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[Blk_Mage_Ctype]

I know certain people didn't like the Arcane Warrior class in Dragon Age: Origins due to it's overpowered nature, but I for one loved it and don't want it removed or changed in any way.

If other players don't like the Arcane Warrior class as it is, then they don't have to use it.

It's nice having an overpowered class to choose from that can make your 2nd or 3rd playthrough easier on you. 

[Saibh]

They want to separate the three classes into clearer roles. Since Arcane Warriors are ridiculously overpowered and takes the best of the mage class and warrior class, I doubt we'll see it again.

Better yet, there's an in-game reason for not getting this class: you learn it from an ancient mage trapped in a gem.

Modifié par Saibh, 04 août 2010 - 06:05 .

[TheMadCat]

Oh I disagree very much and saying "people don't have to use it" is not a valid reason to keep it overpowered. No one should be forced away from classes/spells/skills/ect for any reason other then their own choosing, if they have to stay way from it due to balance issues then it is a flaw and it needs to be corrected.

[Mecha Tengu]

overpowered?



all the arcane warrior was good for was tanking. crap auto attack, and inefficient casting

[TheMadCat]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

overpowered?

all the arcane warrior was good for was tanking. crap auto attack, and inefficient casting

Who needs casting and a high attack when you're damn near invincible.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

overpowered?

all the arcane warrior was good for was tanking. crap auto attack, and inefficient casting

That's what I was thinking too. maybe someone who thinks that it is over powered can tell me why.

[Mecha Tengu]

yeah and you can't do anything at all but bend over. AW doesnt even have any good threat management



I tried a heavy armoured mage with a shield and no weapon, worked well, but not overpowered

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

TheMadCat wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

overpowered?

all the arcane warrior was good for was tanking. crap auto attack, and inefficient casting

Who needs casting and a high attack when you're damn near invincible.

Why invincible? I must be mising something from this specialization.

[Mecha Tengu]

Shinian2 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

overpowered?

all the arcane warrior was good for was tanking. crap auto attack, and inefficient casting

Who needs casting and a high attack when you're damn near invincible.

Why invincible? I must be mising something from this specialization.

hes right, you are invincible but you simply are there to soak damage, nothing else

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Shinian2 wrote...

TheMadCat wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

overpowered?

all the arcane warrior was good for was tanking. crap auto attack, and inefficient casting

Who needs casting and a high attack when you're damn near invincible.

Why invincible? I must be mising something from this specialization.

hes right, you are invincible but you simply are there to soak damage, nothing else

OK, but what about the AW makes you any more invincible than a heavily armoured warrior?

[Mecha Tengu]

your an even better tank than the warrior because you can also tank magic, not just physical damage

[andar91]

I don't think they need to get rid of the class, but I think it does need tweaking because it removes the inherent weaknesses of the mage and severely upsets class balance. I have an idea, just for a start.



The first Arcane Warrior ability allows you to equip armor and weapons using your magic score instead of strength. What if the ability was kept, except it used HALF of your magic score rounding up to determine what you could equip? I think that, at least for a start, it could help the class be less overpowered but still retain its identity.

[Daerog]

I loved AW, too. I always enjoy a battle mage class. Well, we have a battle mage specialization, but I mean melee combat with magic.

I say tweak Arcane Warrior or replace it with a specialization that is more combot oriented. I agree with Mecha Tengu here, Arcane Warrior was boring in the actually melee fighting part, mostly I just soaked up damage and cast my spells and had Elemental Chaos on. I would like a real warrior mage class, the ghost/spirit/illusion of that one Archon in the gauntlet for the sacred ashes was inspiring to me.

Maybe add a specialization that includes Tevinter lore that has you more combat oriented but a little less defense.

[They call me a SpaceCowboy]

andar91 wrote...

I don't think they need to get rid of the class, but I think it does need tweaking because it removes the inherent weaknesses of the mage and severely upsets class balance. I have an idea, just for a start.

The first Arcane Warrior ability allows you to equip armor and weapons using your magic score instead of strength. What if the ability was kept, except it used HALF of your magic score rounding up to determine what you could equip? I think that, at least for a start, it could help the class be less overpowered but still retain its identity.

I like this idea. Maybe then you could use medium armour at most, which is under used in the game..

This is assuming, of course, that armour would work the same way in DA2..

[BallaZs]

Pleeeease DON'T keep the Aracane warrior overpowered.

[Hel]

Please do not keep the arcane warrior, period!

Lore-wise it was one of the worst specializations, and it obviously catered to a specific crowd of players. Arcane warriors, right... kensai, bladesingers, spellswords, mage-with-a-sword, whatever... it lacked the Dragon Age vibe, in my opinion.

[captain.subtle]

Helekanalaith wrote...

Lore-wise it was one of the worst specializations,

WHAT??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[Mecha Tengu]

Helekanalaith wrote...

it lacked the Dragon Age vibe, in my opinion.

which is..... awesome protagonist with sword + shield whacks at the dragon's head supported by a woman archer and a healer?

pfft as if we've never seen that before

I admit, the game was being too familiar with the hybrid class, but mage + warrior hybrids bring a lot of fun into the game

[Ooga600]

I still want there to be a class that lets mages use armor and weapons, but it should be less of a tank than AW was. It should be just a warrior who can use magic attacks. Basically, trade your powerhouse of sustained spell protection for armor and weapons.

[ImoenBaby]

As long as mages run around in bathrobes, please keep arcane warrior or a nerfed variant. I don't even care about tanking magic, or soaking up damage. IT'S ABOUT THE BATHROBES.

[Beerfish]

Yeah I agree it was over powered and as pointed out a good deal to do with being able to equip the best armour. I got very lazy as a player playing that class because I could screw up my tactics a great deal and still win most battles with out a ton of trouble.

[Beerfish]

ImoenBaby wrote...

As long as mages run around in bathrobes, please keep arcane warrior or a nerfed variant. I don't even care about tanking magic, or soaking up damage. IT'S ABOUT THE BATHROBES.

But they're sexxxxxayyyy.

[captain.subtle]

ImoenBaby wrote...

As long as mages run around in bathrobes, please keep arcane warrior or a nerfed variant. I don't even care about tanking magic, or soaking up damage. IT'S ABOUT THE BATHROBES.

Read Harry Potter much?

EDIT: And there is a reason for the Bathrobes mind you.... Anders tells us as much...... :P

Modifié par captain.subtle, 04 août 2010 - 05:50 .

[Ulicus]

Saibh wrote...

They want to separate the three classes into clearer roles. Since Arcane Warriors are ridiculously overpowered and take the best of the mage class and warrior class, I doubt we'll see it again.

Better yet, there's an in-game reason for not getting this class: you learn it from an ancient mage trapped in a gem you learn it from.

This. I loved the specialisation... but I'd rather it stayed in DA1.

Shinian2 wrote...

OK, but what about the AW makes you any more invincible than a heavily armoured warrior?

"Shimmering Shield", third talent of the AW tree, is the "I Win" button.  All your resistances (including physical) go through the roof. And we're not talking "just at the lower difficulties" here, either. Even on Nightmare, it might as well be called "kryptonian aura" because you turn into Superman. Certainly, it drains mana constantly... but that is rather easily offset by all the stamina/mana regen armour and items you can find.

The only beings an Arcane Warrior need fear are Templars. Which is quite fitting.

Modifié par Ulicus, 04 août 2010 - 05:55 .

[Mecha Tengu]

ImoenBaby wrote...

As long as mages run around in bathrobes, please keep arcane warrior or a nerfed variant. I don't even care about tanking magic, or soaking up damage. IT'S ABOUT THE BATHROBES.

u can go arcane warrior with robes

no one said AW immedeatly = tank