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#151
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Aihwa wrote...

Page 4, second to last post.


Last post on thread then...

"As for being a "nervous virgen blushing evertime the commander even
spoke to her",  erm, correct me if I'm wrong, but thats usually how
those with a crush act... "

I disagree, that is sometimes the case but Tali was a stronger character than that, she seemed to be acting like a teenager, not an adult streetwise commando.

  "She still strikes me as a mature member of the fleet, on your initial
meeting, she's in full control of the quarian strike team and seems very
confident.  (Until they decide to be sneaky, but meh, minions, what can
you do?)
"

She does have moments of maturity, but her interactions with many characters suggest otherwise. For instance, instead of making a reasonable debate in the argument with legion she flies of the handle and makes herself look like a crazy ****. She lacks maturity in many situations.

"And now we come to the physical relationship.  Now, bioware never really
lets you "**** on a whim", maybe you slept through the layers of
dialauge, but its anything if on a whim.  Sex is part of love, its
always going to happen, it developed along a natural progression, I can
find no fault with it that any of the other relationship options didnt
have.  If anything the "speed" of its development is due to the
"tomorrow we may die" plot point, something quite common in any
fictional wartime romance.
"

Except the progression is unnatural. They seem to be completely mismatched. I can definitely agree that there might be infatuation if the path is pursued but nothing more than that. And I could understand that they might hurry up the relationship, Tali spends weeks planning it and she risk her own life for sex, that argument applies more to the other romances.

#152
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Kalashnikov wrote...

understandable considering its her lifeline <_<
almost all talimancers fell in love with her personality, not her looks. it just shows how well made of a character she is.


This made me laugh! :P

"Talimancers don't like her for her looks..."

Talimancers: "DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS."

#153
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7 pages in an hour.

#154
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Mwahahahahahahahaha!

#155
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Mecha Tengu wrote...

Mukora wrote...

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not complaining.

said I disliked tali due to her rommance

That gives you no fucking excuse to call all of her fans horny nerds...


tell me how many tali fapfics you see on fanfiction then come back to me


You've made a social stereotype from a mere piece of a website notorious around the internet for low-quality writing.

We could come up with some fun ways to lump other people in unfitting stereotypes while we're at it. I've seen several nonsensical Team Fortress 2 mods, therefore all Valve fans are circus clowns. Oh, and those first-person shooter folks? Some of them are really stupid, so the FPS genre is composed of completely brain-dead overly simplistic refuse, Deus Ex be damned.

In other words, the part does not equal the whole--And informing everyone of your generally run-of-the-mill opinion will not help the situation.

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Nightwriter wrote...

Kalashnikov wrote...

understandable considering its her lifeline <_<
almost all talimancers fell in love with her personality, not her looks. it just shows how well made of a character she is.


This made me laugh! :P

"Talimancers don't like her for her looks..."

Talimancers: "DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS."




This made me laugh!Image IPB

#157
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Let's be honest here, if Tali wasn't as popular as she is, you wouldn't have posted this.



You know it, I know it, they know it, and that picture of the irl Tali-doll that so many people like to post know it.



People hate what's popular.



Going against the flow ftw.

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Nightwriter wrote...
This made me laugh! :P

"Talimancers don't like her for her looks..."

Talimancers: "DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS."

trueenough.jpg

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Gamer Xtreme wrote...

I disagree, that is sometimes the case but Tali was a stronger character than that, she seemed to be acting like a teenager, not an adult streetwise commando.


I think this is nothing more than a matter of personal tastes. Some people like cute and shy, some people don't.

I liked Tali's cute and shy more than I liked Liara's (probably because Liara's crush comes out of nowhere whereas Tali has known you for considerably longer, and is more fiery).

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Mukora wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
ok heres another one: 

taken from the fic: "A good day"

I WANT TO GROW OLD WITH YOU TALI
ME TOO SHEPARD

Again, fanfics != entire fanbase.

And every character has fanfics like that for them. That isn't really a point...

mukora i think we're fighting a fruitless battle here <_<

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Water Dumple wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Mukora wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
not complaining.

said I disliked tali due to her rommance

That gives you no fucking excuse to call all of her fans horny nerds...


tell me how many tali fapfics you see on fanfiction then come back to me


You've made a social stereotype from a mere piece of a website notorious around the internet for low-quality writing.

We could come up with some fun ways to lump other people in unfitting stereotypes while we're at it. I've seen several nonsensical Team Fortress 2 mods, therefore all Valve fans are circus clowns. Oh, and those first-person shooter folks? Some of them are really stupid, so the FPS genre is composed of completely brain-dead overly simplistic refuse, Deus Ex be damned.

In other words, the part does not equal the whole--And informing everyone of your generally run-of-the-mill opinion will not help the situation.


ive read some good intelligent fics

but they are drowned by the dozens of other terrible fics, written by those who's usernames are the same as the ones on these forums

and Tf2 mods are bloody fun no matter what

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mukora i think we're fighting a fruitless battle here <_<

You think I don't know that?
I'm bored, and this is fun. Only reason I'm here.

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Kalashnikov wrote...

Mukora wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
ok heres another one: 

taken from the fic: "A good day"

I WANT TO GROW OLD WITH YOU TALI
ME TOO SHEPARD

Again, fanfics != entire fanbase.

And every character has fanfics like that for them. That isn't really a point...

mukora i think we're fighting a fruitless battle here <_<


im losing, everyone here likes Tali >.>

I liked her in ME1, and now I dislike how she is popular jailbait

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

Mukora wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
there once was a fan so obsessed, that he wrote a self insert fanfic where tali fell in love with him

Because that guy totally represents the entire fanbase, correct?


ok heres another one: 

taken from the fic: "A good day"

I WANT TO GROW OLD WITH YOU TALI
ME TOO SHEPARD


Xtreme gets 1 point, you do not.  He's at least cited a little evidence, not just baseless opinions.  All you're doing is harrassing Tali fans.  Not even the character herself.  Try harder bro.

Obsessed fanboy's happen.  Your personal attacks aren't even cleverly disguised. :whistle:

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Mukora wrote...

Kalashnikov wrote...
mukora i think we're fighting a fruitless battle here <_<

You think I don't know that?
I'm bored, and this is fun. Only reason I'm here.


you called me a moron earlier,

I thought u were on the verge of rage?

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Gamer Xtreme wrote...

Last post on thread then...

I disagree, that is sometimes the case but Tali was a stronger character than that, she seemed to be acting like a teenager, not an adult streetwise commando.


She does have moments of maturity, but her interactions with many characters suggest otherwise. For instance, instead of making a reasonable debate in the argument with legion she flies of the handle and makes herself look like a crazy ****. She lacks maturity in many situations.

Except the progression is unnatural. They seem to be completely mismatched. I can definitely agree that there might be infatuation if the path is pursued but nothing more than that. And I could understand that they might hurry up the relationship, Tali spends weeks planning it and she risk her own life for sex, that argument applies more to the other romances.


So, she basically likes like a young adult female in her 20's? Strange..

Also, what other romances progressed naturally and correctly?

There isn't a single romance in the game that *really* went all that in-depth and "naturally", with the exception of MAYBE Liara because of the whole plot-relevant mind-melding thing whatever spacewizardslolz.

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Mecha Tengu wrote...
I liked her in ME1, and now I dislike how she is popular jailbait

Jailbait? She's twenty-four...

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Tali came out of nowhere more than Liara's. Liara was interested in you initially because of your Prothean visions.



Tali comes in after 2 years and says "Yeah, I've got enough fan support to like you now."

#169
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Aihwa wrote...



All you're doing is harrassing Tali fans.  Not even the character herself.  Try harder bro.



did it earlier

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Nightwriter wrote...

Kalashnikov wrote...

understandable considering its her lifeline <_<
almost all talimancers fell in love with her personality, not her looks. it just shows how well made of a character she is.


This made me laugh! :P

"Talimancers don't like her for her looks..."

Talimancers: "DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS DEM HIPS."

once again internet stupidity at its best, had you taken the time to read what i wrote and thought over it, you would have realized what i meant. instead you decided to post this groundless drivel. i applaud your intellect
again: talimancers fell in love with her PERSONALITY, of course we gawk over her ample hips because thats just like a bonus, its her personality that enraptured us all in the first place

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you called me a moron earlier,

I thought u were on the verge of rage?

It takes a lot to make me angry.

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Mecha Tengu wrote...

Kalashnikov wrote...

Mukora wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
ok heres another one: 

taken from the fic: "A good day"

I WANT TO GROW OLD WITH YOU TALI
ME TOO SHEPARD

Again, fanfics != entire fanbase.

And every character has fanfics like that for them. That isn't really a point...

mukora i think we're fighting a fruitless battle here <_<


im losing, everyone here likes Tali >.>

I liked her in ME1, and now I dislike how she is popular jailbait


because females in their 20's are totally jailbait. I'm 22. Total jailbait for me, amirite?

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KainrycKarr wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...

Kalashnikov wrote...

Mukora wrote...

Mecha Tengu wrote...
ok heres another one: 

taken from the fic: "A good day"

I WANT TO GROW OLD WITH YOU TALI
ME TOO SHEPARD

Again, fanfics != entire fanbase.

And every character has fanfics like that for them. That isn't really a point...

mukora i think we're fighting a fruitless battle here <_<


im losing, everyone here likes Tali >.>

I liked her in ME1, and now I dislike how she is popular jailbait


because females in their 20's are totally jailbait. I'm 22. Total jailbait for me, amirite?


pics or you are male

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****** or Gtfo.

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Mecha Tengu wrote...
pics or you are male

Because she's totally going to give some kid over the intenet a picture of herself, right?