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[Cypher0020]

While gathering minerals for the Cain- which I finally got and cannot wait to try it on the Thresher Maw  I stumbled onto some Blue Suns missions

Which did you save? the spaceport or the capital city?

I choose to save the city- the colony can be evacuated and rebuilt- saving hundreds of lives.....and I figure the Alliance can get their operations back online anyways


The choice was pretty tough for me. I actually flipped between the two a few times

[Kikaimegami]

This was easy: saved the city. I'm pretty sure it mentions that you save thousands of lives, actually.

[TheGreyGhost119]

Saved the city

[ELE08]

This is the N7: Javelin Missiles Launched mission, right?  I always save the city.  Even my renegade Shepard isn't cold enough to let thousands die just for some material gains, for the Alliance even.  I figure even though it makes the colony unviable, it can be rebuilt.  A thousand dead people are still dead.

[Ralnith]

It's one of the sidequests you get when you scan planets, I don't remember where you get it right.



Anyway, I saved the city. Even if the colony needs to be evacuated after the destruction of the spaceport, there can be no colony without colonists and the infrastructure can be rebuilt. A no-brainer, regardless of character alignment.

[Kikaimegami]

Captain Cornhole.. your avatar is making me hungry.

ELE08 wrote...

This is the N7: Javelin Missiles
Launched mission, right?  I always save the city.  Even my renegade Shepard isn't cold enough to let thousands die just for some material gains, for the Alliance even.  I figure even though it makes the colony unviable, it can be rebuilt.  A thousand dead people are still dead.

I always thought of it as saving the city is the paragon option, saving the spaceport is the renegade one. It makes sense if you think about it.

Modifié par Kikaimegami, 05 août 2010 - 03:28 .

[ELE08]

I agree, and for me it's one of those renegade options that doesn't make any sense. The wiki says there are no morality points assigned either way, but it's been a while since I played.

[Kikaimegami]

ELE08 wrote...

I agree, and for me it's one of those renegade options that doesn't make any sense. The wiki says there are no morality points assigned either way, but it's been a while since I played.

There aren't any points, that's just how I think of it.

[Nightwriter]

Human lives >>>>>>> colonization industry.

[-Severian-]

Mmm... not so clear cut as you all make out. Without the spaceport, it massively hinders Alliance operations in the area, and by clear extension, their ability to defend the planet and system from attack, pirates, slavers...



Basically, with the space port destroyed, the entire system is at risk and many thousands more could die. It's a classic case of "lose a few to save many" that is the usual renegade decision.

[Cypher0020]

really? hmmm...



finding these N7 missions by planet scanning still confuses me...

[Peridian]

It isn't clear how many lives you do save. At some point it's hundreds, at another it say thousands.
And any explanation saying "The spaceport would be useless without the people anyway" just doesn't get the point of the situation. That's just a justification for wanting to save the people.

Besides, I find it highly unlikely that they'd let the spaceport completely unmanned. Just how big is the spaceport? How many people will you kill by carelessly make the choice of saving lives? Besides, wasn't the colony supposed to be strategically important? And the colony would have to be evacuated, no rebuilding.

Actually, I think we're not given enough information to make a truly honest decision here. It felt like it was added last minute. Perhaps it's just me but I think there's more to it than just not wanting to start over.

Modifié par Peridian, 05 août 2010 - 03:49 .

[JaegerBane]

City, every time. The Systems Alliance Navy was founded to defend humanity, not to worry about economics. If my Shep wanted to be Udina he would have went into politics.

-Severian- wrote...

Mmm... not so clear cut as you all make out. Without the spaceport, it massively hinders Alliance operations in the area, and by clear extension, their ability to defend the planet and system from attack, pirates, slavers...

Basically, with the space port destroyed, the entire system is at risk and many thousands more could die. It's a classic case of "lose a few to save many" that is the usual renegade decision.

It's got nothing to do with 'alliance operations in the area'. It's to do with keeping the colony viable and by extension, increasing humanity's galatic influence. This isn't a 'sacrifice a few to save the many' decision. It's basically putting the human economy ahead of human lives.

It's up to the player to decide what they consider to be most important... but let's not cover up the actual reasoning here.

[Kid_SixXx]

Easier to rebuild a spaceport or relocate it somewhere else than it is to replace a city.



Not a very difficult decision.

[ThisIsMadness91]

Nightwriter wrote...

Human lives >>>>>>> colonization industry.

Quoted for truth.

[Nightwriter]

Peridian wrote...

It isn't clear how many lives you do save. At some point it's hundreds, at another it say thousands.
And any explanation saying "The spaceport would be useless without the people anyway" just doesn't get the point of the situation. That's just a justification for wanting to save the people.

... Do we really need justification for wanting to save lives?

Peridian wrote...

Besides, I find it highly unlikely that they'd let the spaceport completely unmanned. Just how big is the spaceport? How many people will you kill by carelessly make the choice of saving lives? Besides, wasn't the colony supposed to be strategically important? And the colony would have to be evacuated, no rebuilding.

Actually, I think we're not given enough information to make a truly honest decision here. It felt like it was added last minute. Perhaps it's just me but I think there's more to it than just not wanting to start over.

I've thought along these lines as well. Was the spaceport deserted? Why would it be empty? Was everyone sheltering in the residential areas in preparation for the attack?

Well, regardless, loss of life is uncertain with the spaceport. With the colony, it is assurred.

[amcnow]

This one ranks up there with the Overlord "renegade" choice. I'm just not cold-blooded enough to do it. I save the city; everytime.

[Mercuriol]

Always the spaceport. Knowing with what you will be up against it's irresponsible saving a couple of thousand lives for a smaller chance of the entire galaxy surviving (ofc it won't work that way in ME3, but that's besides the point).

Modifié par Mercuriol, 05 août 2010 - 04:00 .

[JaegerBane]

Peridian wrote...
Besides, I find it highly unlikely that they'd let the spaceport completely unmanned. Just how big is the spaceport? How many people will you kill by carelessly make the choice of saving lives?

Less than you'd 'kill' by allowing the city to be hit. Unless you're implying that there's more people in the spaceport than there is in the city, for some reason.

[JaegerBane]

Mercuriol wrote...

Always the spaceport. Knowing with what you will be up against it's irresponsible saving a couple of thousand lives for a smaller chance of the entire galaxy surviving (ofc it won't work that way in ME3, but that's besides the point).

And, by the same token, what exactly do you think you will gain against the Reapers by making sure a colony is economcially viable?

What you up against is neither here nor there.

[Kronner]

I save the spaceport everytime, saving few thousand people is not worth losing strategic position against the Batarians (hate those fookers).

[Ulathar]

I've only done this mission once (with my main) and I saved the spaceport.

[Nightwriter]

Mercuriol wrote...

Always the spaceport. Knowing with what you will be up against it's irresponsible saving a couple of thousand lives for a smaller chance of the entire galaxy surviving (ofc it won't work that way in ME3, but that's besides the point).

Oh goodness. You have to forgive me for that, I wasn't trying to be confrontational, I swear.

I just get these joke ideas in my head and - and I must do them!