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[Landline]

Normandy30 wrote...

Note that in ME 1 when you would choose Liara for a mission and she had to put on a helmet she wore a normal human size helmet.

Actually her helmets were streatched out in the back to make room for the tenticals.

[Normandy30]

Landline wrote...

Normandy30 wrote...

Note that in ME 1 when you would choose Liara for a mission and she had to put on a helmet she wore a normal human size helmet.

Actually her helmets were streatched out in the back to make room for the tenticals.

Just got done playing and her helmet did not look any differnt from that of mine or Gunnery Cheif  William's.

[Simpfan]

They are folds of skin, not tentacles.

[OneDrunkMonk]

Folds of skin...Only a hairy human would find them odd.

[Jigero]

I always thought them some thing simmilar to a shark fin, tight leathery skin over cartalige, flexable yet semi rigid.

[bottledwater]

mass effect aliens are one major shortcoming imo. the hanar are an abomination to all that is scientific in nature, and the elcor could not have possibly developed intelligence without being able to use tools (the whole walking on all fours kinda gets in the way of holding stuff). the asari are just stupid, aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

[thegreateski]

bottledwater wrote...
aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

No way man. They look like blue Turians! Just look at the head fringe.

Modifié par thegreateski, 02 août 2010 - 06:08 .

[Simpfan]

bottledwater wrote...

mass effect aliens are one major shortcoming imo. the hanar are an abomination to all that is scientific in nature, and the elcor could not have possibly developed intelligence without being able to use tools (the whole walking on all fours kinda gets in the way of holding stuff). the asari are just stupid, aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

If you look closely at the Elcor, the front limbs are hands.
They walk with them using their knuckles, similar to an ape.

[Jigero]

bottledwater wrote...

mass effect aliens are one major shortcoming imo. the hanar are an abomination to all that is scientific in nature, and the elcor could not have possibly developed intelligence without being able to use tools (the whole walking on all fours kinda gets in the way of holding stuff). the asari are just stupid, aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

really cause last time I checked science hasn't found any aliens to compare too and how life evolves into sentient being we only have one refrence and we don't really know how we did it either. Also  Dolphins can't use tools, but they have language, intellgence that borders on pre cognition, and a strong sense of community and social structure. In most cases Dolphins and Orca out class Primates in every fashion.

Modifié par Jigero, 02 août 2010 - 06:17 .

[Symji]

/threadjack

The thing that really bothers me is the Hanar. Sure, the Protheans gave them language and whatnot, but what they did NOT give them, and what they lack even now, is the ability to manipulate tools. For this reason, the Hanar would NEVER have become a technological civilization. They would have been stuck in the hunter/gatherer phase forever. Now hold on you say, the protheans could have given them advanced tools to skip them past that stage. Not so, if they had, then the Hanar would have been wiped out by the reapers right along with the protheans. The ability to create and use tools is the number one prerequisite for technological progression, even more important than intelligence. It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you can't hold a tool there's only so far you can go.

PS: I realize the hanar can use simple tools by wrapping their tentacles around them, but unless they have some heretofore unmentioned anatomical parts within those tentacles, they simply don't have the ability to manipulate the fine tools needed for advanced technology.

PSS: Or maybe the Hanar just make everything gigantic, you never know.

Modifié par Symji, 02 août 2010 - 07:28 .

[Jigero]

Symji wrote...

/threadjack

The thing that really bothers me is the Hanar. Sure, the Protheans gave them language and whatnot, but what they did NOT give them, and what they lack even now, is the ability to manipulate tools. For this reason, the Hanar would NEVER have become a technological civilization. They would have been stuck in the hunter/gatherer phase forever. Now hold on you say, the protheans could have given them advanced tools to skip them past that stage. Not so, if they had, then the Hanar would have been wiped out by the reapers right along with the protheans. The ability to create and use tools is the number one prerequisite for technological progression, even more important than intelligence. It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you can't hold a tool there's only so far you can go.

PS: I realize the hanar can use simple tools by wrapping their tentacles around them, but unless they have some heretofore unmentioned anatomical parts within those tentacles, they simply don't have the ability to manipulate the fine tools needed for advanced technology.

PSS: Or maybe the Hanar just make everything gigantic, you never know.

Watch a Octopus open a botttle to get at a fish inside of it then come back and tell me they can't use tools.

[tmk]

thegreateski wrote...

http://fc08.devianta...by_deigaman.jpg (obscenity warning )

Personally, I think those tentacles are some sort of natural biotics amplifiers and not tentacles at all. But that's just my personal theory of course.

Modifié par tmk, 02 août 2010 - 07:52 .

[Anezay]

JedTed wrote...

Not every alien feature has to have a purpose or function. I always saw it as a purely artistic feature, how can you look at an asari in profile and not see some elegance there?

I'm more interested in why they look so human(eg. five fingers, five toes) when the majority of other race has weird claw-like hands. Seems more than coincidence that humans, asari and dell all have the same number of digits.

Drell have four fingers. The middle and ring fingers are joined.

[bottledwater]

gone

Modifié par bottledwater, 02 août 2010 - 08:13 .

[Jigero]

bottledwater wrote...

Jigero wrote...

bottledwater wrote...

mass effect aliens are one major shortcoming imo. the hanar are an abomination to all that is scientific in nature, and the elcor could not have possibly developed intelligence without being able to use tools (the whole walking on all fours kinda gets in the way of holding stuff). the asari are just stupid, aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

really cause last time I checked science hasn't found any aliens to compare too and how life evolves into sentient being we only have one refrence and we don't really know how we did it either. Also  Dolphins can't use tools, but they have language, intellgence that borders on pre cognition, and a strong sense of community and social structure. In most cases Dolphins and Orca out class Primates in every fashion.

think about it. if you can't use tools, how in the world are you going to build a spaceship? forget that. if you can't use tools, how can you write books and communicate knowledge? just because we haven't found any other life out there doesn't mean the rules of evolution change on a different planet. you need a very specific set of conditions for an advanced civilization. i know the elcor knuckle walk, and that is the point. they knuckle walk because if they don't, they will fall down and die. its not exactly easy using any tool if a fall can kill you.

Again ONE REFRENCE just because humans evolved
this way doesn't mean it's the ONLY way.  Also nothing was every said they couldn't lift their arms. I'm sure they are just as capable of lifting their arms as a human is able to stand on one leg or doing hand stands. We evloved to cope with our gravity, why couldn't the Elcor?

Modifié par Jigero, 02 août 2010 - 08:27 .

[JedTed]

Anezay wrote...

JedTed wrote...

Not every alien feature has to have a purpose or function. I always saw it as a purely artistic feature, how can you look at an asari in profile and not see some elegance there?

I'm more interested in why they look so human(eg. five fingers, five toes) when the majority of other race has weird claw-like hands. Seems more than coincidence that humans, asari and dell all have the same number of digits.

Drell have four fingers. The middle and ring fingers are joined.

Interesting, i never really looked that closely at Thane's hands.

[Super ._. Shepard]

JUST IS

[2kgnsiika]

I'm sure it's obvious why the asari look like they do: alien enough to be exotic, human enough to be sexually desirable, and the "tentacles" are a part of that. But, like everobody else, I'd really like to hear an in-universe explanation for their appearance.

[hollowbird]

thegreateski wrote...

bottledwater wrote...
aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

No way man. They look like blue Turians! Just look at the head fringe.

Lies and slander! They look exactly like salarians.

[Spartas Husky]

hollowbird wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

bottledwater wrote...
aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

No way man. They look like blue Turians! Just look at the head fringe.

Lies and slander! They look exactly like salarians.

You dont think... they are... like mind controlling us , so that we all find them attractive do you???

[atheelogos]

[quote]thegreateski wrote...

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[foolish replica]

Spartas Husky wrote...

hollowbird wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

bottledwater wrote...
aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

No way man. They look like blue Turians! Just look at the head fringe.

Lies and slander! They look exactly like salarians.

You dont think... they are... like mind controlling us , so that we all find them attractive do you???

shut up, your going to ruin asari for me!

[MassEffect762]

First thing I'd do is try and lick them all over and in between....mmm



LOL.

[Katamariguy]

Spartas Husky wrote...

hollowbird wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

bottledwater wrote...
aliens who look exactly like humans but with blue skin and tentacles? COME ON.

No way man. They look like blue Turians! Just look at the head fringe.

Lies and slander! They look exactly like salarians.

You dont think... they are... like mind controlling us , so that we all find them attractive do you???

Don't be ridiculous, they're just like little elcor.

[wizardryforever]

Symji wrote...

/threadjack

The thing that really bothers me is the Hanar. Sure, the Protheans gave them language and whatnot, but what they did NOT give them, and what they lack even now, is the ability to manipulate tools. For this reason, the Hanar would NEVER have become a technological civilization. They would have been stuck in the hunter/gatherer phase forever. Now hold on you say, the protheans could have given them advanced tools to skip them past that stage. Not so, if they had, then the Hanar would have been wiped out by the reapers right along with the protheans. The ability to create and use tools is the number one prerequisite for technological progression, even more important than intelligence. It doesn't matter how smart you are, if you can't hold a tool there's only so far you can go.

PS: I realize the hanar can use simple tools by wrapping their tentacles around them, but unless they have some heretofore unmentioned anatomical parts within those tentacles, they simply don't have the ability to manipulate the fine tools needed for advanced technology.

PSS: Or maybe the Hanar just make everything gigantic, you never know.

I think much of the difficulties people have with the Hanar can be explained by the fact that jellyfish are a bit more difficult to animate properly, thus the fact that you never see them using tools or walking/floating.  If you're looking for in-game reasons, how about the fact that they are an aquatic race?  They are out of their element when off world and have difficulty doing most things out of water (hence the need for Drell helpers).  Think of how difficult it would be for an aquatic race to survive at all outside of water.  I'm more interested in how they manage to move at all outside of water, since jellyfish are like 98% water, and thus depend on the surrounding water to have any shape at all, take away the water and they are mostly a shapeless mass (not to mention dead).  But the fact that the Hanar are an advanced species isn't all that surprising given the fact that Mass Effect fields solve many logistical problems, and they were influenced heavily by the protheans Enkindlers.

Anyway, on topic, Asari head tentacles are probably nothing more than an alien type of hair, which can be shaped and colored much like our hair.  I got this impression from the Asari with the Krogan boyfriend: ". . .then you have your back tattoo removed, let your scalp go back to its natural blue, and settle down with someone dependable."  The fact that she used the word scalp leads me to believe that they are not prehensile (she can't move them the way she can her arms).  Then she said that you "let" it go back to its natural blue, implying something similar to growing hair which needs to be trimmed, though it may be more similar to snakes shedding their skin, only they do it with their tentacles.  Either way, I would love to hear the official explanation.