smudboy wrote...
Ogrek wrote...
He did report the events objectively
If he did that, he'd just leave everything in quotes, and describe the actions. Also, he later wrote he didn't report events objectively.
To quote him, he said he 'added his subjective interpretations to the end' - as in the end of the statement as it was originally written. So yes, he reported it objectively. The subjective parts were tacked on AFTERWARDS. You may want to reread what he wrote rather than what you think he wrote.
smudboy wrote...
- he quoted Zaeed's stories, and pointed out what happened at the Refinery - Zaeed nearly blows the place to Hell if you're a Paragon, and does blow the place up if you're going Renegade. Given that the mission he took was to 'recapture the refinery', he failed.
Where is it shown or stated the mission is to "recapture the refinery?"
Per the Assignment quote:
"Before he was hired by Cerberus, Zaeed had taken a mission to go to Zorya and liberate an Eldfell-Ashland refinery from the Blue Suns. Once his work there is done, he can dedicate his full attention to the mission."
Notice that he took the job of 'liberating a refinery from the Blue Suns'. Not "go to Zorya and kill Vido Santiago". In other words, his job was to free the refinery from the Blue Suns and reclaim it for Eldfell-Ashland. He either blows the place up, or nearly blows it up until Paragon Shepard tells him to stop playing maverick and to do what he was hired to do.
smudboy wrote...
He let a personal grudge against Vido override his mission and lost sight of the goals. He handily kicked ass much of the way through the mission, but didn't accomplish it - Paragon Shepard DOES reclaim the refinery from the Blue Suns, even if it's massively damaged and will need millions of credits to repair.
"Seems he recently captured an Eldfell-Ashland refinery on Zorya and is using their workers for slave labor. The company wants it dealt with."
Now I don't know about the Eldfell-Ashland were thinking when they hired Zaeed, but they wanted him to take care of something that requires his expertise.
They wanted their refinery back from the extortionists. If they'd wanted it blown up, all they had to do was hire an army with an artillery piece or a ship to shell the place from orbit. The fact they sent in a merc instead of a few dozen missiles strongly suggests they wanted the place intact; otherwise they could've just gotten someone else to blow the place up without risking failure by sending in a small band of mercenaries to clear out the place with small-arms. There were far simpler ways to just blow their own refinery up, if that was the goal.
So yes, I'd have to say that Zaeed lost sight of his mission, which was quoted straight from the game's screens above. They said nothing about blowing the place up in either the game quote or your own above.
smudboy wrote...
On top of that, every mission Vido talks about, he loses people - so with the goal of the Suicide Mission Team Leader being 'keep everyone alive while distracting the enemy/protecting the tech specialist'... well, he's going to lose someone on the team. He already demonstrated on his loyalty mission that he's a hardass soldier, but he's prone to forgetting what his job is or what the objectives are when he gets angry - which he does rather easily when he feels something's personal or when a lot of killing's going on.
And what is the job?
Not every story "Zaeed" talks about involves losing people. The Verrikan mission involves Zaeed leading and losing 5 men. It's also the first of many suicide missions he's been on.
As he says himself during his recruitment: "Easy. Cerberus is paying me a lot of money to help you on your mission. That's the long and short." As he sees it, his job is to help Shepard accomplish the mission set out by Cerberus - stop the Collectors. Not 'kill everything that moves' - he seems to forget that sometimes, which means he acts insubordinately (see the way he triggered the Refinery fire, then argued with Shepard about Vido getting away, resulting in a punch from Shep if you took the Paragon interrupt), to the detriment of Shepard's crew or bystanders.
He knows his job is to help Shepard and Cerberus accomplish the mission he's been told about. Like he also said the first time, "I hear we have a galaxy to save." Also remember that the dialogue quotes usually involve someone dying on his side, or else someone losing their head/control. Except that one time he fought that Blood Pack leader by himself, showing that he's tough enough to beat krogan. Shows he's a hell of a soldier, but not necessarily that he's also a hell of a leader.
smudboy wrote...
Now, if you mean 'objectively' to be 'agrees wholeheartedly with your opinion because you're the smartest person on the Internet and even God is wrong if He is opposed to your plans', then no, he wasn't. He was simply being truthful.
Objectively, as in seeing and hearing everything that's shown and told without bias or interpretation.
Then in that case, you're as guilty as saltboy and everyone else you've accused so far.
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