Hi guys,
Let me briefly introduce myself. I've recently played through dragon age and have enjoyed the game alot. One of the main things I loved about this game was the dialogue.The effort Bioware spent on this game, especially on the scriptwriting and the voice acting is mindboggling. I think this will set the standards, or at least introduce a new perspective, for games/stories to come.
I'll be honest, I haven't spent much time on these forums. But I've noticed that alot of people are having problems with the supposed "new direction" dragon age 2 is taking. Moreover, there have been talks saying that the writing team is "diva like" and that they think that "this is their story and they think they can do whatever they want with it".
Now I don't see what the problem is with that. I mean, this IS their story, is it not? Just because we played through it, we do not become entitled to the story and have no right to tell the writing team how to write their story. For example, just because you read Hemingway, it doesn't mean you can tell him what to write next (I don't mean to compare Hemingway to Bioware's writing staff, but Bioware has produced its share of wonderful stories over the years). I hope that someone will agree with me that given their success, the writers deserve, at the very least, the right to work on and develop their story in peace.
Few authors release their unfinished work to the public for opinions. While it may be Bioware's intent to ask for fan input, I doubt that the purpose of these forums are to have the fans write the stories or decide on the direction of the stories. I think Bioware is making a very bold decision in having the writer(s) communicate with the fan base directly, in the case of David Gaider and co. I cannot imagine the frustration that these writers have to deal with. Not to mention that the writers would probably have to hide their frustrations for fear of bad press.
Whose story is it anyway?
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, août 05 2010 03:19
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 03:29
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It is Biowares story. They do have this network for fans though, so as long as those fans are respectful and follow the rules, they should be allowed to express their opinion. It's completely up to the devs whether they listen and/or respond to it though. And I can imagine how frustrating it could get, but in a way it must also be flattering that so many people are so passionate about it.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 03:35
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Well that tends to happen when you throw on horns, demonic looking body paint, and long finger nails on a race that was generally heterosexual before, just to "set them apart".
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 03:39
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People don't like change so they're freaking out. It isn't anything new, and I'm sure it'll die down a bit over time. Obviously, Bioware can't please everyone, but we don't have much to go on at this point so people are assuming the worst.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 03:39
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Alright. I'm a staunch BioWare supporter, and the changes don't bother me. However.
This is a video game meant to be bought and enjoyed by consumers. BioWare makes games that we are supposed to be invested in, that we care about, that we want to see continue. People not liking the new direction is to be expected. They have every right to voice their opinions. No matter which way you look at it, if people didn't like what BioWare was doing, the company wouldn't make money, and then they wouldn't make games. Pleasing a fanbase is in their best interest.
That being said, there are only a few people who really hate the direction the game is going. People who are content with it aren't going to serial post in every thread about just how content they are all the time. Don't confuse noise on the forums to mean that's what we as a fanbase prefer.
This is a video game meant to be bought and enjoyed by consumers. BioWare makes games that we are supposed to be invested in, that we care about, that we want to see continue. People not liking the new direction is to be expected. They have every right to voice their opinions. No matter which way you look at it, if people didn't like what BioWare was doing, the company wouldn't make money, and then they wouldn't make games. Pleasing a fanbase is in their best interest.
That being said, there are only a few people who really hate the direction the game is going. People who are content with it aren't going to serial post in every thread about just how content they are all the time. Don't confuse noise on the forums to mean that's what we as a fanbase prefer.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 03:45
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Blumbum wrote...
Well that tends to happen when you throw on horns, demonic looking body paint, and long finger nails on a race that was generally heterosexual before, just to "set them apart".
WTF?
Anyway, I will say that if the devs are deeply frustrated by people's complaints, they are doing a fantastic job of not showing it.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 03:51
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I think that even though the continuity in the appearance of the races is changing, the game itself will still be amazing.
If there's something that I don't like about the game, there's not really anything I can do to change it. I've chosen to play it, I'm along for the ride that Bioware has constructed. It's just that I get to choose which twists and turns the ride takes me on.
If there's something that I don't like about the game, there's not really anything I can do to change it. I've chosen to play it, I'm along for the ride that Bioware has constructed. It's just that I get to choose which twists and turns the ride takes me on.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 03:56
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Definitely BioWare's story. It's in their best interest to make it please as many people as it can, but that doesn't change the fact that it's still theirs. The fact that capitalism is involved doesn't suddenly mean they are working for us. If they want to write a crappy story and sell 0 copies, then so be it. They still don't owe us anything. They're not going to do this though...they have proven their skill.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 04:31
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Saibh wrote...
That being said, there are only a few people who really hate the direction the game is going. People who are content with it aren't going to serial post in every thread about just how content they are all the time. Don't confuse noise on the forums to mean that's what we as a fanbase prefer.
Ah yes. Just like everything else in life, the voices of the malcontents are always the loudest.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 04:34
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In the sense you're asking, yes it is absolutely Bioware's story. I shudder to think what "story by committee" or "story by popular vote" would turn out like. Eugh. I think Bioware's writing team by now has a pretty good idea what critics and fans like to see in a story, and really, how much do any of us know about DA2's story? Not much. Certainly not enough to get all hyperbolic about it.
Yes because this change clearly ruins the plot of all future DA games.
Oh and also, what the hell kind of gay men do *you* hang out with? Sounds kinky.
Blumbum wrote...
Well that tends to happen when you throw on horns, demonic looking body paint, and long finger nails on a race that was generally heterosexual before, just to "set them apart".
Yes because this change clearly ruins the plot of all future DA games.
Oh and also, what the hell kind of gay men do *you* hang out with? Sounds kinky.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 05:07
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Anarya wrote...
I shudder to think what "story by committee" or "story by popular vote" would turn out like.
Well, every single character and npc in the game would be romanceable and your party size would be infinite for starters.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 05:19
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The only "whose story is it anyway" problem that I've had is the devs' insistance that the Warden's story is only about the Blight. Maybe Origins was about the Blight, but the Warden's story does not necessarily end with the Blight, (SPOILERS) particularly for Wardens who did the DR or let the Architect live.
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 05:21
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It's that guy Hawke's story...let's hope it is a good one! 
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Posté 05 août 2010 - 06:42
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Anarya wrote...
In the sense you're asking, yes it is absolutely Bioware's story. I shudder to think what "story by committee" or "story by popular vote" would turn out like. Eugh. I think Bioware's writing team by now has a pretty good idea what critics and fans like to see in a story, and really, how much do any of us know about DA2's story? Not much. Certainly not enough to get all hyperbolic about it.Blumbum wrote...
Well that tends to happen when you throw on horns, demonic looking body paint, and long finger nails on a race that was generally heterosexual before, just to "set them apart".
Yes because this change clearly ruins the plot of all future DA games.
Oh and also, what the hell kind of gay men do *you* hang out with? Sounds kinky.
Come to San Fran and I'll show you sometime
