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[Sidney]

joriandrake wrote...

it is in the damn capitol, the most protected city in the kingdom, and from what you say to me it looks like you don't like RPG's overall but you do shooters, or you just love to troll

Oh please stop....

A. You kill plenty of people, without permission, in the capital and the hounds of Johnny Law don't descend upon you.

B. I love RPG's - other than a few strategy games it is basically all I play. I'm just not a fan of the mechanics that burden so many RPG's. Inventory has sucked in RPG's going way, way, way back. You look at inventory for BG or FO (the original ones) and it was the same overly burdensome pile of trash it is now. I mean at least " normal arrows" have been taken out of the equation so I'm not having to truck around a ton of those things. I want a RPG to focus on the RP part of things and not all the nonsense that bad AD&D players brought with them to the format.

[joriandrake]

Sidney wrote...
... Inventory has sucked in RPG's going way, way, way back. You look at inventory for BG or FO (the original ones) and it was the same overly burdensome pile of trash it is now.//snip

the inventory use of both of those games were awesome

edit: although Fallout's had flaws

Modifié par joriandrake, 01 août 2010 - 05:27 .

[BallaZs]

joriandrake wrote...

My main character in DA1 is a close combat dual-wield expert elven warrior, and yes, I am hungarian

Matter of taste I guess. I dislike Elvens, but that's my opinion.
What I meant was that I understand it bothers some of you, but BioWare picked the Human race for some reason.
I belive that over 50% (If not more) of the players prefer the Human race. C'mon it's not that bad. At least u'll be able to customize Hawke. If I had to play as an Elf in DA2, I'd still play on it. I just don't like them;)

[Sidney]

HopHazzard wrote...
Aside from the occasional mage staff and cowl which they could be reselling the same way they resell the stuff you sell to them, the only places magical equipment can be purchased are Wonders of Thedas and the quartermaster at the mage tower.

Umm, not true at all. Gorim has the best ring and dagger in the game. Every merchant in Orzammar stocks some magical items. Valendrian has the stuff, obviously so does Bodahn. Other than a couple of barkeepers I think every merchant has things and not just crummy rinking dinky things but some tippy top type materials.

[joriandrake]

BallaZs wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

My main character in DA1 is a close combat dual-wield expert elven warrior, and yes, I am hungarian

Matter of taste I guess. I dislike Elvens, but that's my opinion.
What I meant was that I understand it bothers some of you, but BioWare picked the Human race for some reason.
I belive that over 50% (If not more) of the players prefer the Human race. C'mon it's not that bad. At least u'll be able to customize Hawke. If I had to play as an Elf in DA2, I'd still play on it. I just don't like them;)

I never pick human as my race if there are other options, we play our own bullheaded monster race too much already

[captain.subtle]

Perhaps the choice of the race as Human had something to do with:



1) The story requires a Human protagonist

2) Voice acting

[HopHazzard]

I would support a system that provides more cash upfront and less vendor trash. However I would really hate something like the system from ME2 where you literally had to track down every spare bit of loose change in the galaxy if you wanted to buy everything you wanted.

[BallaZs]

joriandrake wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

My main character in DA1 is a close combat dual-wield expert elven warrior, and yes, I am hungarian

Matter of taste I guess. I dislike Elvens, but that's my opinion.
What I meant was that I understand it bothers some of you, but BioWare picked the Human race for some reason.
I belive that over 50% (If not more) of the players prefer the Human race. C'mon it's not that bad. At least u'll be able to customize Hawke. If I had to play as an Elf in DA2, I'd still play on it. I just don't like them;)

I never pick human as my race if there are other options, we play our own bullheaded monster race too much already

Don't u like the idea of a bad ass, merciless, tattooed full muscled Hawke? Crushing every enemy getting into his way with his double-headed chasind battleaxe showing no regret? Maybe it's a bit harsh, but still, I can't imagine an elf like that.

[joriandrake]

I don't like tattoos, or too much muscle, or crushing stuff if I can also use diplomacy, or two-handed weapons, except if we can wield them in one hand, but most of the time not even then



also, I prefer my main character to be sexy, ergo my characters are mostly elven heroines, or if I really have to play as human, a noble knight

[Sidney]

HopHazzard wrote...

I would support a system that provides more cash upfront and less vendor trash. However I would really hate something like the system from ME2 where you literally had to track down every spare bit of loose change in the galaxy if you wanted to buy everything you wanted.

Instead of buying Lifedrinker why not find it on Kolgrim's corpse? Instead of buying Winter's Breath how about you find in that locked chest in Flemeths' hut? I like finding the Juggernaut armor but I don't want to unlock a chest to find Darkspawn Dagger - Steel. I like Wades Armor because while it is a merchant making it for you at least you earned the scales. I also like the way you can have Wade built you weapons in Awakenings. There are good ways to do lootting without just buying stuff as a result of sweeping up endless troves of  cheap materials.

I actually liked the feel of scarcity in the ME2 world. It wasn't like ME1 where you had so much money you could go all Scrooge McDuck in the hold of the Normandy. There nothing worse to me than that feeling in DAO when you have the Juggernaut, Calins, Blood Dragon, Legion armors and you are selling one away because you've only got 3 warriors so the other one doesn't do you any good. Scarcity to me makes each item feel more valuable and less redundant.

[joriandrake]

In the end you also pay/give Wade something just like to any other merchant or craftsman to get the stuff you like

[HopHazzard]

Sidney wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...
Aside from the occasional mage staff and cowl which they could be reselling the same way they resell the stuff you sell to them, the only places magical equipment can be purchased are Wonders of Thedas and the quartermaster at the mage tower.

Umm, not true at all. Gorim has the best ring and dagger in the game. Every merchant in Orzammar stocks some magical items. Valendrian has the stuff, obviously so does Bodahn. Other than a couple of barkeepers I think every merchant has things and not just crummy rinking dinky things but some tippy top type materials.

There's a difference between magic items and enchanted items. Gorim doesn't sell any magic items. He sells some enchanted weapons and enchantment is something dwarves are said to be quite good at. And Valendrian isn't a merchant. He gives you one item which once belonged to Duncan. And what's the point of having vendors only sell things you wouldn't want? Why shouldn't Wade the best smith in Denerim sell the best armor in Denerim? Why shouldn't Gorim who's father-in-law is an expert dwarven smith sell awesome weapons? Why shouldn't Bodahn who's spent a lot of time scavenging the old thaigs for equipment have good things to sell? Why should Alpha Darkspawn drop something any better than the things I can buy from master craftsmen?

Modifié par HopHazzard, 01 août 2010 - 05:47 .

[BallaZs]

joriandrake wrote...

I don't like tattoos, or too much muscle, or crushing stuff if I can also use diplomacy, or two-handed weapons, except if we can wield them in one hand, but most of the time not even then

also, I prefer my main character to be sexy, ergo my characters are mostly elven heroines, or if I really have to play as human, a noble knight

I see. Looks like we have different 'hero ideals'.
Anyway it's good to get known others opinion.
So if I get it right, you have used diplomacy over 'muscle' to settle the matters, haven't u? Well, being 'sexy' is relative.
To stay in the DA topic, I'd rather imagine a hero I mentoined before for Morrigan, than your arisen hero ideal. No offense.
If u don't mind I ask, who were you romancing with, in DA:O?

Modifié par BallaZs, 01 août 2010 - 05:49 .

[HopHazzard]

Sidney wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...

I would support a system that provides more cash upfront and less vendor trash. However I would really hate something like the system from ME2 where you literally had to track down every spare bit of loose change in the galaxy if you wanted to buy everything you wanted.

Instead of buying Lifedrinker why not find it on Kolgrim's corpse? Instead of buying Winter's Breath how about you find in that locked chest in Flemeths' hut? I like finding the Juggernaut armor but I don't want to unlock a chest to find Darkspawn Dagger - Steel. I like Wades Armor because while it is a merchant making it for you at least you earned the scales. I also like the way you can have Wade built you weapons in Awakenings. There are good ways to do lootting without just buying stuff as a result of sweeping up endless troves of  cheap materials.

I actually liked the feel of scarcity in the ME2 world. It wasn't like ME1 where you had so much money you could go all Scrooge McDuck in the hold of the Normandy. There nothing worse to me than that feeling in DAO when you have the Juggernaut, Calins, Blood Dragon, Legion armors and you are selling one away because you've only got 3 warriors so the other one doesn't do you any good. Scarcity to me makes each item feel more valuable and less redundant.

You'll get no argument from me that ME1's system was clunky. But I think ME2 took it too far in the other direction. And I certainly support fewer locked chests with better stuff in them. To me it comes down to, if you're going to have weapon/armor vendors then they should have stuff worth buying. I also enjoyed finding the Legion armor and the juggernaut armor and the ancient elven armor and the like. But I also liked being able to go out, hunt up some darkspawn, loot their bodies, and sell the junk for some cold hard cash as well.

[AlanC9]

HopHazzard wrote...
There's a difference between magic items and enchanted items.

Is there? What is it?

[joriandrake]

BallaZs wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

I don't like tattoos, or too much muscle, or crushing stuff if I can also use diplomacy, or two-handed weapons, except if we can wield them in one hand, but most of the time not even then

also, I prefer my main character to be sexy, ergo my characters are mostly elven heroines, or if I really have to play as human, a noble knight

I see. Looks like we have different 'hero ideals'.
Anyway it's good to get known others opinion.
So if I get it right, you have used diplomacy over 'muscle' to settle the matters, haven't u? Well, being 'sexy' is relative.
To stay in the DA topic, I'd rather imagine a hero I mentoined before for Morrigan, than your arised hero ideal. No offense.
If u don't mind I ask, who were you romancing with, in DA:O?

damn I wrote a long reply but I misclicked and now i dont wanna rewrite it

in short: i had 8 finished games with different characters, only 2 of them human, one a male noble and the other a female mage, I pretty much romanced everyone with the different characters, with the female human I romanced Alistair, Leliana, and the pirate captain chick, all at the same time (also the mage girl was the only one who sacrificed herself)


If it comes to roleplaying I can do that, I still dislike big changes in sequels, this was also with Fallout 3 what I was unable to play until the end as it just disgusted me, on the other hand I had no problem with enjoying the little  romance the main character had in Venetica despite her being predefined. Ofc there was no Venetica 1 with costumization that got removed later anyway.

Modifié par joriandrake, 01 août 2010 - 06:04 .

[joriandrake]

AlanC9 wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...
There's a difference between magic items and enchanted items.

Is there? What is it?

Enchantment!

[BallaZs]

joriandrake wrote...
damn I wrote a lonjg reply but I misclicked and now i dont wanna rewrite it

in short: i had 8 finished games with different characters, only 2 of them human, one a male noble and the other a female mage, I pretty much romanced everyone with the different characters, with the female human I romanced Alistair, Leliana, and the pirate captain chick, all at the same time (also the mage girl was the only one who sacrificed herself)

I see. But still, I hated that I could be noble only, while other races has 2 options
At any rate, from the arts I've seen, I like the look of Hawke. I hope that we can be savages this time. Thats why I was romancing with Morrigan all the time. She was a savage in some way.

Guess that's why you are worried about DA2's direction.(Races I mean) You don't like SAVAGES.

[joriandrake]

BallaZs wrote...

joriandrake wrote...
damn I wrote a lonjg reply but I misclicked and now i dont wanna rewrite it

in short: i had 8 finished games with different characters, only 2 of them human, one a male noble and the other a female mage, I pretty much romanced everyone with the different characters, with the female human I romanced Alistair, Leliana, and the pirate captain chick, all at the same time (also the mage girl was the only one who sacrificed herself)

I see. But still, I hated that I could be noble only, while other races has 2 options

Blame Bioware then, there was a commoner and a barbarian origin but they got cut out

[joriandrake]

BallaZs wrote...

Guess that's why you are worried about DA2's direction.(Races I mean) You don't like SAVAGES.

nope, I would enjoy playing as a forest/wild elf kinda ranger/barbarian character

also, I don't like removal of costumization options, I would rather add to them

Modifié par joriandrake, 01 août 2010 - 06:16 .

[BallaZs]

joriandrake wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

Guess that's why you are worried about DA2's direction.(Races I mean) You don't like SAVAGES.

nope, I would enjoy playing as a forest/wild elf kinda ranger/barbarian character

also, I don't like removal of costumization options, I would rather add to them

First of all, I don't like the cut out of Human Commoner, but i have no rights to blame them for this, since DA:O is the best game I've ever played.
What do u mean by 'removal of customization options'?

[HopHazzard]

AlanC9 wrote...

HopHazzard wrote...
There's a difference between magic items and enchanted items.

Is there? What is it?

Well, for one thing mages who are the only people who can do magic are incapable of enchanting things because they can't handle the raw lyrium. Whereas dwarves who are incapable of magic invented lyrium smithing.

Magic is the manipulation of energy. Enchantment is the use of lyrium to enhance the physical properties of an object. From a real world perspective, there's not much difference, but in universe magic and enchantment are two different things.

Modifié par HopHazzard, 01 août 2010 - 06:32 .

[joriandrake]

BallaZs wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

Guess that's why you are worried about DA2's direction.(Races I mean) You don't like SAVAGES.

nope, I would enjoy playing as a forest/wild elf kinda ranger/barbarian character

also, I don't like removal of costumization options, I would rather add to them

First of all, I don't like the cut out of Human Commoner, but i have no rights to blame them for this, since DA:O is the best game I've ever played.
What do u mean by 'removal of customization options'?

as in, having the choice of origins, races, hair styles, hight and somesuch in a game what then the sequel takes it away again

[Drasanil]

BallaZs wrote...
I see. But still, I hated that I could be noble only, while other races has 2 options

That's not true, you could be a mage too... granted the origin was more or less the same as the elf mage but still, you had two options.

[BallaZs]

joriandrake wrote...

as in, having the choice of origins, races, hair styles, hight and somesuch in a game what then the sequel takes it away again

We won't be able to choose our race/origin, but Hawke will be customizable.
You'll be able to change his/her hair style, customize his/her face, etc.
I belive that DA2 is going to have better/deeper story than DA:O had, and let's admit DA:O had awesome story.
The news are promising, I like that you can choose between kind/agressive/etc. behavior when it comes to the dialogue. Voicing the character just will make him/her look more realistic, even if we have to accept that it comes with the price that we can't choose our race.
People fear change. That's why are there so many negative 'preview'.
But I still try to think positive and hoping for the best.