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[Jez_fr]

Super cool Ben =)

If you don't mind I'd have 2 comments:

- The mail looks super thin as it is, even if its magical, a few centimeters thickness would look better I think

- The mace seems to be in a position very unlikely to hold. Most of the weight of the mace being at the head, where it hurts. I'd suggest (humbly) to either put it in a straight position, the weight going down the shaft it could stay that way, or to position the head downside, or both (probably best).

I hope I'm not too much a nitpicker

[B_Harrison]

Thanks Jez!

Jez_fr wrote...

- The mail looks super thin as it is, even if its magical, a few centimeters thickness would look better I think
- The mace seems to be in a position very unlikely to hold. Most of the weight of the mace being at the head, where it hurts. I'd suggest (humbly) to either put it in a straight position, the weight going down the shaft it could stay that way, or to position the head downside, or both (probably best).

- I didn't really think just using a plane for the geometry would be that noticeable; giving it depth would add to the polycount and make the transparency a bit awkward to work with, so I shied away from making it any more detailed. I could probably get a better result by just upping the polycount a bit and modeling in the chainmail's detail, which would also save a texture resource and allow me to use environment mapping on the chainmail. But if it looks all right in game I'd rather leave it be.

- Actually that's partly caused by the odd angle of my screenshot (I used cutscene invisibility and the chase camera to get close, but the wall stopped me getting a lower/better angle); the mace head is supposed to be weighting the center of the shield against whatever object they're leaning against. But given the top-down nature of NWN it might look awkward more often than not, so it's a very valid criticism. I don't mind fixing this one, though to be really fussy I'd have to retexture the mace as well (I painted the shading based on it standing upright).

I don't mind suggestions or criticism at all; I'm still a relative beginner at this stuff and I learned the most from a modder who didn't let me just accept my (perceived) limitations.

Now let's see some more works-in-progress from everyone!

Modifié par B_Harrison, 07 août 2010 - 12:30 .

[Estelindis]

Ben, that looks fantastic! I really like the little rip in the chainmail. Clearly it has been used a lot. ;-)

[Frith5]

Okay, here's my attempt thus far. I'm planning on making a few 'accessories' to put on this prayer kneeler, such as a holy symbol that's hanging off one edge, and an open prayer book or hymnal with a ribbon page marker.





*sweats a little in the company of far better modelers than himself* 

Regards,
JFK

[Jez_fr]

I love it JFK. I really like the "chiseled" edge, and the yellow wood. very cool =)

[Estelindis]

JFK, that is one piece of furniture that every cleric needs. It looks fantastic.

[Builder_Anthony]

I think the white stands out to much...

[Frith5]

Thanks for the kind words.

Maybe the white cushion needs some stuff to break up that clean white look. I was thinking about trying to simulate rolls and folds where the material is drawn together 'under' the cushion, but really this texturing stuff is my weakest area. I'll probably leave fiddling with the cushion 'til I have everything else done, then I'll try to make it a bit more interesting. The rest of the piece does look kind of old (I hope), while the cushion looks like it was just installed this morning, so I agree it could use something more. Thanks for the comment!

Regards,
JFK

[Jenna WSI]

I would suggest changing the cushion to red or brown, and giving it softer edges and adding shallow dips and rises on the top... the way pillows lay after being worn in.

[Jez_fr]

Aah didn't thought it was finished XD
I agree about the white cushion. It could use some "rounding", maybe a simple cylinder would be better than a "brick" look. A bit like this http://www.electroni...und_bolster.gif

Also I would alter a little the front brownish panel to a more yellowish color like the side panels, a bit like this

If you don't know how, it's just a matter of altering the color balance in your image editor, and adding more yellow, less red (tell what image editor you use if you need a more accurate guidance).
Anyways it's all just a matter of taste. (And sorry if I may sound like a teacher, I'm not, just trying to be constructive =) )

[Frith5]

No, I love the comments and advice, so never fear giving it.

I think I'll keep pretty close to the cushion shape I have now, though. Based on my reference images, and more importantly, on my real-life experiences, it's actually quite close to an accurate shape. What you have is a board with the top wrapped in very slightly padded leather, so the corners are pretty pronounced. That said, I think rounding those corners might look more natural to people, so I'll add some rounding to them, but not a lot. I might 'puff out' the top a bit, and maybe add some deformations, but again, in life those cushions are pretty flat and, let's be frank, unforgiving.

When I was a boy (yes, long ago), our church still used a kneeling bench and communion rail, and I recall to this day that the padding was by no means plush. So, the boxy shape stays, but is softened along the top corners (the bottom corners are gonna stay sharp, where the leather is turned over them with no padding at all there). I will for sure though try to work on the texturing. Thank you for the great advice!
I use Photoshop CS4, by the way. For the cushion, I'm thinking about trying for a more leathery look to the material, but I don't know how to go about that.

Thanks again,

JFK

[GhostOfGod]

That is awesome Frith. I would even use this to replace the standard "lecturn" placeable. I do have one suggestion or maybe more of a curiosity. That definitely looks like its meant to hold a holy book or what not. But I don't think there are any placeable books that are angled to sit on top of it. So I suppose I'm just wondering if you were planning on putting a book on it or maybe create a sister placeable book that one could set on top if they wanted. Or maybe even a set of these that are identical except for whatever is resting on top(open book, closed book, holy scroll, relic with chain hanging over the edge, etc..).

Either way it is still fantastic and useful for more than just a high priestess' chambers.

I'm so jealous of all of you and your modeling talent. I've opened up gmax a couple times and just bent the crap out of the teapot then got frustrated and went back to scripting something.

Modifié par GhostOfGod, 09 août 2010 - 02:54 .

[Frith5]

Thanks, GoG! Yeah, I figured on creating several accessories for this placeable. I don't want to put them on it by default, as I think it'd be better for a builder to decide what book (if any) or holy symbol ought to be on there. I'll likely produce at least a couple of holy symbols (Ilmater, and maybe Torm),  a closed book for the shelf beneath, and an open book. The open book will not be identifiable as any singular deity, so should be usable by all.

Now,  when I'll find time to do this is anyone's guess. Pesky work and rl stuff, you know.

Regards,
JFK

[Zwerkules]

As you can see, my swan bathtub still needs a lot of work. The neck has to be connected to the body, the wings and the tail are still missing, as is the water and the foam. And I also didn't make

any textures for it yet.

[Karvon]

Nice looking work everyone



Karvon

[Estelindis]

That bathtub is really cute, Zwerkules. I look forward to seeing the textured version!

[Builder_Anthony]

Ya doesnt look to bad without all the other detail.Maybe you could leave the water level a little bit low in case someone wanted to add something inside of it?I guess thats your call.

Modifié par Builder_Anthony, 09 août 2010 - 11:10 .

[Frith5]

Nice tub! Ah, the luxury of being a high cleric, eh?

Regards,
JFK

[_six]

All looking great. I particularly like that lecturn, JFK, although the texture could probably take a little bit more work to look less like a bad photo if you know what I mean - the flash from the camera is quite visible there. Jez's suggestion of making it more yellowy is a good idea too.

I've got half a mind to do some more work on my shrine thingy now, having rushed it a bit as I was about to go on a mini holiday at the time...

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Edit: which I have now updated. Now added some animations, and added further details such as a curtain to brighten it up a little - also by setting it to "deactivated" you can remove the candle entirely, to free up the altar for any treasure or divine artifacts might fit there. Incidentally, due to some of the lighting settings, viewing it in NWN Explorer won't show how it will actually look ingame, so you'll need to get it in toolset first.

Modifié par _six, 10 août 2010 - 04:23 .

[Jez_fr]

Edit: which I have now updated. Now added some animations, and added further details such as a curtain to brighten it up a little - also by setting it to "deactivated" you can remove the candle entirely, to free up the altar for any treasure or divine artifacts might fit there. Incidentally, due to some of the lighting settings, viewing it in NWN Explorer won't show how it will actually look ingame, so you'll need to get it in toolset first.

nice updates Six =)
Would it be possible you make the curtain as embroidery? =)

@Zwerkules: cool swan
I'm not sure about doing the beak a different texture than the rest though. My personal taste (which is very... personal ^^ ) would say to keep it simply as the rest. Anyway, nice job!

[Zwerkules]

Most of the swan bathtub is finished. I just have to work on the textures. What do you think, should I finish the wing texture with the feathers or should I use a simple marble texture for the wings?

[Bannor Bloodfist]

well, if you mean finish the feathers as you have them in the top shot, i would say, it would need some serious reconsideration. Wing feathers go lengthwise along the wing, not top to bottom as you currently have them. Maybe just a line or 3 along the wing, a darkened or lightened marble line... no fine detail there as that section of your pool would be kept fairly smooth just due to folks climbing in and out... fine details would get wiped away in real life really quickly.



The same can be said regarding the body, the feathers would run lengthwise, from front/neck to the tail. They won't be large, except for the tail area, so you could figure a bit there, but it probably would not be necessary.



Spend your time on the head and neck, most especially the eye area. Give some detail there I think.

[Frith5]

Looking good!

I think texturing some feathers onto the wings would look pretty cool, myself. As Bannor has said, (and you probably already intend), I'd take a look at an image of a swan, noting how the feathers are arrayed close to the back. But I do think having a texture that adds some 'detail' to the carving on the wings and tail would pop out the shape.
All in all, this tub really looks luxurious. Cool!

JFK

[Frith5]

Looking good!

I think texturing some feathers onto the wings
would look pretty cool, myself. As Bannor has said, (and you probably
already intend), I'd take a look at an image of a swan, noting how the
feathers are arrayed close to the back. But I do think having a texture
that adds some 'detail' to the carving on the wings and tail would pop
out the shape.
All in all, this tub really looks luxurious. Cool!

JFK

[Builder_Anthony]

I like the marble.