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BioWare's Official Dragon Age 2 Podcast Episode 2: Art Director Matt Goldman (August 5, 2010)


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SirOccam wrote...

Here's a transcript I typed up...hopefully I didn't make too many errors. I'll start putting some of the info into the list after I ice my fingers a bit. :P

https://docs.google....nJ6dzd4aw&hl=en

Thank you so much for this.

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So... changing the art style was really a MARKETING DECISION! F***ing great... "It doesn't really pop right out the page"... Personally I though that was a good thing. Whatever...

Forget the other stuff, those may change. But like I said on a another thread, the new art style is pretty much set in stone. I don't have to play the game to see this change, I've already seen in on Hawke's ridiculous armor and the other screenshots (or whomever it belongs to, I hope to the Queen's arse that I can change it!). At this point I couldn't care less for rebuttals...

Whatever, they haven't lost a customer anyways...

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Majin Paul wrote...

I'll be listening to the new one tomorrow morning.
Shame they aren't downloadable, it'd be good to listen to when walking to work.

There's a direct link to the mp3 there. Here it is:



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Could someone add links to the new concept art on the original "What We KNOW" post, please? Also, links to Cassandra and Varric's art would be good, too.

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Nononono, NO NIGHT ELF EARS =(

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SirOccam wrote...

Here's a transcript I typed up...hopefully I didn't make too many errors. I'll start putting some of the info into the list after I ice my fingers a bit. :P

https://docs.google....nJ6dzd4aw&hl=en


many thanks for your work

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David Gaider wrote...

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What is Lady Hawke's name?!? Graaaar Bioware why do you do this to us girl players? *cry*

You want the female Hawke's default name?

Marian.

This will cause some laughter in the Polish version, given "Marian" is male name there.

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tmp7704 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Anarya wrote...
What is Lady Hawke's name?!? Graaaar Bioware why do you do this to us girl players? *cry*

You want the female Hawke's default name?

Marian.

This will cause some laughter in the Polish version, given "Marian" is male name there.


They'll probably change it. And how male is male? Elliot or Charlie or Chris are all male names here, but we allow them to be used on girls, too.

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tmp7704 wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

Anarya wrote...
What is Lady Hawke's name?!? Graaaar Bioware why do you do this to us girl players? *cry*

You want the female Hawke's default name?

Marian.

This will cause some laughter in the Polish version, given "Marian" is male name there.


Really? I didn't know that. Do they not do the trendy "naming your girl child a boy name" thing in Poland?

I kind of feel bad for boys. Girls keep stealing all their names. 

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Saibh wrote...

They'll probably change it. And how male is male? Elliot or Charlie or Chris are all male names here, but we allow them to be used on girls, too.

Male to the point only males get it. If i'm not mistaken it's an equivalent of female name Maria which in turn is Polish version of "Mary".

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tmp7704 wrote...

Saibh wrote...

They'll probably change it. And how male is male? Elliot or Charlie or Chris are all male names here, but we allow them to be used on girls, too.

Male to the point only males get it. If i'm not mistaken it's an equivalent of female name Maria which in turn is Polish version of "Mary".


It's a diminuitive of Mary, apparently. In English anyway.

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wow a female qunari thought they might be uglier and the male dwarves look fatter and the elves look.... unchanged



this male qunari looks more like sten then the other one on the forum

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Victor Wachter wrote...

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Hmmm looks like elves aren't really smaller than humans anymore ? merely thinner.


Images are not necessarily to scale.

Well then, if they are "not necessarily" to scale then are they or are they not to scale? In other words, are the DA2 elves the same size they're in DAO, or bigger, or smaller?

The way the presented concept art is now, there's very little "distinct racial physiology" in the elves, compared to humans right next to them. Especially the females which, if it wasn't for the ears, appear nearly identical. But even for the males it doesn't seem to extend beyond little less developed musculature. If their overall size is also made similar to humans then i'd have to say, the end effect is opposite of what the developers claim they're trying to achieve. The new "race appearance" is less distinct than the old one (if taken at face value i.e. presuming these are actually reasonably close to scale) and it also does nothing to make DA look specific and distinguishable from other games -- if anything, it instead invites comments about Lineage 2:

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joriandrake wrote...

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where is her Tail? :pinched:

What?

I thought qunari are supposed to have horns but I never heard of tails :?


Tali is a charter form another Biower game call Mass Effect and she has nice hips so I think that what he was talking about, the femal Qunari dosent have sexy hips

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Victor Wachter wrote...Let's just put this line of argument to rest. The purpose of the concept art is to demonstrate the base body, before you put clothes and armor and whatnot on it. Nobody is running around like they are in the concept art, and our men do own shirts.


Should I take this to mean female humans and elfs fight in high heels? Because I cannot help but notice they are both standing with their feet in the high heel Barbie feet position. Please. I beg you. Don't do that to us. It was good that the women in Dragon Age wore real armor, just like the men. Please, please, please don't high-heel-ify us. :(

Otherwise I like the concept art, except it makes me sad I can't be a dwarf. :crying:

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Adriano87 wrote...

I want Half-Elf Character, like mine in NWN.


In Dragon Age if a human and a elf mate and have a child, the child will always be human

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Sjofn wrote...

Should I take this to mean female humans and elfs fight in high heels? Because I cannot help but notice they are both standing with their feet in the high heel Barbie feet position. Please. I beg you. Don't do that to us. It was good that the women in Dragon Age wore real armor, just like the men. Please, please, please don't high-heel-ify us. :(


Ah, but high heels are marketable! The focus testing proves it!  Every female in games has to have built in high heels no matter how absurd it looks!:sick:

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Sjofn wrote...

 

Victor Wachter wrote...Let's just put this line of argument to rest. The purpose of the concept art is to demonstrate the base body, before you put clothes and armor and whatnot on it. Nobody is running around like they are in the concept art, and our men do own shirts.


Should I take this to mean female humans and elfs fight in high heels? Because I cannot help but notice they are both standing with their feet in the high heel Barbie feet position. Please. I beg you. Don't do that to us. It was good that the women in Dragon Age wore real armor, just like the men. Please, please, please don't high-heel-ify us. :(

Otherwise I like the concept art, except it makes me sad I can't be a dwarf. :crying:


No I think that's just an artist thing. It makes feet and legs look more graceful for women and it's harder to draw a foot from a frontal or 3/4 view if it's planted on the ground and make it look nice. Men's feet are easier to do flat because they're bulkier.

My 2 cents as someone who draws. Sometimes.

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Anarya wrote...

Sjofn wrote...

 

Victor Wachter wrote...Let's just put this line of argument to rest. The purpose of the concept art is to demonstrate the base body, before you put clothes and armor and whatnot on it. Nobody is running around like they are in the concept art, and our men do own shirts.


Should I take this to mean female humans and elfs fight in high heels? Because I cannot help but notice they are both standing with their feet in the high heel Barbie feet position. Please. I beg you. Don't do that to us. It was good that the women in Dragon Age wore real armor, just like the men. Please, please, please don't high-heel-ify us. :(

Otherwise I like the concept art, except it makes me sad I can't be a dwarf. :crying:


No I think that's just an artist thing. It makes feet and legs look more graceful for women and it's harder to draw a foot from a frontal or 3/4 view if it's planted on the ground and make it look nice. Men's feet are easier to do flat because they're bulkier.

My 2 cents as someone who draws. Sometimes.


And yet it was managed with the female qunari and dwarf. There's no real need to make the female elf and human stand the way they are.

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fredward55 wrote...

joriandrake wrote...

Adriano87 wrote...

where is her Tail? :pinched:

What?

I thought qunari are supposed to have horns but I never heard of tails :?


Tali is a charter form another Biower game call Mass Effect and she has nice hips so I think that what he was talking about, the femal Qunari dosent have sexy hips

Dyslexia...u has it

:P

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Sjofn wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Sjofn wrote...

 

Victor Wachter wrote...Let's just put this line of argument to rest. The purpose of the concept art is to demonstrate the base body, before you put clothes and armor and whatnot on it. Nobody is running around like they are in the concept art, and our men do own shirts.


Should I take this to mean female humans and elfs fight in high heels? Because I cannot help but notice they are both standing with their feet in the high heel Barbie feet position. Please. I beg you. Don't do that to us. It was good that the women in Dragon Age wore real armor, just like the men. Please, please, please don't high-heel-ify us. :(

Otherwise I like the concept art, except it makes me sad I can't be a dwarf. :crying:


No I think that's just an artist thing. It makes feet and legs look more graceful for women and it's harder to draw a foot from a frontal or 3/4 view if it's planted on the ground and make it look nice. Men's feet are easier to do flat because they're bulkier.

My 2 cents as someone who draws. Sometimes.


And yet it was managed with the female qunari and dwarf. There's no real need to make the female elf and human stand the way they are.

Their feet are a lot closer to men's feet than elf or human females' feet are. Bulkier, and so forth. At least that's my guess...I really know next to nothing about art.

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Sjofn wrote...

Anarya wrote...

Sjofn wrote...

 

Victor Wachter wrote...Let's just put this line of argument to rest. The purpose of the concept art is to demonstrate the base body, before you put clothes and armor and whatnot on it. Nobody is running around like they are in the concept art, and our men do own shirts.


Should I take this to mean female humans and elfs fight in high heels? Because I cannot help but notice they are both standing with their feet in the high heel Barbie feet position. Please. I beg you. Don't do that to us. It was good that the women in Dragon Age wore real armor, just like the men. Please, please, please don't high-heel-ify us. :(

Otherwise I like the concept art, except it makes me sad I can't be a dwarf. :crying:


No I think that's just an artist thing. It makes feet and legs look more graceful for women and it's harder to draw a foot from a frontal or 3/4 view if it's planted on the ground and make it look nice. Men's feet are easier to do flat because they're bulkier.

My 2 cents as someone who draws. Sometimes.


And yet it was managed with the female qunari and dwarf. There's no real need to make the female elf and human stand the way they are.


The dwarf's feet you are also looking down on from a higher angle so you avoid that problem. The Qunari has shoes on. It's easy to do with shoes, especially ones with a simple silhouette as hers have. Believe me or not, whatever. I'm just saying I would probably have done the same and it wouldn't have meant I thought she was wearing heels.

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Anacronian Stryx wrote...

*heart* the male dwarfs man-boobs...


Yes but there manly man-boobs

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I like the new concepts for the races. But there's one thing that bugs me and that's the female elf's nose. It's just so... "off" in my opinion.

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If everything goes by the concept art then I'll be very happy.

Yay about: the female Qunari and elves don't just look like short humans with a tiny point on their ears (I love the nose bridge).

I do hope that the textures for the eyes vary by race this time. Would like to see at least one of the races with a smaller/larger than average pupil. Also hope that the elves stay roughly the same height as they were in the last game. Unless the elves of the Free Marches diet allows them to grow taller meaning in the last game we were just see the result of poor nutrient in the last game. It's possible, they were second class citizens.

For the artists though, the female humans and elves do seem to have misplaced their ribcage. :o

Modifié par ArjunaAle, 06 août 2010 - 12:45 .