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All the new info I'm reading is making me pretty hype for DA2 ( almost equal to my hype for ME2 :-)


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     It seems a lot of people are worried about DA2, which is understandable so  will not bash anyone; We all have our opinions about....well, everything lol. I for one really like what I'm seeing. Especially the idea of viewing the Age of Dragons from a different perspective. So much to see, so much to do. We can only see so much through the eyes of a single person :-))

     Although I would like to know one thing about the combat. Will the finishers happen at random like in DAO, or will the player control the finishers this time around?  That's really the only question I have at the moment. Everything else ( new srt style, upgraded combat, Hawke, ten 10 story line. ) all sounds awesome! I won't lie I was pretty worried about the new style at first, but those worries have been utterly obliterated :-))
Though I have plenty of awesome games with bad graphics lol

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Don't mention DA2 together with ME2 in a thread name.



Ever

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Hahaha why not? ME2 was awesome! I am expecting no less fro, DA2 two awesome games belong to be side by side in my book lol

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Well we do have a small elitism/whiner problem on these forums.

Rubbish Hero and/or Kordaris will show you why...

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It's just... stupid retarded fearspreading coupled with shooter elitism and "oh, no! Dragon Effect" as if it would ever happen and how much would it hurt people to get a grip before posting?

untill then, don't mention those two together.


After the video interview from GI i'm hyped too. the way they describe it is totally DA and the look and sound of themselves makes me sure they haven't ****ed it over yet... though i would like a Vid of Gaider shouting down the halls turning over tables.

Finishers are still random i imagine. i wouldn't want to have to control the finishers while managing combat tactically. i'd never see them then.

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Vulee94 wrote...

Well we do have a small elitism/whiner problem on these forums.
Rubbish Hero and/or Kordaris will show you why...

Probably while squeezing a Lord of the Rings reference in or complaining about Hawkes name.

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BomimoDK wrote...

It's just... stupid retarded fearspreading coupled with shooter elitism and "oh, no! Dragon Effect" as if it would ever happen and how much would it hurt people to get a grip before posting?

untill then, don't mention those two together.


After the video interview from GI i'm hyped too. the way they describe it is totally DA and the look and sound of themselves makes me sure they haven't ****ed it over yet... though i would like a Vid of Gaider shouting down the halls turning over tables.

Finishers are still random i imagine. i wouldn't want to have to control the finishers while managing combat tactically. i'd never see them then.


that sounds like something in an arcade, with you clicking to hit this or that way to get combos, its far from what I wish to see in an RPG

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joriandrake wrote...

Don't mention DA2 together with ME2 in a thread name.

Ever


You know, for all the ME2 fears running rampant around here, ME2 was a great game and even if DA2 turned out exactly like it, it would still be a great game. I'm not saying I *want* DA2 to be like ME2, because there's reasons I liked DAO better than both ME games (despite it being more flawed). I just think it's funny that, to bash DA2 people compare it to AAA titles that were financially successful and critically well-received (ie Assassin's Creed 2, God of War, Oblivion).

I mean really, you could do so much worse. And I think ME2 was a vast improvement over 1. I hope I feel the same about DA2.

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Anarya wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Don't mention DA2 together with ME2 in a thread name.

Ever


You know, for all the ME2 fears running rampant around here, ME2 was a great game and even if DA2 turned out exactly like it, it would still be a great game. I'm not saying I *want* DA2 to be like ME2, because there's reasons I liked DAO better than both ME games (despite it being more flawed). I just think it's funny that, to bash DA2 people compare it to AAA titles that were financially successful and critically well-received (ie Assassin's Creed 2, God of War, Oblivion).

I mean really, you could do so much worse. And I think ME2 was a vast improvement over 1. I hope I feel the same about DA2.


They remove origins, and race choice, and it may be other things like removal of a real inventory and armors for all the companions might happen, sorry but for me not many positive confirmed news happened yet to keep me optimistic, althought I am no doomsayer neither. Comparison with Mass Effect changes are realistic, especially since in one of the interviews they themself confirmed the game is getting streamlined and pointed to ME similarities.

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Skepticism is far better serving than optimism given the trend of the gaming industry. So far all we have heard is "MASS EFFECT!", MASS EFFECT!", MASS EFFECT!" screamed repeatedly and "CONSOLE!, CONSOLE!, CONSOLE!". If you are not a long time player of traditional CRPG games, starting off with KOTOR and Mass Effect on consoles then it's probably understandable why you wouldn't understand the dismay, as you can't comprehend what you haven't experienced.  I think Bioware have made a huge mistake. The art direction is being changed because they do not wish it to look like Lord Of The Rings. Well, it still does, it doesn't really look any less generic. Also I think they seem to be missing a basic point, even though Lord Of The Rings is considered the granddaddy, nearly all fantasy games take inspiration from, by the time the actual movies came out, the visuals, characters and themes in them had been seen countless times before, as it's basically the materiel they were copying. That didn't stop Lord Of The Rings being the highest critically acclaimed, blockbuster, highest grossing epic movies ever created, that is much better than Starwars. I'm sure if Peter Jackson added some black people in to make it more politically correct appealing to a wider-user base, with perhaps new gangster talk,  swearing and gallons of blood to make it edgy (you know, selling out?) it probably wouldn't have been any better a trilogy.

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joriandrake wrote...

Don't mention DA2 together with ME2 in a thread name.

Ever

This.

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joriandrake wrote...

Anarya wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Don't mention DA2 together with ME2 in a thread name.

Ever


You know, for all the ME2 fears running rampant around here, ME2 was a great game and even if DA2 turned out exactly like it, it would still be a great game. I'm not saying I *want* DA2 to be like ME2, because there's reasons I liked DAO better than both ME games (despite it being more flawed). I just think it's funny that, to bash DA2 people compare it to AAA titles that were financially successful and critically well-received (ie Assassin's Creed 2, God of War, Oblivion).

I mean really, you could do so much worse. And I think ME2 was a vast improvement over 1. I hope I feel the same about DA2.


They remove origins, and race choice, and it may be other things like removal of a real inventory and armors for all the companions might happen, sorry but for me not many positive confirmed news happened yet to keep me optimistic, althought I am no doomsayer neither. Comparison with Mass Effect changes are realistic, especially since in one of the interviews they themself confirmed the game is getting streamlined and pointed to ME similarities.

I must have missed this about the inventory and armors.... Wow that sux if true.  Agree about the no good news, as of yet.

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joriandrake wrote...

They remove origins, and race choice, and it may be other things like removal of a real inventory and armors for all the companions might happen, sorry but for me not many positive confirmed news happened yet to keep me optimistic, althought I am no doomsayer neither. Comparison with Mass Effect changes are realistic, especially since in one of the interviews they themself confirmed the game is getting streamlined and pointed to ME similarities.


You kind of are doomsaying when you say things like "they might remove inventory and companion armor" since there's absolutely NOTHING to even hint that that's happening. Taking the conversation wheel from ME does not mean they're taking everything else from it wholesale, that's a bit ridiculous.

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Anarya wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

They remove origins, and race choice, and it may be other things like removal of a real inventory and armors for all the companions might happen, sorry but for me not many positive confirmed news happened yet to keep me optimistic, althought I am no doomsayer neither. Comparison with Mass Effect changes are realistic, especially since in one of the interviews they themself confirmed the game is getting streamlined and pointed to ME similarities.


You kind of are doomsaying when you say things like "they might remove inventory and companion armor" since there's absolutely NOTHING to even hint that that's happening. Taking the conversation wheel from ME does not mean they're taking everything else from it wholesale, that's a bit ridiculous.


the screenshot of Hawke shows a very detailed armor with cloth parts, it does have a chance that a lot more detail like this means something like that, but of course the opposite is also true

just as there is no confirmation on the change, that it won't be like in ME2 is also unconfirmed

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Someone's hyped? Thank God.



Tired of all the doomsayers.

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joriandrake wrote...
in one of the interviews they themself confirmed the game is getting streamlined


Links please? I don't think they would just say something like that, even if it is true, because they are aware that is exactly what doomsayers are... doom-saying.

If one of the Devs was actually oblivious enough to say such a thing I wanna see it Posted Image

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Kritanakom wrote...

joriandrake wrote...
in one of the interviews they themself confirmed the game is getting streamlined


Links please? I don't think they would just say something like that, even if it is true, because they are aware that is exactly what doomsayers are... doom-saying.

If one of the Devs was actually oblivious enough to say such a thing I wanna see it Posted Image


from an interview in one of the magazines, happy browsing

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yup, you are not alone OP. I see DA2 as potentially one of the best Bioware games ever. That is not to be hyperbolic, but I think PC voice acting replacing the dialog tree is a big improvement. I think more visceral gameplay is a huge improvement. And most of all, I think the time passage of 10 years is the single most revolutionary change to the BW formula since PC Voice Acting. I also think the new art and graphics style are a big improvement. but I am not blinded by my excitement, I think there is still a margin for mistake, but I do believe DA2 has tremendous potential.

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joriandrake wrote...

Kritanakom wrote...

joriandrake wrote...
in one of the interviews they themself confirmed the game is getting streamlined


Links please? I don't think they would just say something like that, even if it is true, because they are aware that is exactly what doomsayers are... doom-saying.

If one of the Devs was actually oblivious enough to say such a thing I wanna see it Posted Image


from an interview in one of the magazines, happy browsing


Huh. Well then rather than browsing I guess I'll just assume you're making it up.

I guess I have no official evidence that streamlining (including the armor system you mentioned) is even likely to happen for DA2. While some speculation is alarmist and, if true, could make me post angrily on the forums, what news I've heard so far isn't bad. Some of it is good!

Conclusion: DRAGON'S PEAK STANDS WITH THE OP!
SOUTH REACH STANDS WITH THE OP!
(Will you be that one Landsmeet noble who sides with Loghain? >:o)

Modifié par Kritanakom, 01 août 2010 - 03:07 .


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the article is either stickied or somewhere on the other pages, if you think I made it up so be it, I wish it were so

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Looking at the success this system has had in Mass Effect 2, will BioWare
look at making the RPG elements in games such as Star Wars: The Old Republic
and the forthcoming Dragon Age sequel more streamlined too?



Yeah, to a certain degree. Like I said, we want to make each game better than
the last and to a certain degree, the easier we can make the gameplay while
maximising the depth of the game's detail, is something to aim for. We
announced Dragon Age 2 a short while ago and of course we've been talking
about Star Wars: The Old Republic for a while now – and people have had a
chance to play it and probably see what some of our objectives are with the
game. We try to do a lot of focus testing and usability testing with our
fans. We're always trying to make our games as fun and easily usable as
possible.


Source

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Dynamomark wrote...

Looking at the success this system has had in Mass Effect 2, will BioWare
look at making the RPG elements in games such as Star Wars: The Old Republic
and the forthcoming Dragon Age sequel more streamlined too?



Yeah, to a certain degree. Like I said, we want to make each game better than
the last and to a certain degree, the easier we can make the gameplay while
maximising the depth of the game's detail, is something to aim for. We
announced Dragon Age 2 a short while ago and of course we've been talking
about Star Wars: The Old Republic for a while now – and people have had a
chance to play it and probably see what some of our objectives are with the
game. We try to do a lot of focus testing and usability testing with our
fans. We're always trying to make our games as fun and easily usable as
possible.


Source


Ouch. I apologize. Sorry about that Joriansdrake, I was just tired of some people acting like their fears were confirmed. Still, that doesn't excuse what I said. =/

I'll just... dissapear from this thread until all memory of my screwup here is forgotten. That'll be at page 5, I think :P
Sorry again!

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Kritanakom wrote...

Dynamomark wrote...

Looking at the success this system has had in Mass Effect 2, will BioWare
look at making the RPG elements in games such as Star Wars: The Old Republic
and the forthcoming Dragon Age sequel more streamlined too?



Yeah, to a certain degree. Like I said, we want to make each game better than
the last and to a certain degree, the easier we can make the gameplay while
maximising the depth of the game's detail, is something to aim for. We
announced Dragon Age 2 a short while ago and of course we've been talking
about Star Wars: The Old Republic for a while now – and people have had a
chance to play it and probably see what some of our objectives are with the
game. We try to do a lot of focus testing and usability testing with our
fans. We're always trying to make our games as fun and easily usable as
possible.


Source


Ouch. I apologize. Sorry about that Joriansdrake, I was just tired of some people acting like their fears were confirmed. Still, that doesn't excuse what I said. =/

I'll just... dissapear from this thread until all memory of my screwup here is forgotten. That'll be at page 5, I think :P
Sorry again!


nevermind, as said, I HOPE my fears won't become reality ... but sadly the loss of origins and races which I never even thought I should fear of their loss is also reality

currently I am pessimisticly-optimist what means I hope to get only good news instead of more about streamlining and ME2-like changes

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I was a bit disappointed at the first time I heard that we won't be able to play as our Warden.

As we are getting more and more info about the game, my concerns doesn't exists no more.

My Warden has done his job, it's time for Hawke to take his place and explore the world from a new viewpoint.

As long as I can customize Hawke, I don't mind if I have to play as him/her.

I belive that we'll get a way more intresting and deeper Origin story than we had in DA:O, in exchange for the only Human thing. :D

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Balázs I wouldn't mind Hawke neither as much as I do now, if we could pick a race of our choice