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Why I hate Tali


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Nightwriter wrote...

Serious response to OP:

Tali’s romantic awkwardness was cute – and allowable – because it wasn’t all she was.

I was surprised and impressed by Tali’s fieriness in ME2. She shouts at the Admiralty Board, threatens to overload a volus’s olfactory receptors, gives commands to her subordinates like she knows who’s boss, and asserts herself immediately upon coming aboard the Normandy.

Tali has grown up. She has matured. She has developed.

She is awkward around Commander Shepard because he was there before she came into her own, back when
she was younger and, yes, more innocent. Shepard will always be different to her in this way. I like this. It makes me feel like Tali and Shepard have a unique relationship.

 


Almost every other character had a badass introduction to show they could hold their own, Talis was hiding behind a locked door waiting for you to save her.

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yea I expected something like that would happen, but what else can you do with a goth in a plot. Leave her in the dark corner to her rambling or "lol get to know you and you have sensitive side, I would have never guessed"

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smecky-kitteh wrote...

why can't we get a decent romance like lightning from FFXIII

the mass effect romances fail compared to her



A troll within a troll within a troll? What is this, inception?

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MadCat221 wrote...

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Thanks for sharing.

If you really want my respect though you'll post this in the Tali thread and then passionately defend your position whilst implying that Talimancers are pathetic losers who spend all their time writing lousy fan-fiction.


Ahh... evidence that you are just a petty troll.  Wasn't sure if you were truly before, or if you were just really that fascistic.

I was gonna just stay silent and let the OP have his opinion.


He's not a "petty troll".

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someone who voices his dislike of tali, automatically = a troll



typical

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kraidy1117 wrote..
Proof pleese? I can say the same thing about Jack who wears less. Just because she wears a stupid tight outfit does not mean she was made for horny men, if she did, she would have been a bland character, something she is not.

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GRATUITOUS ASS SHOTS. COMPLETELY UNECESSARY, AND DETRACT FROM THE EMOTION OF THE SCENE.

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Mecha Tengu

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whos complaining? her body is pretty good

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

someone who voices his dislike of tali, automatically = a troll

typical



That's a little ignorant.

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MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

someone who voices his dislike of tali, automatically = a troll

typical



That's a little ignorant.


it's what's been happening for the last 3 pages, people accusing each other of trolls

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

whos complaining? her body is pretty good

miranda is fake, and she works for cerberus <_<

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

someone who voices his dislike of tali, automatically = a troll

typical



That's a little ignorant.


it's what's been happening for the last 3 pages, people accusing each other of trolls



Fair enough.

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MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

someone who voices his dislike of tali, automatically = a troll

typical



That's a little ignorant.


No he was pretty spot on.

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Gamer Xtreme wrote...
Almost every other character had a badass introduction to show they could hold their own, Talis was hiding behind a locked door waiting for you to save her.

You noticed the dead geth around her, yes?

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Gamer Xtreme wrote...

Almost every other character had a badass introduction to show they could hold their own, Talis was hiding behind a locked door waiting for you to save her.


In a videogame, you as the PC must save so many people that it becomes impractical to say a person's need to be "rescued" by the player from a certain situation implies incompetence or weakness.

You save countless other characters in the game. Ashley/Kaidan, Liara, Jack...

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chepa3 wrote...



A troll within a troll within a troll? What is this, inception?


I call it the internet.

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Nightwriter wrote...
You save countless other characters in the game. Ashley/Kaidan, Liara, Jack...

Garrus, Thane, Samara, Grunt, Wrex... you can pretty much say you saved every character.

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Rogue Unit wrote...

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

someone who voices his dislike of tali, automatically = a troll

typical



That's a little ignorant.


No he was pretty spot on.



Wow.

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

whos complaining? her body is pretty good


Weren't you just complaining about how others think the same of Tali?

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Mukora wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote..
Proof pleese? I can say the same thing about Jack who wears less. Just because she wears a stupid tight outfit does not mean she was made for horny men, if she did, she would have been a bland character, something she is not.

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OH LOOK. THIS BOXART HAS BOOBS IN IT. I SHALL PURCHASE IT.
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GRATUITOUS ASS SHOTS. COMPLETELY UNECESSARY, AND DETRACT FROM THE EMOTION OF THE SCENE.


We see Tali's ass, Shepards ass, Jacobs ass, Liaras ass, Ash's ass, Thanes ass ect in the games, that means they where made for sex appeal then!!!!!!!!!:wizard: In fact we more of Jack then we see of Miri and we see liara and Ass side boob and naked ass. Plus you say that thing about Miri but guess what? Tali is plain fan service in ME2, she was brought back because of the fans. Tali in ME was a great character, Tali in ME2 is Miss Fanservice. No romance, oh well you get only two ocnversations.

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I dont exactly recall how you saved Wrex, Thane, Samara and Grunt but ok.

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Kalashnikov wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

whos complaining? her body is pretty good

miranda is fake, and she works for cerberus <_<


Typical Miri hate.

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Mukora wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Don't fight trolls with trolling Mukora <_<

Trolling? I was stating facts. Miranda was designed for sex apeal.


I'm a Miranda fan, and it seems obvious to me her body was designed as fanservice.

I really hate it.

However, I really don't think that's all her character offers. I really liked her loyalty quest.

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Rogue Unit wrote...

I dont exactly recall how you saved Wrex, Thane, Samara and Grunt but ok.



Wrex never needs saving, he's Wrex.

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Tali in the first game was weird, at times she was strong minded and independant. She could survive on her own in most situations, only needing help when she literally went up against an omniscient supercriminal. She at first had trouble on the ship but she quickly adapted and became a popular crewmember with little more in the way of social faux pas when talking with the commander. She was an ok character, but she wasn't all that interesting and her backstory was probably the least developed, mainly down to the fact she was young and had little to tell other that having daddy issues like half of the rest of the cast. She was really only there to be another token alien, which apart from a lack of Salarian featured all the the aliens that were humanoid enough to fight. Because of this most of what you did talk to her about was the race itself, not the actual character.

In Mass Effect 2 she was a nervous virgin blushing evertime the commander even spoke to her, her infatuation with the commander literally defining her personality. This seemed to negate whatever small character development there was for her in the first game as she matured in the mission and became fully of age. At the end it seemed, although still quirky she was more confident and was ready to become a productive member of the fleet. It seems that despite being sent on missions with deadly commandoes and being one of the few survivors of the geth attack she still seemed similar but worse than her worst points in the first game.

What is worse, she is willing to risk her life to f*** a man on a whim just because  she finds his position and his physical appearance attractive. Showing how messed up her priorities truly are. Instead of working on the ship to make sure it is fully ready for a suicide mission, she finds someway to have short, disapointing sex with an emotionally crippled zombie.


You're right on the first account, she wasent a very full character in the first game, and could have had her backstory developed a bit more.  However, perhaps Bioware couldn't have forseen how many people would have their intrest piqued by her character.  Or, maybe it was that lack of information or even a face that drew people to her.

As for being a "nervous virgen blushing evertime the commander even spoke to her",  erm, correct me if I'm wrong, but thats usually how those with a crush act...  I dont quite get what you're trying to put down here.  She's become interested, but nervous and trying to hide it, and failing miserably at it.  (Well, except shepard probably didnt quite see it, but thats not what we're talking about)  She still strikes me as a mature member of the fleet, on your initial meeting, she's in full control of the quarian strike team and seems very confident.  (Until they decide to be sneaky, but meh, minions, what can you do?)

And now we come to the physical relationship.  Now, bioware never really lets you "**** on a whim", maybe you slept through the layers of dialauge, but its anything if on a whim.  Sex is part of love, its always going to happen, it developed along a natural progression, I can find no fault with it that any of the other relationship options didnt have.  If anything the "speed" of its development is due to the "tomorrow we may die" plot point, something quite common in any fictional wartime romance.

As for preperations, if things are done, they're done.  I've personally found that fretting over details over and over up to the final seconds doesent help in any way.  Perhaps she thinks similar.  I dont know, and to tell the truth, we dont know what was done, had to be done, or should have been done.  Not enough info.


So have your own opinion, but I feel you've exaggerated points to bring about an extremely negative response.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Kalashnikov wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

whos complaining? her body is pretty good

miranda is fake, and she works for cerberus <_<


Typical Miri hate.

hey im not hating, im just stating why miranda is unappealing to me. her sex appeal is overexaggerated and nothing about her is genuine.