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[Shaorie]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Shaorie wrote...

Oh, also, am I the only person who played multiple characters wiht different endings? So for people who are going "OH MY WARDEN ALREADY DEAD!" technically mines is too then.

1. Not everybody has multiple characters.

2. Why should the Dark Ritual Warden continue on to have multiple sequels in his / her name while the Ultimate Sacrifice is just "Meh, who cares. Make another playthrough, you picked the wrong ending."?

So, because they left loose-ends means I chose the wrong ending? Right.

[Shaorie]

Oh, and another thing (it just popped into my mind while playing a DLC):



So, say that they did make a DLC for this - well, it would be the same as the others then. You would play your warden or the one from Orlais. If they stuck to the 'Oh, some people's warden is dead - cant make DLC's/Expansions' then why did they make awakening and the DLC's we have no with our Warden?

[Faust1979]

the Wardens story ends in witch hunt. Plus your warden can die and have multiple endings already in the game so it isn't really needed to bring the warden back for future adventures with all the different endings he or she has in the original game

[Koffeegirl]

Faust1979 wrote...

the Wardens story ends in witch hunt. Plus your warden can die and have multiple endings already in the game so it isn't really needed to bring the warden back for future adventures with all the different endings he or she has in the original game

I think the Warden could possibly have a cameo, or people may talk about his/her adventures in future games, but I don't think they will make the Warden a PC for say DA3 or something like that......and you never know ...at the end of  this new DLC the Warden  could  go to  their CAlling and then die............that could be a way for Bioware to wrap up the story once and for all........

[Nial Black-Knee]

Wow, I've been gone a long time. Seems little has changed. *chuckles*



For those that want a DLC continuation. Cool, I'll play my warden again. I don't see that it hurts anyone that chose to kill their warden off through the US. In fact I would guess that most would play it eventually anyway. (come on, you know you will) There are so few really good RPGs these days. So why the uproar?

[Zalocx]

Shaorie wrote...

Oh, and another thing (it just popped into my mind while playing a DLC):

So, say that they did make a DLC for this - well, it would be the same as the others then. You would play your warden or the one from Orlais. If they stuck to the 'Oh, some people's warden is dead - cant make DLC's/Expansions' then why did they make awakening and the DLC's we have no with our Warden?

Because in Awakening if you wanted to continue playing in a world where your Warden died, you simply could play as the Orlisian Warden who came to pick up the slack after "the Warden" died and Alister was made king (Of course it isn't perfect as there may have been an instance where Alister didn't become the king and the Warden made the ultimate sacrifice but the Orlisian Origin still makes Alister king) but still thats how you explain Awakenings without the Hero of Ferelden.

As for the DLCs, they have never specified WHEN the DLC's happened, everything from Stone Prisoner to Golems of Amgerakcould have as easily happend BEFORE the battle of Denerim for Wardens who made the sacrifice as AFTER the death of the Mother for Wardens who lived, there is no canonical timeline for them. The exeptions being Lelianna's backstory and the alternate universe of Darkspawn Cronicles.

So yeah, all DLC and expansions can be made to work if the Warden died killing the Archdemon

EDIT: Yes Witch Hunt is stated to occur 1 year after Origins (being the only DLC with a canonical timeline to date I think) and assumes the Warden survived, but there is no canonical obligation to play it. If your Warden refused the DR and died killing the Archdemon, then for your version of Thedas "Witch Hunt" never happened

Modifié par Zalocx, 27 août 2010 - 11:31 .

[Shaorie]

Zalocx wrote...

Shaorie wrote...

Oh, and another thing (it just popped into my mind while playing a DLC):

So, say that they did make a DLC for this - well, it would be the same as the others then. You would play your warden or the one from Orlais. If they stuck to the 'Oh, some people's warden is dead - cant make DLC's/Expansions' then why did they make awakening and the DLC's we have no with our Warden?

Because in Awakening if you wanted to continue playing in a world where your Warden died, you simply could play as the Orlisian Warden who came to pick up the slack after "the Warden" died and Alister was made king (Of course it isn't perfect as there may have been an instance where Alister didn't become the king and the Warden made the ultimate sacrifice but the Orlisian Origin still makes Alister king) but still thats how you explain Awakenings without the Hero of Ferelden.

As for the DLCs, they have never specified WHEN the DLC's happened, everything from Stone Prisoner to Golems of Amgerakcould have as easily happend BEFORE the battle of Denerim for Wardens who made the sacrifice as AFTER the death of the Mother for Wardens who lived, there is no canonical timeline for them. The exeptions being Lelianna's backstory and the alternate universe of Darkspawn Cronicles.

So yeah, all DLC and expansions can be made to work if the Warden died killing the Archdemon

EDIT: Yes Witch Hunt is stated to occur 1 year after Origins (being the only DLC with a canonical timeline to date I think) and assumes the Warden survived, but there is no canonical obligation to play it. If your Warden refused the DR and died killing the Archdemon, then for your version of Thedas "Witch Hunt" never happened

So dont play this one then

[Patch5129]

I'm always going to hope for more DLC or expansions, or god willing, a sequel that deal with our Wardens.

I'm always a little surprised that so many people dont care about their (or THE) Grey Wardens.

I still see the Wardens are like how the Jedi's are for Star Wars. A forgotten, and often under appreciated organization.

I'm all for new characters, and yes, seeing that there is no Blight it makes sense that the Wardens won't be on the front line. But I certainly dont want to see my Warden disappear forever.

I understand that the Dragon Age series isnt about the Wardens, but (seemingly) this "Age" but I dont think Bioware should expect me or any other Warden fan to just give up their favorite characters.

Just a thought.

[Phoenixblight]

Zalocx wrote...

Shaorie wrote...

Oh, and another thing (it just popped into my mind while playing a DLC):

So, say that they did make a DLC for this - well, it would be the same as the others then. You would play your warden or the one from Orlais. If they stuck to the 'Oh, some people's warden is dead - cant make DLC's/Expansions' then why did they make awakening and the DLC's we have no with our Warden?

Because in Awakening if you wanted to continue playing in a world where your Warden died, you simply could play as the Orlisian Warden who came to pick up the slack after "the Warden" died and Alister was made king (Of course it isn't perfect as there may have been an instance where Alister didn't become the king and the Warden made the ultimate sacrifice but the Orlisian Origin still makes Alister king) but still thats how you explain Awakenings without the Hero of Ferelden.

As for the DLCs, they have never specified WHEN the DLC's happened, everything from Stone Prisoner to Golems of Amgerakcould have as easily happend BEFORE the battle of Denerim for Wardens who made the sacrifice as AFTER the death of the Mother for Wardens who lived, there is no canonical timeline for them. The exeptions being Lelianna's backstory and the alternate universe of Darkspawn Cronicles.

So yeah, all DLC and expansions can be made to work if the Warden died killing the Archdemon

EDIT: Yes Witch Hunt is stated to occur 1 year after Origins (being the only DLC with a canonical timeline to date I think) and assumes the Warden survived, but there is no canonical obligation to play it. If your Warden refused the DR and died killing the Archdemon, then for your version of Thedas "Witch Hunt" never happened

Bioware said that the DR is not cannon so whatever Morrigan is doing in Witch Hunt will probably not be related to that and will work with all endings except the Ultimate Sacrifice. 

Patch5129 wrote...

I'm always going to hope for more DLC or expansions, or god willing, a sequel that deal with our Wardens. 
I'm always a little surprised that so many people dont care about their (or THE) Grey Wardens. 
I still see the Wardens are like how the Jedi's are for Star Wars. A forgotten, and often under appreciated organization. 
I'm all for new characters, and yes, seeing that there is no Blight it makes sense that the Wardens won't be on the front line. But I certainly dont want to see my Warden disappear forever. 
I understand that the Dragon Age series isnt about the Wardens, but (seemingly) this "Age" but I dont think Bioware should expect me or any other Warden fan to just give up their favorite characters. 
Just a thought.

Witch hunt is the last DLC for DAO and there may be mention of your Warden in the sequel but as far as seeing him/her doubt it because they would have to voice that character and also somehow transfer what your Warden looks into the new updated engine. 

Modifié par Phoenixblight, 29 août 2010 - 11:56 .

[Shaorie]

Phoenixblight wrote...

Zalocx wrote...

Shaorie wrote...

Oh, and another thing (it just popped into my mind while playing a DLC):

So, say that they did make a DLC for this - well, it would be the same as the others then. You would play your warden or the one from Orlais. If they stuck to the 'Oh, some people's warden is dead - cant make DLC's/Expansions' then why did they make awakening and the DLC's we have no with our Warden?

Because in Awakening if you wanted to continue playing in a world where your Warden died, you simply could play as the Orlisian Warden who came to pick up the slack after "the Warden" died and Alister was made king (Of course it isn't perfect as there may have been an instance where Alister didn't become the king and the Warden made the ultimate sacrifice but the Orlisian Origin still makes Alister king) but still thats how you explain Awakenings without the Hero of Ferelden.

As for the DLCs, they have never specified WHEN the DLC's happened, everything from Stone Prisoner to Golems of Amgerakcould have as easily happend BEFORE the battle of Denerim for Wardens who made the sacrifice as AFTER the death of the Mother for Wardens who lived, there is no canonical timeline for them. The exeptions being Lelianna's backstory and the alternate universe of Darkspawn Cronicles.

So yeah, all DLC and expansions can be made to work if the Warden died killing the Archdemon

EDIT: Yes Witch Hunt is stated to occur 1 year after Origins (being the only DLC with a canonical timeline to date I think) and assumes the Warden survived, but there is no canonical obligation to play it. If your Warden refused the DR and died killing the Archdemon, then for your version of Thedas "Witch Hunt" never happened

Bioware said that the DR is not cannon so whatever Morrigan is doing in Witch Hunt will probably not be related to that and will work with all endings except the Ultimate Sacrifice. 

Patch5129 wrote...

I'm always going to hope for more DLC or expansions, or god willing, a sequel that deal with our Wardens. 
I'm always a little surprised that so many people dont care about their (or THE) Grey Wardens. 
I still see the Wardens are like how the Jedi's are for Star Wars. A forgotten, and often under appreciated organization. 
I'm all for new characters, and yes, seeing that there is no Blight it makes sense that the Wardens won't be on the front line. But I certainly dont want to see my Warden disappear forever. 
I understand that the Dragon Age series isnt about the Wardens, but (seemingly) this "Age" but I dont think Bioware should expect me or any other Warden fan to just give up their favorite characters. 
Just a thought.

Witch hunt is the last DLC for DAO and there may be mention of your Warden in the sequel but as far as seeing him/her doubt it because they would have to voice that character and also somehow transfer what your Warden looks into the new updated engine. 

So because they are voiceing the Player character in Dragon Age 2 means they will suddenly have to voice the warden in the DLC if it ever happened? Erm, no. I dont personally care if my character is voice or not - in DA:O or in DA2. I mean, it will be nice for it to be voice but that doesn't mean I want everysingle expansion/DLC to be voice by the character now just because DA2 is - I dont know about you guys.

[arathor_87]

domino13 wrote...

INo matter how I try to look at DA 2 from various points of view, I keep coming back to so many unanswered questions from DAO.  I want to play through with my Warden to answer them for myself.  For example, I do not want to be told in some cameo or cut scene about what happened to my Warden and Morrigan when he chased after her.  And why would any gamer want their romance option interacting with a new character who could care less about them?

This is excactly  how I feel too. I don't want a cut scene or cameo, or that he is mentioned in some conversation between Hawke and a fat dwarf. There are so many loose ends for the warden and I want to finish his story, and I don't buy when people say: Figure out by yourself, he/she rides on a white horse towards the sunset. Come on, I want to play it, not imagine it..

[DAOME2FTW]

The taint takes thirty years to overwhelm a grey warden. The game starts at the burning of lothering and ends ten years later. DAO lasted 2 years, so that leaves eight years for the warden to adventure in this game. I have always had this idea that we will meet the warden, do some quests with them, maybe even play as them?

[Felfenix]

So what if there are loose ends? Such is life. Get over it and grow up. I didn't know Dragon Age was a life SIM and that we'd have to play the Warden until death. Hero walks off into the sunset, the end. It doesn't have to go on ad nauseum.

[GodWood]

DAOME2FTW wrote...
I have always had this idea that we will meet the warden, do some quests with them, maybe even play as them

You won't.

[Riona45]

Zalocx wrote...
EDIT: Yes Witch Hunt is stated to occur 1 year after Origins (being the only DLC with a canonical timeline to date I think) and assumes the Warden survived, but there is no canonical obligation to play it. If your Warden refused the DR and died killing the Archdemon, then for your version of Thedas "Witch Hunt" never happened

That can't be right...I saw a video on YouTube that used an Orlesian Warden.  Morrigan regards the PC as a stranger (obviously), but she gives the same basic information, so it's still valid and it happened.

[xnode]

I rarly rarly post, but when a topic I have real interest in rears it's head, I just have to chime in. The thing is, as the OP has stated, I really feel no true end to my character and I think that is the idea, however like most people who watch a movie and it leave a cliff hanger to the next sequal, I get a bit upset by it.



The issue here is thou, the sequal will have nothing to do with the main character of the previous game, well that's fine and all, I am all about new and seeing a different part of the realm and the effects of my previous action bair fruit, but in the end, I never got my ending. One thing (as stupid as some might think this is) , I didn't get to see my character walk outside at the end and "greet the crowed" and have people kiss my feet , lol ya, well ,... I expected it. It was nice to have the text that followed to finalize the story, but alas this reminds me again of a movie that ran out of budget and cut the ending.



Eh call me a stickler, but I like the idea of a bit more dlc, I got it all and I thought personally it was worth every cent, have to say I enjoyed Lelianna's Song the best out of all them, probably because it was that "other perspective" but in the end, still to this day, I don't feel there was a real ending or "BRAVO! WARDEN!" , same with the expansion, in the end a bunch of text, no real bravo or anything that made me feel like "hey you did it!"... I would die for such a grandour ending, but again that's me I guess and well the OP it seems.

[Ayanko]

Eh, it's most likely warden will be PC in DA:3 It's not going to be the DR baby thats for sure. Unless bioware is getting rid of female PC's.

Even so they vanished for a reason. But is this the last of our wardens? Nahhhhhhhhh.

[UberDuber]

I want to play as the warden in a sequel so baaaaaaaaaad.

[dopefourtwo]

Arkynomicon wrote...

I rather like that the Grey Wardens just stick to doing what they do. Not everything in Dragon Age has to be about them and the Darkspawn. As for the taint killing them, there will probably not be a way out since Bioware seems to insist that it is Dark Fantasy.

I agree, as much as i love my warden I'm ready to play an entirely new character, someone who has no ties to the grey wardens. Although I dont like the fact that I HAVE to be human, I wanna be an elf *sad face*

Modifié par dopefourtwo, 16 octobre 2010 - 01:52 .

[Flying Angel_]

The fact that a lot of people had their Grey Warden dying at the end of DA: Origins shows that it would be kind of hard to program a game that would allow people to play as a Grey Warden again ONLY if they had a saved Grey Warden that SURVIVED in DA: Origins.

[arathor_87]

Flying Angel wrote...

The fact that a lot of people had their Grey Warden dying at the end of DA: Origins shows that it would be kind of hard to program a game that would allow people to play as a Grey Warden again ONLY if they had a saved Grey Warden that SURVIVED in DA: Origins.

Well, so there are no more Wardens in the world? Maybe you can start a new one? And for those who wants to play their old one can do that....

Modifié par arathor_87, 17 octobre 2010 - 06:02 .

[Fault Girl]

The thing is, I can't wait for DA2, looking forward to new characters etc. I just feel that my Warden didn't get an "ending" as such. I don't play male characters so I could never walk off with Morrigan into the sunset. I'd be more than happy somehow in DA2 just a mention over the years about the warden somehow through news or gossip.





I was hoping for a concluding DLC but as Witch Hunt was the last, I feel kinda sad. To be honest, if a slide appeared at the end of witch hunt concluding my wardens ending (like on origins/awakenings) I would have been more than happy !

[YuniSticksitDeep]

This game is being streamlined for cost and console reasons, pointing this out (whilst tempting ) Only serves to get you lockdown! 

I personally am VERY sad my "Sexually Ambiguous City Elf Girl" is being forgotten in  this new game.  You all can pretend you don't care but Yuni  knows...

Yuni<3

[steelfire_dragon]

the warden is dead get over it.