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Right, I'm about to burst because of this sodding game.

I'm a veteran gamer. I've played hundreds, I'm sure. Beaten all Baldur's Gate games etc etc.

This game is brutally difficult.

I'm playing on Normal, and I'm a dwarven warrior.

I'm entering the tower to use the beacon at the beginning of the game, and the VERY FIRST encounter, I meet 3x of those humanoid darkspawn, 2x humanoid mages, and one humanoid priest, with yellow test.

It's ludicrous. My whole squad's half dead before I even REACH them from fire spells. If I quaff all my pots for the fight, I'm sure I can make it, but then I have 0 pots, and the next encounter, I'm dead.

I got the game on launch. It was UNPLAYABLY difficult then, and it's still too f***** hard.

Anybody got any opinion on this? Am I playing the game COMPLETELY wrong?

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Make use of your mage. He should be able to extinguish the fire and heal your party.

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Hmmm . . . I didn't find that too hard . . .If I'm thinking of the right spot, try to wait out the fire trap, use ranged weapons, and/or try to pull the darkspawn to come after you.



Also, I never heal those mutts - the mage and soldier - you pick up going into the tower, nor do I use injury kits for them, saving the pots for me, and the kits for me and/or alistair.

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There's only the one Emissary in the first room of the tower, though that encounter is probably the toughest one until the boss fight.



It's probably best to use the mage to try to paralyze the Emissary, and then take it down first. If you can't disarm the trap at the entrance you will take a fireball, but honestly it shouldn't completely obliterate you.



It's also possible you just have a really bad build. 2-Handed Warriors are pretty painfully weak in the early game. You could also try lowering the difficulty. For a first playthrough before you learn the ins-and-outs of the tactics it can be helpful.

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Life is strange....

i need only three battles with my mage in the prologue, in the fade, at 0 level, with 0 ability in the game, to understand that the difficult "normal" was too easy for me!

Never back to normal and play "hard" since then, i am at 50% of the game.


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Right, I've taken a break now to calm down. Gonna give it another twirl. Don't think I have a rogue, but if I do, I'll try and disarm the trap first, then chain-stun the emissary and get him down first. I'll try some approaches.



It's just so frustrating, because a modern AAA game like Dragon Age shouldn't really be so damned hard so early in the game. It's almost NES-hard.

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DrOnline wrote...

Right, I've taken a break now to calm down. Gonna give it another twirl. Don't think I have a rogue, but if I do, I'll try and disarm the trap first, then chain-stun the emissary and get him down first. I'll try some approaches.

It's just so frustrating, because a modern AAA game like Dragon Age shouldn't really be so damned hard so early in the game. It's almost NES-hard.


The first time I played through the game on Normal I felt the same way you do. Getting through the tower was a challenge the first time. On subsequent playthroughs where I knew what I was doing, Hard mode became fairly trivial for most encounters. 

As I said, if you really find it too hard then set the difficulty to easy until you get more used to the combat. 

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I've had my share of WTF this is impossible moments witht his game. It is really about doing the right combination of things at the right time. I've rushed in and tried to take down an emissary while leaving the rest of my team to deal with all the other darkspawn only to die in five seconds from crushing prison. Stinkin' mages never miss!  If at first I fail, I try of different strategy.

Modifié par L.Aendrus, 01 août 2010 - 08:55 .


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Yeah.. Yeah I think I need to simply mix and match tactics from now on out. I got through that encounter. Seems the fire bomb thing is always targeted on the same spot, so I just waited for it to explode harmlessly in front of us, then I went in directly for the emissary.



Thanks for the help lads. I needed to vent some frustration. I really, really wanna like this game. I loved Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale.. Mass Effect. and I liked NWN too, so. I'm a fan.

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To spare you future frustration this short guide could be for you: http://dragonage.wik...sts_Ideal_Order

I think it's more or less spoiler-free, but important nonetheless. ;)

Modifié par GODzilla_GSPB, 01 août 2010 - 09:30 .


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Don't worry, Dronline! I guess we have all been there in that "damn, this is hard" phase of the learning curve.

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My first play through (human warrior) on normal I had this feeling on many occasions, that first Ogre in the tower at Ostagar, those Revenants and there was one fight in the circle tower against a desire demon and a bunch of templars that had me pulling my hair out. The game gets easier as you go along, I had huge problems with certain moments but dispatched the Archdemon pretty simply even on my first play.

Second play as a Mage on hard was far easier, once you have got the grasps of the game it's not half as challenging. I've actually just started my 3rd play now as an elf rogue, stepped up to nightmare now as it's the only level that is close to offering a challenge for me now.

Modifié par kingjezza, 01 août 2010 - 09:42 .


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My first play through I went to Orzamar right after Lothering. Lemme tell you, that was NOT fun.

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DrOnline wrote...

Right, I'm about to burst because of this sodding game.

I'm a veteran gamer. I've played hundreds, I'm sure. Beaten all Baldur's Gate games etc etc.

This game is brutally difficult.

I'm playing on Normal, and I'm a dwarven warrior.

I'm entering the tower to use the beacon at the beginning of the game, and the VERY FIRST encounter, I meet 3x of those humanoid darkspawn, 2x humanoid mages, and one humanoid priest, with yellow test.

It's ludicrous. My whole squad's half dead before I even REACH them from fire spells. If I quaff all my pots for the fight, I'm sure I can make it, but then I have 0 pots, and the next encounter, I'm dead.

I got the game on launch. It was UNPLAYABLY difficult then, and it's still too f***** hard.

Anybody got any opinion on this? Am I playing the game COMPLETELY wrong?




I would suggest putting it on easy for now. There are certain WTF this is hard moments for me too but you always have to use different tactics,. I had never played a party based single player game before this and I had little trouble although there are certain parts like a stage of the werewolf part of the game where they pin your guys down and you have to use a ton of tactics. I consider myself fairly good at the game but I had to try several times to beat that. I've also had some trouble against all mage groups that have stunlocked me before, It's akll about the tactics though, sometimes you'll even need to run away and draw guys toward you if there are to many traps set up. Just make sure in your group you have a healer a tank and at least 1 dps .

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TJPags wrote...

My first play through I went to Orzamar right after Lothering. Lemme tell you, that was NOT fun.



Yeah I do like 2 hours of wikia reading before playing too much of any game, although apparently loghains guys are supposed to be a gating encounter. I personally do mages elves then redlciffe though to get juggernaut early..

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Sad.. because of whiners like the OP, they tumbed down the difficulty some times already.. best example Awakening, and will most probably continue to do so with DA2.

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Yeah, i HATED the encounter in the tower! All my previous experience sort of had me set up to think that the AI for the companions would be better :( nope. It took me a dozen attempts my first time to get through it. The second time through, i dont even remember cuz it went like butter! I wouldnt be surprised if there is some program that they have in the game where, if its your first time through an area, they scale up the difficulty then call it learning curve! LOL Of course, i am kidding, but sometimes it seems that way :)

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yeah mages can be rough especially in early game , one large help if your not useing it already is the "pause" function when u bring up the action radial (for console) not sure how its integrated in pc coming from baldurs im sure your familiar with the pros of being able to pause battle to asses the battle field and give individual commands to pt members.also to save u furthur headaches ect.. look into dispels for when mages start to use curse of mortality and other such painfull higher lvl magic curse of mortality and crushing prison can humble even the greatest of wardens if not delt with properly and GL hope u carry on to enjoy the brilliant story that is DA:O/:A ;)

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Nekator wrote...

Sad.. because of whiners like the OP, they tumbed down the difficulty some times already.. best example Awakening, and will most probably continue to do so with DA2.



Yeah I know what you mean but it's not good to be too harsh. I mean I believe I had a rant on here about how mages how misdirection hex which cripples my guy and can't be removed.


I don't see how the situation the OP talks about is hard as I had no trouble until revenants on my first play but I've had my share of frustating situations.

Honestly though if you really want the difficulty to be extreme you can play ninja gaiden because while I don't want dragon age being easy on the hardest difficulty it's more about the story and I don't see how anyone would say nightmare is overly easy.

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Nekator wrote...

Sad.. because of whiners like the OP, they tumbed down the difficulty some times already.. best example Awakening, and will most probably continue to do so with DA2.


Awakening was a joke in terms of difficulty.  Everything except bosses seemed to go down as soon as I looked at them . . and bosses weren't much tougher.
Was VERY disappointed with that.

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Make good use of setting your party on hold and I often set the characters tactics to defensive. Work on keeping your party back, then use one member to run around pull and then run back to your party. Only a few will come after you and you could easily dispatch them. Lay down some traps also if you want.

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If you hug the "wall" to the right near the grease trap and it doesn't go off. At least I've been able to do that.

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I'm sure somebody else already told you but if everything else fail try to lower the difficulty ;)

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1.) Put your party behind the wall.

2.) Take one toon with a bow.

3.) Go out and shoot some darkspawn over the barricade.

4.) Run back to your party and wait.

5.) Profit.



You now have mastered DA combat tactics 101.

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Nekator wrote...

Sad.. because of whiners like the OP, they tumbed down the difficulty some times already.. best example Awakening, and will most probably continue to do so with DA2.



haha, I was going to give advice but some people already gave some good ones to the OP while being Coridal.  while you on the other hand "whine" about the "whiners" ironic! Posted Image

To OP, I also had some difficulty and Im playing the console version, it was tough managing tactics with an xbox controller.