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[Nighwolfa]

I think breaking the boundrys that morrigan puts up is a challenge in itself and people seek reward for there troubles

[Jarlof Seoul]

asaiasai wrote...

trying_touch wrote...

asaiasai wrote...

Sorry to say this BUT Morrigan's story IS ... I hate Morrigan, you're all losers for liking her.

Asai

DLC's great... but it's not enough time to see the dragon-baby grow up and eat its mother...

i doubt bioware will make her killable... at the most, as killable as flemeth's dragon form was...

I do not hate Morrigan i do dislike Morrigan's character as i believe your supposed to. I believe Morrigan is the villian of the story and i have laid out my points to support this on many occasions, but it is like talking religion to a believer, you can make all the sense you want but there is no accounting for people's tastes. I think a DLC is perfect for a fit for a simple option for a simple character. But as many of you folks are begging for what is your perfect happy ending all i am saying is how about giving me my happy ending, i am rooting for you to get yours, why can there never be any reciprocity concerning mine?

Asai 

Fair enough. I can understand that, putting myself in your shoes.

[Nighwolfa]

Well knowing the way the game is setup for changes affect different concicenses, i would think they would implement alternatives to the romance. There are many different ways the game can go so why would the ending be any different. It would most likely be alternate ending if you choose the other route.

[Nighwolfa]

Guess i will try out the Awakening exp, while morrigan is looking around the map, Hopefully she does not forget this warden

Modifié par Nighwolfa, 07 août 2010 - 01:08 .

[TheLion36]

asaiasai wrote...

Sorry to say this BUT Morrigan's story IS finished unless you do the Dark Ritual. I really hope the developers give you fans your closure to the Morrigan story prefferably in some DLC content just before DA2 so you can get it out of your systems. And being fair the DLC needs to have a way to finally end the Morrigan story by a sword through the abdomen, followed by a nice litle cut scene of her bleeding out and the shine fading from her eyes, followed by an simple boot to the back to roll the waste of flesh into shallow unmarked grave. That is a happy ending.

Asai

Wouldn't call Morrigan's story finished, even if you don't pick the DR path... She still ends up leaving with lots of questions unanswered.
Personally I always liked the Aribeth fight at the end of Neverwinter Nights were you had a chance to sway her back over to your side... Of course this whole venture was kinda made pointless by the epilogue stating she was hanged regardless.

I won't start a discussion about Morrigans reasoning or behaviour here, touched that subject in enough topics... Lets just say I disagree with your point of view of her and that I would very much like a happier ending with her! 

[Nighwolfa]

Wouldnt we all!!

[Jarlof Seoul]

TheLion36 wrote...

asaiasai wrote...

Sorry to say this BUT Morrigan's story IS finished unless you do the Dark Ritual. I really hope the developers give you fans your closure to the Morrigan story prefferably in some DLC content just before DA2 so you can get it out of your systems. And being fair the DLC needs to have a way to finally end the Morrigan story by a sword through the abdomen, followed by a nice litle cut scene of her bleeding out and the shine fading from her eyes, followed by an simple boot to the back to roll the waste of flesh into shallow unmarked grave. That is a happy ending.

Asai

Wouldn't call Morrigan's story finished, even if you don't pick the DR path... She still ends up leaving with lots of questions unanswered.
Personally I always liked the Aribeth fight at the end of Neverwinter Nights were you had a chance to sway her back over to your side... Of course this whole venture was kinda made pointless by the epilogue stating she was hanged regardless.

I won't start a discussion about Morrigans reasoning or behaviour here, touched that subject in enough topics... Lets just say I disagree with your point of view of her and that I would very much like a happier ending with her! 

This Morri fan agrees!

[Nighwolfa]

Ive just started playing the expansion and immediately im feeling lost without morrigan *cries*

[Smithel]

The expansion doesnt have much thats for sure

[UberDuber]

Nighwolfa wrote...

Ive just started playing the expansion and immediately im feeling lost without morrigan *cries*

I know that bums lol, but put it this way BioWare said that us Morrigan fans wont be disapointed so if they dont give us Morrigan at some point this year ....we rage on these forums so hard!!!

[Nighwolfa]

Morrigan well see the warden again im sure of it

[Nighwolfa]

will*

[asaiasai]

The interesting thing about Morrigan's character is that she can be interpreted as either heroine or villian, and no amount of facts presented will ever sway the contrary opinion. The reason for that is there are none, just feelings, opinions and i do recognize that mine are in the minority. I think that regardless of how Morrigan was meant to be presented due to the over whelming fan love Bioware kind of painted themselves in the corner. If Morrigan as i suspect was meant to be the villianess i do not think Bioware can stay true to that character design at this point with out offending the Morrigan fans. As a villian Morrigan is a great character, as the sympathetic "I have always relied on the kindness of strangers" type of character she fell way short. I do agree with a previous poster who said there are two types of Morrigan fans, and i ask you folks to really seriously consider this; If Morrigan looked like Flemeth, how many of you would be begging for another dip in that pond? Before you go any further answer that question honestly.



Alot of you folks want resolution to the Morrigan "situation" but the developers have already provided that by the option for player to refuse the dark ritual. The only thing that makes Morrigan relevant is if the player chooses to do the dark ritual, then and only then is there a loose end. It is a player created loose end but other than that, continuing the Morrigan story has no point or no more of a point than continuing Sten's, or Wynne's, or Oghren's, see where i am going with this? The only option at this point is for the developers to force canon on the player and that has been clearly stated at least for DA2 not going to happen.



I do have to admit that upon finally understanding that Morrigan is the villian of the story has made me revisit my earlier opinions concerning her character. I do not have any problems with Morrigan DLC that takes liberties with the story, kind of like an alternative universe thing like DSC where the the dark ritual is canon and the player can live out thier happy ending in Far Far Away Land. The only thing that could even remotely convince me to buy it, or really anything at this point concerning Morrigan, is if i am afforded the options to treat her as the villian i believe her to be.



So bring it on, just so long as i get my trudge up a villian filled frosty mountainside. To arrive at a castle made out of the skulls of her victims. I want an epic battle followed upon her defeat i want a slow hanging by her own entrails until the light fades from her eyes, tossing her body and that of her demon spawn onto a very large and hot fire. I want my closure too, or at least the opportunity to finish the final task my warden was remiss in by letting her slip away in the first place. One final task i must finish before i wake up one morning and yell "I am the bat!" and go running off into the deep roads with my hands waving in the air.



Asai

[Nighwolfa]

Even if u refused the Dark promise she still runs off, so still an open story. as to being a villan isnt she meant to be exactly what the player chooses her to be, just cuz she has "feelings" doesnt make her any less hard in her ways, i think most people enjoy the challenge of trying to woo her



But i agree there should be an alternate way for people who just want to kill her.



But thats the same way the game has been all the way thru you make the choices to what effect you want of the story, so finding morrigan should be no different, its like marmite u either love it or u hate it aslong as they give the option for the both love/hate i dont see why people would mind her returning.

[Jarlof Seoul]

UberDuber wrote...

Nighwolfa wrote...

Ive just started playing the expansion and immediately im feeling lost without morrigan *cries*

I know that bums lol, but put it this way BioWare said that us Morrigan fans wont be disapointed so if they dont give us Morrigan at some point this year ....we rage on these forums so hard!!!

I'm so pumped up by your post I just let out a WAR CRY!

[Jarlof Seoul]

Nighwolfa wrote...

Even if u refused the Dark promise she still runs off, so still an open story. as to being a villan isnt she meant to be exactly what the player chooses her to be, just cuz she has "feelings" doesnt make her any less hard in her ways, i think most people enjoy the challenge of trying to woo her

But i agree there should be an alternate way for people who just want to kill her.

But thats the same way the game has been all the way thru you make the choices to what effect you want of the story, so finding morrigan should be no different, its like marmite u either love it or u hate it aslong as they give the option for the both love/hate i dont see why people would mind her returning.

Come to think of it...even if one refused DR (I didn't), but romanced her to the point of sharing tent, she could still have been pregrant, unlikely as it may be for a Grey Warden, thus keeping th story open...

[asaiasai]

What i do not get is how Morrigan running off no child in the picture is any more of a story worth finishing than any of the others. Just because it is Morrigan is not enough there has to be some compelling reason to chase after her, for me the only reason would be because evil is still on the loose, for others it is because "I love her". With out the dark ritual there is no other reason since it can be refused by the player that makes it entirely optional. I am not trying to be an ass, i just do not understand why it is more important to find out what happens to her as opposed to any of the other characters. Leliana, Allistair, or Zeveran are just as compelling characters with out the emotional baggage that Morrigan has unless emotional baggage equates with depth. If it is just because we want to know what happens next, lets have follow ups for all the characters not just Morrigan. I am just saying, and i do realize that any Morrigan story follow up is going to be a big win for Bioware ( i will wait before i buy it so that i can see if i get my happy ending) but are they going to tell the Morrigan story or is the story going to be about Bioware and the "quest for more money"?



Asai

[Nighwolfa]

Yeh ofc, but ive got her to the point, she cares for the warden and now refuses to share a tent 100%(Love) :/ so all i get now is lip action

[-The Warden-]

thenemesis77 wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Havent they already said they are NOT done with Morrigan?

What he said, man just be cool about it, shes not gone for good, her and the warden are on trip around the world.

I agree with this they have said that shes going to be coming back, personally I would like to see her in Dragon Age 2 but not in the sense that shes with this Hawke guy, Warden and Morrigan storyline all the way for me!

[Nighwolfa]

aslong as they do it properly its all good

[TheLion36]

asaiasai wrote...
What i do not get is how Morrigan running off no child in the picture is any more of a story worth finishing than any of the others.

Because even without the Dark Ritual there are a lot of questions unanswered and situations unsolved. For example the whole Flemeth situation. At the end we still don't know if Flemeth is actually death if you killed her, or what happens if you didn't...
We also don't know why she leaves regardless of ritual or not... She doesn't leave cause she's finished with the warden, if you're her friend or lover, she really has a hard time leaving you behind, but does so anyways while hinting that something is really important for her (to me it always felt it was bigger than herself, whether that is good or bad I'll leave in the middle). So we would all really like to find out what was so important...
Of course wether or not you do the ritual, you also never figure out what it was intended for, which remains interesting even if declined.

I can't remember if the option "I'm going to find Morrigan", is offered if you don't do the Dark Ritual, but that's also part of the reason why many of us feel its not finished yet... We're still out there looking for her... ritual or not! 

She was also the only companion that wasn't at the final celebrations. With all the other companion we had our chance to speak with them after the final battle, learning what they were planning and what they were going to do next. With Morrigan we never had that chance, which of course boils down the same point as unanswered questions / unfinished business mentioned before.

Just like Flemeth always talks in mysteries and every answer she provides you, generates more questions, so is the Morrigan situation.

On the romantic side, we are left behind without ever been given a reason... If you don't do the ritual she leaves most likely angered. Why she's angry over this is a topic for other threads, but regardless she leaves and we get no chance to make up with her.
If you do the ritual, she also leaves, there's no real breakup and one can wonder if the relationship is still ongoing or not, but again we get no chance to a happy ending or any type of other ending, she just leaves and the only option we get is to run after her... In romantic movies, when the guy runs after the girl (or vice versa) that's usually only the beginning of the finale, not the finale itself!

With most of the other characters, especially the romancable once, most questions are answered about their past, their intentions and most of  them have closure (altough to be honest I would love to see more of most the companions). We know all about Leliana and we even had a DLC giving us even more insight into her psychy and when romanced I believe she travels along with the warden.
Alistair, well we know all about him and he has several endings most of them giving closure.
Zevhran I believe choses to travel with the warden, whether you romance him or not... Granted his past is slightly a mystery but nothing that directly involves the warden or his choices.
Sten is also surrounded in mystery, but mainly on his history and his people and therefore not directly on areas linked to our warden and at the end of the story he goes back home. I also wouldn't be suprised if we saw more of him at some point when the Qunari invade, but since there's no romance option with him, the chance encounter him with our original warden is of less importance (not saying it wouldn't be a nice option however).

asaiasai wrote...
 I do agree with a previous poster who said there are two types of Morrigan fans, and i ask you folks to really seriously consider this; If Morrigan looked like Flemeth, how many of you would be begging for another dip in that pond? Before you go any further answer that question honestly. 

I would definately be!  Its not Morrigan's looks, its her whole character that makes her interesting, just like Flemeth is interesting. I think most Morrigan fans are just as interested in Flemeth, there's an aura of mystery surrounding both of them which makes them interesting and gives them the feel that there's got to be more on the horizon for them.
The most interesting part about Morrigan to me aren't her looks, but is her personality... I really like her way of thinking. Lets call it practical!  

Flemeth is just requested a lot less because she was no romance option and the binding we have with Flemeth is much weaker cause she appears only very short in origins, yet enough to make a huge impression and enough mystery and questions to leave us wanting more. I'm still trying to figure out what she told (or did with) Maric in "The Stolen Throne". As some have suggested Morrigan could be the result of this encounter, which would only make her more interesting...

Modifié par TheLion36, 08 août 2010 - 02:25 .

[Nighwolfa]

I see alot of reason there why the story is far from finished, which is the reason i made this thread i would also like to see these things, to have the closure, and by all you guys support and comments i see you all want this too, but as months go on and DA2 issues and development my hope of a ending to this fades, which is a shame.

[Dragonageloverrr]

i aint no different then any other morrigan fan thats wants her to return to the warden but i think it would be kinda cool if hawke meets morrigan and morrigans is always talking about warden and how she wishes she would of never left him because i cant pay child support and my house payment is 2 much

[Teddie Sage]

You know, guys... There could always be a DLC where we see what happens to Morrigan in DA:O. That's always a possibility.

[Duke Mathias]

David Gaider wrote...

"Always leave them wanting more."

Closure is for suckers.

I hate you so much