remover their horns, why do they do that?

My guess would be that it's a symbolic gesture. Hornless qunari are thought to have been born for a special destiny. By removing your own, you're essentially saying "I make my own destiny".

Hmm... That makes a lot of sense, thanks Aratham!

I would imagine that the Qunari concept of destiny is based on practicality than any belief in a higher-purpose.

It is more practical to have hornless diplomats when communicating with Humans, right?

I think Mr. Gaider said something like that, Qunari that go in expeditions outside Par Vollen are usually hornless.
I guess the same aplies to Qunari diplomats.

[Ulicus]

Mary Kirby wrote...

Kimarous wrote...

How exactly do the Qunari ultimately determine their role in life? Are there a series of tests to determine their strongest aptitute? Did Sten take the G.O.A.T. or something?

The Tamassrans raise all the children, give them their general education, and evaulate them. Qunari are officially assigned their roles when they are twelve years old. The Tamassrans have some tests, but nothing requiring a #2 pencil. They also have something of a head start on the process, since they are the ones who control the Qunari selective breeding program.

Reminds me of Plato's Republic, somewhat. Are the similarities intentional? Either way, it's interesting.

Modifié par Ulicus, 03 août 2010 - 01:41 .

[Mary Kirby]

Anarya wrote...

Huh. Then what happens in a situation where there are more than one Qunari with the same job in a setting? For example, the infantry soldiers under Sten's command. Would they all have the same name or would they be further differentiated by fighting style or weapon? I mean I guess it would be the same as a human named Steve happening to work with 2 other guys named Steve but we tend to resort to appending a last initial or coming up with a nickname. I'd think it would get confusing if you habitually traveled with a group of 3+ guys who all had the same name, if you needed to address one in particular.

They're further differentiated by rank and task. Scout, archer, first swordsman, second swordsman...

[Arttis]

What was sten?

[nightcobra]

a beresaad, a vanguard

due to his initial skills i'd say, first swordsman

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 03 août 2010 - 03:38 .

[captain.subtle]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

a beresaad, a vanguard

due to his initial skills i'd say, first swordsman

He guarded the Vans of the VIP in Par Vollen....

[David Gaider]

nightcobra8928 wrote...
a beresaad, a vanguard

due to his initial skills i'd say, first swordsman

Sten only gave you part of his name/designation simply because he knew the rest of it was meaningless to you. It's something that differentiates him from the rest of the stens in his kith-- something you don't need to do.

[Arttis]

David Gaider wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...
a beresaad, a vanguard

due to his initial skills i'd say, first swordsman

Sten only gave you part of his name/designation simply because he knew the rest of it was meaningless to you. It's something that differentiates him from the rest of the stens in his kith-- something you don't need to do.

.Does he go join a new group when he comes back?I am guessing so since they do not waste people.

[David Gaider]

Arttis wrote...
Does he go join a new group when he comes back?I am guessing so since they do not waste people.

Sten probably faces a lengthy debriefing with the Ben-Hassrath. He's been off gallavanting with bas for quite some time. Contamination is a risk, you see.

[Arttis]

the rest of his life lengthy or its gonna take a few decades?

How long do Qunari live?

[captain.subtle]

David Gaider wrote...

Arttis wrote...
Does he go join a new group when he comes back?I am guessing so since they do not waste people.

Sten probably faces a lengthy debriefing with the Ben-Hassrath. He's been off gallavanting with bas for quite some time. Contamination is a risk, you see.

He's dead if they smell the cookies on him. Plus if they catch his paintings collection.

Err.. David, are almost all Qunaries big softies like Sten underneath, and don't show it openly fo fear of persecution?

[Arttis]

I doubt all of them but depending on their job they cannot show it I guess.

[Corker]

I've always wondered why a culture that otherwise seems very ability-focused has such rigid gender roles. If a child displays strong talent and competence in an opposite-sex ability (art, management, breaking skulls), why is that not accommodated? Is it just a peculiar blind spot in their philosophy?

[Arttis]

Corker wrote...

I've always wondered why a culture that otherwise seems very ability-focused has such rigid gender roles. If a child displays strong talent and competence in an opposite-sex ability (art, management, breaking skulls), why is that not accommodated? Is it just a peculiar blind spot in their philosophy?

I think if they are very good at something whatever gender it is they become that gender.Of course I am probably wrong.

[iTomes]

Arttis wrote...

Corker wrote...

I've always wondered why a culture that otherwise seems very ability-focused has such rigid gender roles. If a child displays strong talent and competence in an opposite-sex ability (art, management, breaking skulls), why is that not accommodated? Is it just a peculiar blind spot in their philosophy?

I think if they are very good at something whatever gender it is they become that gender.Of course I am probably wrong.

hmmm, how would you know that someone is good at something from the oposite gender? if someones only swinging a sword for his whole life, hell propably never learn to appreciate arts, and if he did, he would know that he never could be an artist and would drop the art-idea. besides, sten says something about "you cant choose what you are, wether youre male or female" or something. so, i guess, even if some kind of gender untypical abbility occurs in the qun, its just ignored....

[Corker]

iTomes wrote...

hmmm, how would you know that someone is good at something from the oposite gender?

From their play?

I don't know if the qunari have basic literacy, but it seems to suit them.  That implies a bunch of kids with writing implements and writing surfaces.  Sure, you could beat the tendency to scribble and draw out of a kid, if that was 'wrong' for his (? I forget who the artisans were) gender, but if that's what he's good at, why?

There's definitely a component of talent realized through opportunity; the Western history of (say) art is predominated by men not because women are bad artists, but because they weren't generally given the opportunity to be artists.  But like I said, I find it strange that a culture which seems so focused on fitting people into society based on ability would slot a twin brother and sister - same parentage, same genetics, same breeding - into different places based on sex instead of actual aptitude.  Not impossible, just odd.

[captain.subtle]

Qunari seem to divide labor as:



Martially Physical : Males

Rest: Ability dependent