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[Jzadek72]

angrySCORCH62 wrote...

wouldn't the planets gravety pull shep into the planet though?

If that were true, then how do we have satellites?
If she was at the right angles, Shepard would go into orbit.

Assuming she did re-enter, though, perhaps the armour protected here. It might be composed of similar stuff to a space shuttle tile.

[Rybciek]

Plot hole. End of thread. End of discussion.

[KainrycKarr]

We totally needed another one of these.

[MarchWaltz]

I never knew I can die from re-entering.



Heh heh.

[Spartas Husky]

angrySCORCH62 wrote...

Has that every been explained? I mean, I can't imagine anything being left after entering the atmosphere of a planet except for dust.

there wasn't much left... think that answers it.

Also a "dead" planet, probably didn't have much atmospheric pressure to justify total burning of everything.

Miranda said, we suffered severe burn, besides exposure to vaccum and sub zero temperatures, so, most likely our armors can withstand quite a bit of heat....if we can survive plasma bolts from inciniration and the like, we might be able to survive reentry of a weak atmosphere.

But if that isn't enough...

space did it.

[Cancer Puppet]

Uh, he doesn't. He dies.

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Modifié par MTN Dew Fanatic, 04 août 2010 - 06:16 .

[Massadonious1]

Well, Smudboy is already here. We just need Zulu to complete the pairing.

[didymos1120]

Jzadek72 wrote...

angrySCORCH62 wrote...

wouldn't the planets gravety pull shep into the planet though?

If that were true, then how do we have satellites?

It is true, even for satellites: 

http://en.wikipedia....i/Orbital_decay

If she was at the right angles, Shepard would go into orbit.

It ain't just a matter of angles.  Velocity's pretty damn important. 

Assuming she did re-enter, though, perhaps the armour protected here. It might be composed of similar stuff to a space shuttle tile.

Assuming that it was a re-entry event (and not just a misleading cutscene), and assuming Shep was wearing shuttle-tile armor, you'd still likely be looking at oven-baked, charred-to-the-marrow Shep-corpse. Unless there's some sort of really awesome insulation involved, the heat would conduct quite well, given how thin the armor appears to be and the fact that it directly contacts one's skin (and even if not, it'll directly contact whatever is worn under the armor which will itself directly contact the skin).  It's not completely implausible that you could build a suit or at least a "personal re-entry system", but given what we've been shown, I don't think the N7 armor is quite up to that task.

Modifié par didymos1120, 04 août 2010 - 07:24 .

[adam_grif]

If she was at the right angles, Shepard would go into orbit.





It ain't just a matter of angles. Velocity's pretty damn important.

Shepard was ejected from a space ship which was right next to the planet. It stands to reason they were in some sort of orbit at the time. If you jump out of a space-ship in orbit, you'll be in orbit too.



There's no reason Shepard couldn't have been in orbit given what we saw, and especially given what the alternative is. Orbital decay explains why the SR2 still isn't up there, but gives a window of opportunity for Shepard to have been retrieved from orbit.

[Zulu_DFA]

Massadonious1 wrote...

Well, Smudboy is already here. We just need Zulu to complete the pairing.

Every time somebody mentions Zulu in vain, one Cerberus war kitteh dies in training.

@ OP:

http://social.biowar...69330/3#3171547

http://social.biowar...5/index/2709565

[Whereto]

if there was low gravity and no atmosphere he would be lucky and land in a extremely large snow pile.....fat chance but anyway

[SmokePants]

All you need to resurrect someone is detailed information about their state prior to tdeath. The hard suit could have a super-high resolution micro-MRI, so it could have recorded his cellular and neurological state. That information, along with a DNA sample, is really all you would need, given advanced enough technology.

Obviously, that's not what happened in the game. For some reason, the preservation and recovery of his "meat" was important, even though by that point, it was just a useless blob of protein, Oh well, just stack the Lazarus project alongside pretty much every other technological marvel in the ME universe as things that don't make any physical sense and could never happen.

Modifié par SmokePants, 04 août 2010 - 09:12 .

[Spartas Husky]

well all know the answer

space did it.

[Whatever42]

SmokePants wrote...

All you need to resurrect someone is detailed information about their state prior to tdeath. The hard suit could have a super-high resolution micro-MRI, so it could have recorded his cellular and neurological state. That information, along with a DNA sample, is really all you would need, given advanced enough technology.

Obviously, that's not what happened in the game. For some reason, the preservation and recovery of his "meat" was important, even though by that point, it was just a useless blob of protein, Oh well, just stack the Lazarus project alongside pretty much every other technological marvel in the ME universe as things that don't make any physical sense and could never happen.

Cerberus could have scanned Shepard prior to his death, including all neural pathways. And then for the last moments, they could have created memories based on Jokers reports.

The reason they needed the meat was because the Reapers would be able to tell if he were cloned and lose interest in him. They want the original Shepard.

Coming up with theories is the easy part.  Just look at string theory!

[Soverign 666]

He survives because its a video game and with most works of fiction the writers assume will have at least some suspension of disbelief.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I don't think Shepard "survived" re-entry. She was probably already dead by the time she was relatively close to the surface. So technically, no, Shepard did NOT survive re-entry.

[freeman2008]

He landed in a snow bank and froze to death after breaking every bone in his body and killing off a few brain cells from lack of oxygen. I'm trying to figure how his soul came back instead planting a new soul in him. That would be some very advanced surgery.

[Spyser]

1) little atmosphere. 2) low gravity. 3) do not underestimate mass effect field armor

[WhoGivesADan]

Ok, lets assume there isn't much of atmosphere therefore he wouldn't burn up completely on re-entry. If that's the case then there'd be no (or at least very little) atmospheric resistance. He'd hit the ground and bit of N7 arnour and strawberry jam would be spread all over the planets surface. Let's face it, this is just one big plot hole, but it's a GAME. A work of fiction! Does it really matter? Some people stress about this way too much.

[KenLyns]

It was mentioned that the Broker paid to *scrape up* Shep's remains, which implies he did land on the planet. The atmosphere was probably thin enough that his armor provided enough thermal protection.



If Shep's helmet landed intact, but far enough from his other remains that it wasn't recovered, I wonder what the condition of his head was...

[betd2]

Dave of Canada wrote...


Really, really, really looked like re-entry to me.

Actually it's just entry, Shepard never landed/took off from that planet so it can't be RE-entry.

as for surviving the entry, IDK maybe the suit's Kinetic Barriers protected him (yeah I don't buy it either)
or maybe Shep just skipped off the planets atmosphere...

[Chuvvy]

Don't bother trying to understand it. Just like Asari physiology.