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[carrarin]

Is there a way to do this... without using noCD crack.    I can install the game on my system ... but still can't play, because I need to insert the cd (thats what the screen says). how do i point bg to the mounted iso

Thanks

[Lyssistr]

carrarin wrote...

Is there a way to do this... without using noCD crack.    I can install the game on my system ... but still can't play, because I need to insert the cd (thats what the screen says). how do i point bg to the mounted iso

Thanks

BG requires CD to play, if you want to play without a CD there are 3 ways around it,

a) use a no-CD

mount the iso, using microsoft's utility (works fine in Windows XP): http://download.micr...rolpanel_21.exe

c) modify baldur.ini, e.g. as,

CD1:=c:\\BGII path\\CD1\\ 
CD2:=c:\\BGII path\\CD2\\ 
CD3:=c:\\BGII path\\CD3\\ 
CD4:=c:\\BGII path\\CD4\\ 
CD5:=c:\\BGII path\\CD5\\ 

where, in cd1, cd2, cd3 ... folders you place the contents of each CD -including any possible hidden files-, not a .iso.

[Irrbloss]

I doubt talk of mounting iso files will fly any further here than talk of no-cd stuff. It didn't fly very far at all on the old boards. Sorry.

[Lyssistr]

Irrbloss wrote...

I doubt talk of mounting iso files will fly any further here than talk of no-cd stuff. It didn't fly very far at all on the old boards. Sorry.

 Customers are entitled by law to having two backup copies of their software (e.g. the iso OP will mount), also as of recently, using a noCD is not considered illegal under DMCA-like laws. None of that is copyright violation per se, only when distributing backup copies.

 Also, no dodgy links, mount software is from Microsoft.

 It may well close but as long as the OP is not asking for advice regarding illegal activities, he's entitled to an answer. If Bio wants this locked for other reasons it's another matter. They possibly don't like it, but consumers have their rights provided by the rule of law. 

Modifié par Lyssistr, 03 août 2010 - 06:36 .

[nimzar]

Also as far as disk check DRM goes BioWare is one of the cooler companies



They removed the disk check from NWN in a patch

[Lyssistr]

nimzar wrote...

Also as far as disk check DRM goes BioWare is one of the cooler companies

They removed the disk check from NWN in a patch

To be fair, only in Mass Effect 1 drm was harsh. Still, to the best of my knowledge, DRM is a matter of the publisher, not the developer, e.g. Steam's ME1 has no DRM.

[Irrbloss]

Lyssistr wrote...

Irrbloss wrote...

I doubt talk of mounting iso files will fly any further here than talk of no-cd stuff. It didn't fly very far at all on the old boards. Sorry.

 Customers are entitled by law to having two backup copies of their software (e.g. the iso OP will mount), also as of recently, using a noCD is not considered illegal under DMCA-like laws. None of that is copyright violation per se, only when distributing backup copies.

 Also, no dodgy links, mount software is from Microsoft.

 It may well close but as long as the OP is not asking for advice regarding illegal activities, he's entitled to an answer. If Bio wants this locked for other reasons it's another matter. They possibly don't like it, but consumers have their rights provided by the rule of law. 

I was merely pointing out that threads like this had a consistent record of getting locked on the old boards.

Modifié par Irrbloss, 03 août 2010 - 07:08 .

[Lyssistr]

Irrbloss wrote...

I was merely pointing out that threads like this had a consistent record of getting locked on the old boards. I don't particularly care what you do, or whether or not it's legal (most laws are BS), but Bioware apparently do not permit talk on this subject.

 I was also pointing out that as long as it's legal, I'm entitled to help the OP, regardless of whether Bio likes such a discussion or not. Unless Bioware is openly against any fair of use of their products, as defined by law, I can't see why it should be locked tbh.

 If it gets indeed locked btw, I'd expect to read justification for it. One that stems from a forum-policy text, e.g. not fully supporting fair use of Bio products, not a personal interpretation of what should be written or not.

[Irrbloss]

Lyssistr wrote...

 I was also pointing out that as long as it's legal, I'm entitled to help the OP, regardless of whether Bio likes such a discussion or not. Unless Bioware is openly against any fair of use of their products, as defined by law, I can't see why it should be locked tbh.

 If it gets indeed locked btw, I'd expect to read justification for it. One that stems from a forum-policy text, e.g. not fully supporting fair use of Bio products, not a personal interpretation of what should be written or not.

I fully expect the fine-print on these boards to say that Bioware can run them as they see fit, lock whatever they like etc and if you don't like it there's nothing you can do about it. And by signing up you agree to these terms.
There hasn't been any justification provided in the past, as far as I know.

But the intent (sloppily conveyed, I'll admit) of my original post was to suggest that maybe this forum is not the most fruitful venue for an inquiry like this.

[Lyssistr]

Irrbloss wrote...

I fully expect the fine-print on these boards to say that Bioware can run them as they see fit, lock whatever they like etc and if you don't like it there's nothing you can do about it. And by signing up you agree to these terms.
There hasn't been any justification provided in the past, as far as I know.

But the intent (sloppily conveyed, I'll admit) of my original post was to suggest that maybe this forum is not the most fruitful venue for an inquiry like this.

 It depends what you by "mean do about it", of course they can erase at will, they're entitled to do so. The point is what they choose to lock.

 However, if a question about fair use of their products gets locked because Bioware doesn't support fair use of their products, it's a clear signal to Bio's consumer base. It's something I will consider, and possibly others as well, when I decide what to purchase and whatnot.

 You can always vote with your feet.

[Ponce de Leon]

I think that in most cases such threads got locked on the old forums because it gives hints to bypass the copy protection (or how it is called), which might give ideas to people that do NOT own the game. Of course, I don't actually know the legality of such things, but you seem to be quite informed on this, so, it's up to a moderator whenever they see it.

[Irrbloss]

Lyssistr wrote...

The point is what they choose to lock.

As I said, threads that dealt with getting around the CD-in-drive requirement (netbook or otherwise) have consistently been locked in the past.

 However, if a question about fair use of their products gets locked because Bioware doesn't support fair use of their products, it's a clear signal to Bio's consumer base. It's something I will consider, and possibly others as well, when I decide what to purchase and whatnot.

 You can always vote with your feet.

When weighted against the hype I seriously doubt many people will choose to not buy something, regardless of how badly their rights are trampled. But maybe I'm just cynical.

[Kevin Lynch]

It's policy that any discussion of ways to get around copy protection (which is added by the publisher) falls under the same rules as warez, software piracy, etc. Neither BioWare nor EA are the publisher, though; Bio has chosen to enforce this sort of rule as a courtesy to its partners, if not to protect its own investment. We can't very well be okay with it on one forum and against it on another forum, so to maintain consistency, unless I'm told otherwise, this sort of discussion gets locked.

Just to point out that, while in the old forums such discussions tended to also get users banned, we do take into consideration the intent of the post. I understand that it was meant to be helpful so there's no problem here, but keep in mind that what others have said is correct: any discussion to get around the publisher's copy protection, whether you agree with it or not, is not allowed on the official forums. After all, EA/BioWare own the forums so what they say goes.

In the end, if you feel that none of the rules apply, you can always look to this one: We, BioWare staff, Electronic Arts staff, official Moderators, or appointed agents reserve the right to edit, delete, or ban any content found on these sites without warning.

That takes care of everything else.