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[Hulk Hsieh]

http://www.destructo...rt-180543.phtml

Bioware has been critizing JRPGs for a while, and as far as we know, Bioware games are not as successful as Bethesdas games in Japan. I think it is time for Bioware to face the J-market seriously now.

[Ponce de Leon]

I don't think I ever will try a JRPG, and in my next 324 years of my life, I never think I will. Mainly because I hate that style and secondly because... well, articles like that convince me even more not to try it!

[WARDEN9652]

its just a matter of taste, i play both so i cant really pick a side though the mass effect games are my favorite

[Last Darkness]

My real problem with JRPGs is teh single universal fact. All JRPG main characters are Retarded, and naive to a dangerous fault.

[nimzar]

I play both wRPGs and jRPGs... They are very different kinds of games but I enjoy both types...



Perhaps a better term for the jRPG would be "interactive" novel or movie. You have slight control over the action but the story progresses according to a set a path.

[Hulk Hsieh]

Well, we all have our ideas about JRPG.



However, what bothers me is that Bethesda is able to attract the niche of WRPG users in Japan, while Bioware seems not willing/able to do so.

[Jonp382]

Hulk Hsieh wrote...

However, what bothers me is that Bethesda is able to attract the niche of WRPG users in Japan, while Bioware seems not willing/able to do so.

I don't see that as a problem. BioWare doesn't have to appeal to every audience, just as Bethesda does not.

[Ponce de Leon]

Hell, it would be cool if BioWare conquered Japan, but I must point out the fact that I don't know ONE single roleplayer in my country who doesn't know of BioWare. And I am not talking about countries like the US, Canada or the UK. I am talking of Slovenia... one of the... worst... little things the EU has in it (Joking of course... or maybe not. We suck!)

[Seagloom]

I see the marketing department at Bethesda Softworks decided to poke a hornet's nest. This sort of ad is nothing new, but disappointing nonetheless. I'm not fond of the mock competition approach to advertising. It just comes across as juvenile. Personally, I prefer western made RPGs. However, my first RPG was Final Fantasy II (IV). JRPGs are what exposed me to this genre. Without them I wouldn't be here, and I would have missed a lot of great stories. Final Fantasy III (VI), Chrono Trigger, the Lunar games, Grandia, Septerra Core, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Breath of Fire and countless others...

JRPGs had a major impact on my gaming. Just as much as Baldur's Gate II, Jade Empire, Neverwinter Nights, Fallout, ect did. Perhaps even more. They are different from WRPGs, but different is not the same as lacking in value.

Modifié par Seagloom, 04 août 2010 - 11:54 .

[Sago_mulch]

they already make jrpgs. just take a look at their characters in their gaymes, they whinge and whine when you do something that they don't agree with and yet they still follow you regardless. oh and they like you rlly quickly if givbe thgem gifts they like.



kinda like angsty teenagers really. which are wat jrpgs mostly consist of. now they only need GOOSH GOOSH

[AntiChri5]

I like a good ol extending of the middle finger as much as anyone, but they could have done much better than that.



Not clever funny or creative at all.



C'mon Bethesda, put some effort into it!

[Loerwyn]

Whilst I do agree with what's being said, i.e. a lot of JRPGs look or play the same (I have little experience, though, I'm stating common opinion), I can't help but wonder if the Japanese see WRPGs as we see JRPGs. Surely, to them, Dragon Age: Origins and Drakensang aren't worlds apart? And ignoring the change in setting and a few other differences, surely they see Oblivion as similar to Fallout 3? I'm certainly not in agreement that FO3 is "Oblivion With Guns", but they do feel somewhat similar.

I think this is a bit of a sad move by Bethesda's PR/Promotions department (assuming they're doing the PR/Promotions for Obsidian's New Vegas). I wouldn't be impressed, for want of a better word, if a Japanese company said that about Western games, so I doubt they're impressed a Western company is saying that about Japanese games.

[Seagloom]

Bethesda Softworks is publishing Fallout: New Vegas. Marketing is traditionally handled by the publisher. I wasn't positive about it when writing my post. Call it an educated guess.

Modifié par Seagloom, 04 août 2010 - 12:31 .

[AntiChri5]

As a rule, pointing and laughing after throwing rocks only wins you friends with those who hate your target.



Dont Bethesda already have the wrpg crowd?

[Rubbish Hero]

That seems almost racist.

[Loerwyn]

Seagloom wrote...

Bethesda Softworks is publishing Fallout: New Vegas. Marketing is traditionally handled by the publisher. I wasn't positive about it when writing my post. Call it an educated guess.

I knew Bethesda were publishing it (after all, they do own the license), but I wasn't sure if they were doing the marketing too.

[MerinTB]

Seagloom wrote...

I see the marketing department at Bethesda Softworks decided to poke a hornet's nest. This sort of ad is nothing new, but disappointing nonetheless. I'm not fond of the mock competition approach to advertising. It just comes across as juvenile. Personally, I prefer western made RPGs. However, my first RPG was Final Fantasy II (IV). JRPGs are what exposed me to this genre. Without them I wouldn't be here, and I would have missed a lot of great stories. Final Fantasy III (VI), Chrono Trigger, the Lunar games, Grandia, Septerra Core, Panzer Dragoon Saga, Breath of Fire and countless others...

JRPGs had a major impact on my gaming. Just as much as Baldur's Gate II, Jade Empire, Neverwinter Nights, Fallout, ect did. Perhaps even more. They are different from WRPGs, but different is not the same as lacking in value.

I'm about 97% in agreement with this.

My first cRPG was actually Bard's Tale, and it was probably years after that when I was first introduced to a Final Fantasy (also FF 2) and I still, to this day, consider FF 3 / 6 to be one of the best cRPG stories I ever experienced.  Oddly enough, outside of FF 3 and 7, and now 13, I've not played hardly ANY JRPGs.

That doesn't mean I feel the need to mock them.

Is this really necessary?  Does everything have to boil down to immature "us vs. them" inanity?  The sports mentality?  The "mine is bigger than yours" stupidity?

Go ahead and get your chuckles, Bethesda, and know that you entertained a small portion of your prejudiced fan-base while simultaneously alienating a large swath of potential customers.

<_<

[Stormghost]

Both genres have their good points and bad points, but I like both a lot.

It's quite annoying to see the Fallout ad go down the predictable path of mocking jRPGs.

[Harley_Dude]

I don't like the big freaky eyes and childlike appearance in JRPG characters. I like my HK-47 and Wrex.