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Unique male asari for squadmate in ME3 ???


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MrDudley wrote...

A male Asasi would probably be an omen or a chosen one. Asari traits point to there being male Asari at some point in the distant past. Something happened...

Would Shepard be such a macho, super badass that he could knock up Liara with the first male Asari in 10,000+ years?

I say... hell yeah.Make it so...


and So....its been like what? 300 years after ME2? so the Chosen one is old enough to kick ass...but yeah Shepard stopped the Reapers 299 years ago

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Everyone who is for this idea is bad, and should feel bad for supporting it. I wish I could post without bumping this thread.

We need fewer super-special Mary-Sues in the ME setting, not more.

Modifié par yorkj86, 05 août 2010 - 04:55 .


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Tsk...what really needs to happen is for a renegade female salarian soldier to join up.

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Oh man, lol.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Everyone who is for this idea is bad, and should feel bad for supporting it. I wish I could post without bumping this thread.

We need fewer super-special Mary-Sues in the ME setting, not more.


Calm down, people. Why is everybody getting so worked up about this?? Just playing with ideas here! Thought it would be interesting to see if more people like the idea of a "male" asari. Not necessarily as a serious proposition for ME3. Just as a concept. A fantasy.
I won't feel bad for bringing it up. Don't be so serious, guys! Have some imagination. I bet if BW wanted to introduce a "male" asari they'd find an explanation to make this plausible easy enough.

About cross-breeds or rather hybrids: I was actually referring to other species. Humans and quarians or turians, for example. Krogans and drell, whatever. I know, an idea just as ludicrous. Beat me with a stick...
In real life cross-breeding a horse and a donkey, for example, results in a mule. But I doubt that works with species with very different genetic codes.
But just as a fantasy, I'd be interested what such offspring would look like.

That reminds me, there are no children in Mass Effect. Since you spend most of the time fighting or talking to your crew, it makes sense. Just wondering.

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No, it's just an idea one would expect to find in bad fan-fiction, not in ME. In before accusations of irony. They have no need for males because of their unique method of reproduction. They don't receive physical genetic information when breeding, so the concept of "male" does not apply, and cannot exist, not genetically, not at all. I strongly dislike the idea.

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Kid_SixXx wrote...

Asari are neither male nor female.

That being said, I am not sure I want to trade one psycho for another.

I think I'd rather see a female Turian squadmate.


I agree.  I would love to have a female Turian squadmate.  We know they fight so they should be wondering around the universe somewhere and I would be very interested in meeting one.

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tmk wrote...

Hermaphroditic organisms can make babies. That is, those that are naturally hermaphroditic, not the ones that are deviations of normally heterosexual species (like human "hermaphrodites" that really are misdeveloped males/females - those of course can't). Physiologically, asari essentially make themselves pregnant, so they must have both "female" organ[s] (which produce eggs) and "male" organ[s] (which produce whatever "activates" the eggs). Unless of course they activate the eggs directly with biotics during melding.


'Tis true. But from what I gather, the asari method of fertilization is purely a function of biotics, and it requires a partner of some kind. An asari apparently cannot fertilize her own eggs without help, so the male role would have to be fulfilled by another individual. Since asari can also accomplish their fertilization method with other species as varied as krogan, salarians, humans, etc., of BOTH genders, I think it's clear that there are no specifically 'male' organs or structures within the asari themselves. So they are probably not technically hermaphroditic or quasi-hermaphroditic beings.

That said, in my aforementioned Cerberus Science Goes Awry scenario, a human male who has some asari DNA would 'look' like a male asari, but still be a human/asari hybrid. There simply cannot be a truly male asari due to the nature of the species.

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Siansonea II wrote...

That said, in my aforementioned Cerberus Science Goes Awry scenario, a human male who has some asari DNA would 'look' like a male asari, but still be a human/asari hybrid. There simply cannot be a truly male asari due to the nature of the species.


The "Lego Genetics" science-fiction trope should be left out of ME, in my opinion.  Humans, Turians and Quarians all have enough trouble eating the same food and drinking the same drinks.  That seems to be an indication that Bioware at least recognizes biological incompatibilities between certain species.

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Your idea is insane. But I also wish that there were male asaris. Hell, I wish that there were female asarisImage IPB

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AwesomeEffect2 wrote...

Your idea is insane. But I also wish that there were male asaris. Hell, I wish that there were female asarisImage IPB


And the Cycle continues. Asari ARE female. And the plural form of asari is asari. One asari, two asari, three asari, four.

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Siansonea II wrote...
'Tis true. But from what I gather, the asari method of fertilization is purely a function of biotics, and it requires a partner of some kind. An asari apparently cannot fertilize her own eggs without help, so the male role would have to be fulfilled by another individual.

Strictly speaking, they do fertilize their own eggs, either with their own sperm or directly with biotics. The partner doesn't really do anything besides helping the asari activate the self-fertilization mechanism. My guess would be that the asari are theoretically still capable of self-fertilizing without a partner, but at this point of their evolution the effect would be similar to inbreeding, so that ability is blocked either consciously or subconsciously. That, and it would be bloody awkward to get pregnant every time one decides to play with herself...:whistle:

Siansonea II wrote...
Since asari can also accomplish their fertilization method with other species as varied as krogan, salarians, humans, etc., of BOTH genders, I think it's clear that there are no specifically 'male' organs or structures within the asari themselves. So they are probably not technically hermaphroditic or quasi-hermaphroditic beings.

I'm not really sure how you get from one to the other. The fact that the aliens don't provide anything that can actually fertilize pretty much requires that the asari have some sort of "male" function within themselves (if you define "male" as "something that fertilizes the eggs"). I suppose it's hard to call biotic mass effect fields "a male organ", but that's a question of terminology. In any case, I wouldn't call asari "females" since the term kinda implies the existence of males as well.

Modifié par tmk, 06 août 2010 - 02:38 .


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yorkj86 wrote...

No, it's just an idea one would expect to find in bad fan-fiction, not in ME. In before accusations of irony. They have no need for males because of their unique method of reproduction. They don't receive physical genetic information when breeding, so the concept of "male" does not apply, and cannot exist, not genetically, not at all. I strongly dislike the idea.


Jeez. No need to insult me. Reminds me why I hate forums...
I haven't read fan-fiction in 10 years, never even considered writing any.

I'm really starting to regret having brought this up. Thank you.

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uh so, if Asari reproduce by mind raping



what the hell are their ****** for? and for that matter, do they even have a hole down there?

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

uh so, if Asari reproduce by mind raping

what the hell are their ****** for? and for that matter, do they even have a hole down there?


right, because normally all the species reproduce by ******

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****** are for breast milk for babies

they are also for foreplay before the actual intercourse and without them, the idea of reproducing will be less visually attractive to males

Modifié par Mecha Tengu, 06 août 2010 - 03:43 .


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Mecha Tengu wrote...
uh so, if Asari reproduce by mind raping

what the hell are their ****** for? and for that matter, do they even have a hole down there?

They concieve by "mind raping". The baby still needs to be born so yes, I would assume they do have a "hole down there" somewhere.

Mecha Tengu wrote...
****** are for breast milk for babies

they are also for foreplay before the actual intercourse and without them, the idea of reproducing will be less visually attractive to males

I love it when people answer their own questions a few minutes after asking them...

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that secondary purpose was a joke lol



but honestly they have no real physical purpose?

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How is "breastfeeding babies" not a sufficiently real physical purpose for you?

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asari dont breastfeed



do they....???

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Asari are a all female race. It is stated in the game and codex alot.

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Kappa Neko wrote...

I don't know if there's been a similar thread before.
I just thought I'd post a ridiculous idea here:

I'd love to have a male asari for quadmate in ME3. I know, there are no male asari. That doesn't mean it couldn't happen once in a trillion birth or something. Genetic error, whatever.
This male asari might live hidden somewhere because he's seen as a monster. There he's nurtured some fury and hatred for the world. Shepard finds him by accident and gets him to channel his anger and fight the reapers. He could replace Jack as the psychotic one on board.
Or different scenario: his uniqueness has made him famous. He's a celebrity. Very handsome, too, of course, as are all asari. Just need to think of a plausible story to explain him joining the mission... he'd need some skills, of course.

Is this an insane idea?!



:huh:

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The asari have eyelashes, breasts, nipples, and navels.   They are viviparous mammals, or viviparous mammal analogues.

I don't understand.  How can people be so dense?   Am I being trolled?

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 But of course :P

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2 ardakt yashis mating produces male asari?