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[Whatever42]

Why do you hate us?

[ElectronicPostingInterface]

It was magnets.

[Kid_SixXx]

angrySCORCH62 wrote...

Has that every been explained? I mean, I can't imagine anything being left after entering the atmosphere of a planet except for dust.

He died so technically he didn't survive re-entry.

If you're asking how there was enough of a corpse left for Lazarus to bring him back to specs, I suppose you'd answer that by looking at the planetary data for Alchera; the world where the Normandy debris landed and determine if there was enough gravity and trace atmosphere on Alchera to either burn him to a cinder or liquify him on impact.

[smudboy]

We have to imagine the atmosphere is not very dense (comprised of ammonia and methane gas), and that Shepard wasn't traveling very fast. This implies a not very dense planetary core/lack of a proper magnetosphere, but even that's beyond my understanding. Then there's the unknown height and type of the Alchera's atmosphere(s), the lack of an ionosphere and mesosphere (where meteorites burn up in earth.) While we're guessing we'll just throw physics out the door for calculating terminal velocity with high altitude drops, and how Shepard impacts a ground composed of carbon and ice water. Or how Shepard's armor and helmet wasn't pulverized.

Suffice to say, the death of Shepard (and preservation, and resurrection) doesn't make any damn sense.

[InHarmsWay]

I don't think he hit the planet. The light that surrounded his body was just the rising sun as it is the exact same light that came from around the planet.



Also none of the journey entries in Lazarus mention reentry. Just this:



1) Oxygen-deprivation

2) Burns from the Normandy explosion



I think reentry would have been on that list.

[adam_grif]

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Three factors would go into the whole idea. 1) Density of atmosphere: a dense atmosphere would cause Shepard to burn up, a thin atmosphere would reduce friction, but cause low air resistance greatly increasing terminal velocity. 2) Acceleration due to gravity: although most likely not an issue unless the atmosphere was so thin that Shepard never reached terminal velocity, but a very low acceleration due to gravity would limit Shepard's impact velocity. 3) Nature of impact: depending on the surface material in contact and the angle of impact Shepard's kinetic energy could have been greatly lowered in a less traumatic way. The third is probably the most plausible way to explain a mostly intact body; however, I would have to agree that is very nearly unbelievable.

adam_grif wrote...

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

Is this speculation, or is it confirmed somewhere?

Modifié par Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams, 03 août 2010 - 02:43 .

[Kid_SixXx]

adam_grif wrote...

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

This is my belief since checking Miranda's logs during the mech attack metioned that Shepard's corpse had a significant amount of cellular damage due to exposure to vaccuum which wouldn't have occurred if Shepard had been sucked planetward via Alchera's gravity well and scorched while passing through Alchera's trace atmosphere..

Modifié par Kid_SixXx, 03 août 2010 - 02:39 .

[adam_grif]

Is this speculation, or is it confirmed somewhere?

Is Shepard hitting the ground speculation, or is it confirmed somewhere?



It's not. Should we assume that he DID hit the ground, or that he DIDN'T given no confirmation either way? Obviously that he didn't, since it then doesn't require stupid explanations for why he wasn't turned into a thin paste of organic matter on the planet surface.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

adam_grif wrote...

It's not. Should we assume that he DID hit the ground, or that he DIDN'T given no confirmation either way? Obviously that he didn't, since it then doesn't require stupid explanations for why he wasn't turned into a thin paste of organic matter on the planet surface.

That's fair. I was just curious as to if it was explicitly stated somewhere.

[Whatever42]

adam_grif wrote...

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

From the medical scans in the intro, practically every bone in his body was broken. He hit something.

And his helmet was found on the surface.

[CroGamer002]

Isn't this topic discussed 1 BILLION times before?!

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

From the medical scans in the intro, practically every bone in his body was broken. He hit something.

And his helmet was found on the surface.

Well, after he pressed the button on Joker's escape pod it looked like his body cracked in half on that frame in the wrecked Normandy in the cutscene.

[smudboy]

Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams wrote...

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

From the medical scans in the intro, practically every bone in his body was broken. He hit something.

And his helmet was found on the surface.

Well, after he pressed the button on Joker's escape pod it looked like his body cracked in half on that frame in the wrecked Normandy in the cutscene.

I don't recall Shepard cracking in half.

I do recall an explosion hurtling them away there quickly, and then the next scene they suddenly aren't rotating as quickly and are then grasping at their suit, as the camera zooms out and we see them hurtling toward the planet.

[Cerberus Operative Ashley Williams]

smudboy wrote...

I don't recall Shepard cracking in half.

I do recall an explosion hurtling them away there quickly, and then the next scene they suddenly aren't rotating as quickly and are then grasping at their suit, as the camera zooms out and we see them hurtling toward the planet.

It was an exaggeration. Yes, the physics of the whole situation is a little off, but hey, it's Mass Effect. I still love it.

[Kid_SixXx]

Whatever666343431431654324 wrote...

adam_grif wrote...

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

From the medical scans in the intro, practically every bone in his body was broken. He hit something.

And his helmet was found on the surface.

His helmet could've been discarded by a Cerberus away team when their ship landed to discharge their drive core.

[Whatever42]

Mesina2 wrote...

Isn't this topic discussed 1 BILLION times before?!

What's one more time?   I think it was just a tribute to Halo  but we've decided to analyze it to death, as we tend to do.

Hey, at least Shepard didn't get up and walk away from it.

Modifié par Whatever666343431431654324, 03 août 2010 - 03:17 .

[Mallissin]

One more time...we're gonna celebrate...oh yah...all right...don't stop the redundant-threading.

[Mr.Caine]

PKchu wrote...



It was magnets.

Reentry how does that work?

[Dave of Canada]

InHarmsWay wrote...

I don't think he hit the planet. The light that surrounded his body was just the rising sun as it is the exact same light that came from around the planet.

Really, really, really looked like re-entry to me.

adam_grif wrote...

He never hit the ground. He was picked up from orbit, the SR2 and other stuff crashed after he was retrieved.

I doubt the Shadow Broker works that fast, nor would they even care about Shepard because the Collectors pretty much decided that they had him.

[redplague]

I think what would be more concerning is how he is going to survive re-entry into Ashley.

[KingDan97]

redplague wrote...

I think what would be more concerning is how he is going to survive re-entry into Ashley.

AHHHHH Is funny because is implying sexual innuendo

/arab from Family Guy

[Dave of Canada]

redplague wrote...

I think what would be more concerning is how he is going to survive re-entry into Ashley.

That's the thing, he won't.