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[Moganza]

 Am i the only one who thinks that they are releasing Dragon Age 2 a little too soon. I mean after just a single expansion pack compared to the nwn and nwn2 series its a big change. They should have waited so that they could make huge improvements (both graphical and gameplay).

[SoulRebel_1979]

EA man, that's their modus operandi. Always has been, always will be.

[Bobad]

Well it depends on how big the dev team is this time too, twice as many bods could lead to a reduced production time.

[Joshd21]

No in fact. They are not releasing it soon enough in my personal thought.

We first get a video game and play it for hours and then repeat the process. Well we had over nine months to repeat the process. I have seen many people here with achivement's for all orgins storys. I personally have the achivement for all possible endings.

Why do you think they coutinue to hammer out DLC once every three months and people eat it up. People or 90 percent of them have FINISHED the game and now they hunger and desire for MORE.

Should they have waited 2 years for us all to grow older with boredom untill releasing the next sequal. No I think Not. I personally want it to be released in the next month.

However when a person likes something they generally want more. I have never seen anyone complain about getting alot of what they like untill now.

Modifié par Joshd21, 03 août 2010 - 04:23 .

[haberman13]

Joshd21 wrote...

No in fact. They are not releasing it soon enough in my personal thought.

We first get a video game and play it for hours and then repeat the process. Well we had over nine months to repeat the process. I have seen many people here with achivement's for all orgins storys. I personally have the achivement for all possible endings.

Why do you think they coutinue to hammer out DLC once every three months and people eat it up. People or 90 percent of them have FINISHED the game and now they hunger and desire for MORE.

Should they have waited 2 years for us all to grow older with boredom untill releasing the next sequal. No I think Not. I personally want it to be released in the next month.

However when a person likes something they generally want more. I have never seen anyone complain about getting alot of what they like untill now.

So need to fulfill your cravings = rush a game out the door?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, of which I'm pretty sure DA2 will likely be.

The only way they can get this out the door this quickly is if the "ME2" it.

Strip away content, streamline, make loading screens, amp up the combat .... pooof - game released.

[Ponce de Leon]

I would rather make another question : when did they start developing it. We know Awakening, for example, got in development one year before release. That's half a year before Origins' release date.

I am almost convinced DA2 is in development already one year and a half at least.

Remembering also a fact : Baldur's gate 2 was released 22 months after Baldur's Gate 1. When they started developing it, I don't know, but 2 years period is more than enough for someone like BioWare to make something really in the "Whoa,that's my favorite game of all times" style

For now, I don't know. I am happy about some things, less about others. Remembering that I know almost nothing, I have to also remember that BioWare in most cases did a very excellent job, and chances are that this will be no less.

[TheMadCat]

Like SoulRebel said that's just EA's style. Find a successful franchise and churn out titles and content for it as quickly as possible. Rinse and repeat until users become sick of it. They certainly have the capability to release a title within this time frame (1.5-2 years development time) so whether or not it actually effects quality is yet to be seen.

[Chuvvy]

I'd rather they have another year, year and a half to work on the product.

[iTomes]

well, actually i dont think its released too early. im pretty sure that the story already stood before part one was released, and if the team manages it to use the given time ressources, then its not impossible to make a good game in the short time: the designers can work on the new art style while the guys responsible for combat make theyre thing, in the meantime the storywriters do the dialogs, which are voiced by the VOs afterwards....

[Joshd21]

haberman13 wrote...

Joshd21 wrote...

No in fact. They are not releasing it soon enough in my personal thought.

We first get a video game and play it for hours and then repeat the process. Well we had over nine months to repeat the process. I have seen many people here with achivement's for all orgins storys. I personally have the achivement for all possible endings.

Why do you think they coutinue to hammer out DLC once every three months and people eat it up. People or 90 percent of them have FINISHED the game and now they hunger and desire for MORE.

Should they have waited 2 years for us all to grow older with boredom untill releasing the next sequal. No I think Not. I personally want it to be released in the next month.

However when a person likes something they generally want more. I have never seen anyone complain about getting alot of what they like untill now.

So need to fulfill your cravings = rush a game out the door?

Sounds like a recipe for disaster, of which I'm pretty sure DA2 will likely be.

The only way they can get this out the door this quickly is if the "ME2" it.

Strip away content, streamline, make loading screens, amp up the combat .... pooof - game released.

What is the point in "when" they release it? If they have already finished Dragon Age 2 without rushing it. Why would they wait 1-2 years before giving it to the general public. In what sense does it make for them to sit on a video game if they completed it without rushing for 2 years?

I was informed by the screen shots the graphics will be improved, the voice actor has already been paid and what remains to see if it actually be a good game. What more could they have done to this game that they have not already done that would fullfill the need to sit on it for another 2 plus years?

Some people believe they are "rushing" content if it's released too soon. That it's sloppy and not placed well. What proof do you have of that? everything I have seen shows Dragon Age 2 will be better and it took less time to actually make.

Perhaps they know the storyline direction they wanted to go following dragon age and as soon as Mass Effect was done they actually got to work. Unlike vampires. I am not going to live forever I am in my mid 20s and I don't want to be thirty by the time they release the 3rd expasnion.

Content delivered quicker to our hands. Does not equal sloppy content. Look at Fable 3. That game has been finished for nearly a year. We saw signs of life at comic con. Yet they wait to release it. Doesn't make the content any better just makes our wait time longer.

What is the purpose to make us wait if they have finished the game? to try and milk everything out of the first game? then people could be complaining it's taking too long and they are greedy for DLC money

Modifié par Joshd21, 03 août 2010 - 04:39 .

[wickedwizzard01]

i must agree with Haberman better wait 1 or 2 years and have Great game then have it rushed out and have a game that could have been great
for a good sequel i'd be prepared to give BW all the time they need even wait 3 or more years if we would get a brilliant game
and yes i have finished DA:O and awakening Multiple times (l stopped counting somewhere along the line)
and i want more DA and much more Morrigan 

and still enjoying it i have all DLC  but not the the abomination of an Darkspawn thingy 
and started a new game again yesterday

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 03 août 2010 - 05:08 .

[iTomes]

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

i must agree with Haberman better wait 1 or 2 years and have Great game then have it rushed out and have a game that could have been great
for a good sequel i'd be prepared to give BW all the time they need even wait 3 or more years if we would get a brilliant game
and yes i have finished DA:O and awakening Multiple times (l stopped counting somewhere along the line)
and i want more DA and much more Morrigan

why are so many suggesting that the game needs more dev time?? i mean, if its good or bad is something well only see when it comes out. so suggesting "it was too short in development its going to be stupid mehh" is just silly because you cant KNOW this until the game comes out. and please much much less morrigan i hated this chick.....

[L33TDAWG]

Well if you do everything in the game the first time, it's over 100 hours of gameplay. Then going for all the achievements requires 4 play throughs. By the time you really do everything you can, you should have over 200 hours on the game. If you can do that with in all this time along with other games and such then just get out more?

[Sylvius the Mad]

Joshd21 wrote...

No in fact. They are not releasing it soon enough in my personal thought.

I can't really get everything I want to out of a game that quickly.  This is why my stockpile of unfinished (and even unplayed) games continues to grow.

A new BioWare title every 2-3 years would be wholly adequate for me.  Anything more than that and I struggle to keep up.

[haberman13]

If it is done and up to DA:O standards I'm all for them releasing it, I'm certainly not suggesting they let it bake in the oven longer than need be.

ME2 proved one thing to me, that EA DOES have a hand on Bioware's decision making, because it was "rushed" as evidenced by the loading screens, removal of gear/inventory etc., things Bioware (traditionally) is known for.  Even one of the devs said "I miss one thing from ME1" [this was never clarified], which says to me that the devs vision is being overshadowed by the "release release release profit profit profit" mantra that EA undoubtedly pushes on them.

Modifié par haberman13, 03 août 2010 - 05:12 .

[Khayness]

The candle that burns twice as bright, burns half as long.

[wickedwizzard01]

iTomes wrote...

wickedwizzard01 wrote...

i must agree with Haberman better wait 1 or 2 years and have Great game then have it rushed out and have a game that could have been great
for a good sequel i'd be prepared to give BW all the time they need even wait 3 or more years if we would get a brilliant game
and yes i have finished DA:O and awakening Multiple times (l stopped counting somewhere along the line)
and i want more DA and much more Morrigan

why are so many suggesting that the game needs more dev time?? i mean, if its good or bad is something well only see when it comes out. so suggesting "it was too short in development its going to be stupid mehh" is just silly because you cant KNOW this until the game comes out. and please much much less morrigan i hated this chick.....

Since i believe you are correct in your previous post about the developing time 
i think you misunderstood , i'm not suggesting that they need more time 
just saying that if they needed more time than they should take it rather than rush it out
and when it's done it's done, no ned to hang on to it longer than need be

Modifié par wickedwizzard01, 03 août 2010 - 05:20 .

[McHoger]

You guys act like there are only five guys on the development team doing everything from design to coding to publishing.

[Faust1979]

 I would like DA2 now! I didn't buy the first major expansion I bought wardens keep and the stone prisoner but the other ones just didn't get me to want to play them and awakenings I didn't buy it because it was just another story involving darkspawn as the main bad guys again yawn

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Here's how it goes: If this is too early, the game will bomb and EA/BioWare won't make much money. There won't be such a short turn arounds between games. If it's not too early, then they'll make a load of cash and the short turn arounds will remain.



Get used to the short turn around. Look at it this way: Gamers buy a handful of $50-60 games a year. EA/BioWare wants as many of those buys to be their games as possible. And they should, they're here to pay their bills. Why shouldn't EA/BioWare go for one of those buys every year? They'd be crazy not to. If every year they drop a game that was as much fun as DAO on me... yeah, they'll get one of my buys.

[Rapidiul]

McHoger wrote...

You guys act like there are only five guys on the development team doing everything from design to coding to publishing.

/thread

[Gill Kaiser]

I just hope that they're having money thrown at them in order to offset the shortened production time.

[Lord Gremlin]

It's not too soon. Really. You can't get enough of Dragon Age.

[Tooneyman]

I'll put it like this. Yes, its too soon and no its not. Bioware or EA works with different studios. The main game devs. Like mary and David probably run most of the top story and level design thus over seeing the projects. They may work in the same studio, but thanks to the internet/emails and phones they know whats going on with a product and how its being overseen. Its like the Tom clancy games. They have one studio in Japan working on a new game and later they have another studio developing another sequel. Look at how Activions runs the COD games. Its the same principle. This way they can always give out more content and games to players. Just it also changes the game play and the setting on how they do stuff.

This would explain a lot of who was working on the new design. They can say they have the old team working on the new game, but thats just bull. They have a lot of new people working on it probably from a different studio.

I like studio swapping, because it creates better competitions amoung company and each studio compets with one another to see who can make a better game. Unfortunately, Obsdian from my stand point doesn't really seem to car, but they did do a better job on Bioshock 2, but i just don't know what to say on it.