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[Nighwolfa]

C'mon guys, lets have more ending stories, so maybe Mike will look and go aye, that could work

[soundchaser721]

The suspense is killing me!

Modifié par soundchaser721, 11 août 2010 - 01:34 .

[steelfire_dragon]

I was out back in vthe woods,and watchd some blackhaired woamn get mauled by a big old bear that became an old woman.

Morrigan is dead,flemeth whacked her.

I have it on tape


and have it on makertube on the mgaic web of theldas


game over she's not alive

[Palathas]

David Gaider wrote...

"Always leave them wanting more."

Closure is for suckers.

Yes, there are two types of people in the world, those that need closure......

[SirOccam]

Palathas wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

"Always leave them wanting more."

Closure is for suckers.

Yes, there are two types of people in the world, those that need closure......

And? AND??? WHAT'S THE OTHER TYPE???!! TELL ME NOW!

[hurricaneez1]

At this point I will take a DLC allowing my warden to go find Morrigan. I dont care what Gaider says....I need closure. And if it has to be thru a DLC so be it.

I continue to believe, however, that it is foolish to choose to make a series of games with different protagonist when you have the ability to create an epic storyline like Bioware is doing with Mass Effect. Just doesnt make sense to me.

Modifié par hurricaneez1, 12 août 2010 - 12:20 .

[Shadow_Archer]

ok, is it jsut me or is everyone missing a massive portion of the story.....

Addressing "not finding morrigan"... at the end of DA: Origins it says she was sighted at the frostback mountains heading north? if i remember correctly... so yes you do have some direction of where she is going....

And i think when it comes to the child.... throughout the whole game, as flemeth says morrigan is purely using you unfortuantly... you got flemeths grimoire for morrigan... meaning that she can "eat" her children to gain her power now just as flemeth did with all morrigans sisters.... morrigan throughout the game is power hungry, i see it as no suprise that she will consume her god child for her own power... THEREFOR becoming a god herself in essence...

So i do believe they will continue her story as the new "archdemon" if you will.. its just how they do it and when they will do it.. simple as that


Oh and also to add. morrigan persists on saying that flemeth is still out there and says severel times im prepared to "kill her again and even again if i have to".
so flemeth will also be part of this story....

Who knows, in a DA to come you might play as morrigan hunting flemeth or visa versa??

Modifié par Shadow_Archer, 12 août 2010 - 06:36 .

[TheLion36]

Shadow_Archer wrote...
ok, is it jsut me or is everyone missing a massive portion of the story.....

I think a lot of us have been avoiding this discussion, since most topics on Morrigan go in this direction and it has already been discussed endlessly on the forums. Besides this thread is about finishing her story, not about her intentions.

In the large gamble that replying to some of your post doesn't unleash these discussions, here we go...

Shadow_Archer wrote...
Addressing "not finding morrigan"... at the end of DA: Origins it says she was sighted at the frostback mountains heading north? if i remember correctly... so yes you do have some direction of where she is going....

She's seen traveling west through the Frostback Mountains... There's a huge amount of land on the other side of the mountains however, at least the size of Ferelden itself.  

Shadow_Archer wrote...
And i think when it comes to the child.... throughout the whole game, as flemeth says morrigan is purely using you unfortuantly... you got flemeths grimoire for morrigan... meaning that she can "eat" her children to gain her power now just as flemeth did with all morrigans sisters.... morrigan throughout the game is power hungry, i see it as no suprise that she will consume her god child for her own power... THEREFOR becoming a god herself in essence...

If I remember correctly, and its been a few months since I last did a full playthrough, the only time Flemeth tells you that Morrigan is using you (for her dirty work) is when you arrive at her hut and tell her that you know how she has been extending her lifespan. The major question there is who is telling the truth, is Morrigan truthfull about what she found in the Grimoire (ergo that Flemeth will take over her body) or is Flemeth truthfull saying that Morrigan is only using you to get rid of Flemeth. Many of us believe that Morrigan didn't lie about the body-snatching since we found the robes of possession... Of course there's no reason Morrigan can't use you to get rid of Flemeth and be truthfull about the body-snatching...
Morrigan also says at some point that taking over the body of another to extend your lifespan is unnatural and she even claims she would never do it. Whether you believe her or not is of course again in the eye of the beholder.

I would also like to point out that it has been more or less confirmed that Morrigan does indeed care for the warden either as a friend or a lover (depending on the choices) through "The Revelation" comic series( http://blog.bioware....velation-comic/ ). Which could have an effect on her in the long run.

There's one large (possible) flaw with the theory that Morrigan will take over the godchild to increase her own power. Being that every piece of information we have regarding souls / demons invading bodies indicates that no two souls can inhabit the same body. Considering the child carries the soul of an old god, means that if Morrigan would take over the child she would replace that soul with her own, which wouldn't make the practice much different from using a regular child.
She also promised no harm would come to the child, but again whether you believe this is up to the player.
To me, this solution also seems very predictable and like I stated possibly flawed... which is why I expect they'll build in an interesting twist somewhere along the road!

But again lets try not to turn this thread into a discussion about her reasoning etc... There's several threads on the forums talking about that already, some with very interesting and in-depth ideas and theories! 

Modifié par TheLion36, 12 août 2010 - 07:45 .

[TheLion36]

hurricaneez1 wrote...
I continue to believe, however, that it is foolish to choose to make a series of games with different protagonist when you have the ability to create an epic storyline like Bioware is doing with Mass Effect. Just doesnt make sense to me.

Exactly my thought!  

One of the coolest things of Mass Effect is that the story continues and people are on the edges of their seats for the next installment to find out how the story continues!  Its so much fun to run into Tali, Liara or Garrus in Mass Effect 2... Heck it was even fun to see Ashley again and be "shouted" at!  I can't wait for part 3 to see what effect my choices have an who'll be in my team!  
Dragon Age had the same feel to it, with all the choices and stuff, as if they were planning more for the warden's story!  

[Kenrae]

TheLion36 wrote...

hurricaneez1 wrote...
I continue to believe, however, that it is foolish to choose to make a series of games with different protagonist when you have the ability to create an epic storyline like Bioware is doing with Mass Effect. Just doesnt make sense to me.

Exactly my thought!  

Not mine .

Nothing against it, but I've read many series of novels were the "protagonist" isn't a person but a country/empire/family/etc. and loved them. Issac Asimov's "Foundation" comes to mind. It can be great if done well.

[Jarlof Seoul]

TheLion36 wrote...

Shadow_Archer wrote...
ok, is it jsut me or is everyone missing a massive portion of the story.....

I think a lot of us have been avoiding this discussion, since most topics on Morrigan go in this direction and it has already been discussed endlessly on the forums. Besides this thread is about finishing her story, not about her intentions.

In the large gamble that replying to some of your post doesn't unleash these discussions, here we go...

Shadow_Archer wrote...
Addressing "not finding morrigan"... at the end of DA: Origins it says she was sighted at the frostback mountains heading north? if i remember correctly... so yes you do have some direction of where she is going....

She's seen traveling west through the Frostback Mountains... There's a huge amount of land on the other side of the mountains however, at least the size of Ferelden itself.  

Shadow_Archer wrote...
And i think when it comes to the child.... throughout the whole game, as flemeth says morrigan is purely using you unfortuantly... you got flemeths grimoire for morrigan... meaning that she can "eat" her children to gain her power now just as flemeth did with all morrigans sisters.... morrigan throughout the game is power hungry, i see it as no suprise that she will consume her god child for her own power... THEREFOR becoming a god herself in essence...

If I remember correctly, and its been a few months since I last did a full playthrough, the only time Flemeth tells you that Morrigan is using you (for her dirty work) is when you arrive at her hut and tell her that you know how she has been extending her lifespan. The major question there is who is telling the truth, is Morrigan truthfull about what she found in the Grimoire (ergo that Flemeth will take over her body) or is Flemeth truthfull saying that Morrigan is only using you to get rid of Flemeth. Many of us believe that Morrigan didn't lie about the body-snatching since we found the robes of possession... Of course there's no reason Morrigan can't use you to get rid of Flemeth and be truthfull about the body-snatching...
Morrigan also says at some point that taking over the body of another to extend your lifespan is unnatural and she even claims she would never do it. Whether you believe her or not is of course again in the eye of the beholder.

I would also like to point out that it has been more or less confirmed that Morrigan does indeed care for the warden either as a friend or a lover (depending on the choices) through "The Revelation" comic series( http://blog.bioware....velation-comic/ ). Which could have an effect on her in the long run.

There's one large (possible) flaw with the theory that Morrigan will take over the godchild to increase her own power. Being that every piece of information we have regarding souls / demons invading bodies indicates that no two souls can inhabit the same body. Considering the child carries the soul of an old god, means that if Morrigan would take over the child she would replace that soul with her own, which wouldn't make the practice much different from using a regular child.
She also promised no harm would come to the child, but again whether you believe this is up to the player.
To me, this solution also seems very predictable and like I stated possibly flawed... which is why I expect they'll build in an interesting twist somewhere along the road!

But again lets try not to turn this thread into a discussion about her reasoning etc... There's several threads on the forums talking about that already, some with very interesting and in-depth ideas and theories! 

Good analysis. I'm with you. Hope closure will have option for happy ending for my Warden, even if he has to die for her (and/or their child).

[Jicano]

perhaps a novel would be the best way to close it. Not necessarily a novel about the warden finding her, but rather a novel about what morrigan does/what happens to her after DA:origins. Im sure the bioware writers have a set story about what happens to her, so they could easily hire a writer to publish it in a novel.

[OriginsIsBest]

Jicano wrote...

perhaps a novel would be the best way to close it. Not necessarily a novel about the warden finding her, but rather a novel about what morrigan does/what happens to her after DA:origins. Im sure the bioware writers have a set story about what happens to her, so they could easily hire a writer to publish it in a novel.

There is a couple of good fan fics out there, but we need more!

[Jarlof Seoul]

Just saw the DA2 trailer: Man, that Hawke dude's powers are rather Dragon-like! Thought he could be a OGB grown up with strange dragonesque powers. Hearing Flemeth made me think of Morrigan! She has to be coming back somehow!

Modifié par Jarlof Seoul, 18 août 2010 - 06:29 .

[UberDuber]

Jarlof Seoul wrote...

Just saw the DA2 trailer: Man, that Hawke dude's powers are rather Dragon-like! Thought he could be a OGB grown up with strange dragonesque powers. Hearing Flemeth made me think of Morrigan! She has to be coming back somehow!

Bro, did you see the army of Morrigans?

[Jarlof Seoul]

UberDuber wrote...

Jarlof Seoul wrote...

Just saw the DA2 trailer: Man, that Hawke dude's powers are rather Dragon-like! Thought he could be a OGB grown up with strange dragonesque powers. Hearing Flemeth made me think of Morrigan! She has to be coming back somehow!

Bro, did you see the army of Morrigans?

Really, where?In the superfast flashbacks?

[GameBoyish]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

Dammit man, Laidlaw comes in and instills a little hope only for Darth Gaider to bust down the door and force choke the hope out of the poor Morrigan romancing Wardens and Morrigan fans.

This is the key to Dragon Age: Gaider and Laidlaw locked in a Balrog-and-Galdalf-like duel as we plunge through the burning heart of Thedas.

Someone should really get on drawing that, and try to work a chrome griffon playing an electric guitar into the background somewhere.

/win

[Jarlof Seoul]

Acharnae wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

I don't mean to sound dickish, but at least having Morrigan show up in DA2 only to have Hawke deal with her is a bit like having some randow Jawa confront Darth Vader in Empire Strikes Back instead of Luke- the past history between the Warden and Morrigan is prime stuff to be played with in the future IMO.

So, you're saying I should cut any references to Morrigan from DA2? Wow. That, sir, is a brave thing to request. It's like unleashing the hounds!

At this point all I can say is that I personally do not believe the Morrigan fans will be disappointed by what the future has in store.

Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! :wizard:

Agreed! Love Morri

[gotthammer]

Jarlof Seoul wrote...

Acharnae wrote...

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

So, you're saying I should cut any references to Morrigan from DA2? Wow. That, sir, is a brave thing to request. It's like unleashing the hounds!

At this point all I can say is that I personally do not believe the Morrigan fans will be disappointed by what the future has in store.

Hurray! Hurray! Hurray! :wizard:

Agreed! Love Morri

More Morrigan please!

[r12crown]

What I think is most likely and the best option for DA2 is our warden joining hawke as a companion after hes done with archdemon, with morrigan playing a part too. You cant have flemmeth without morrigan, morrigan has her own fanbase for gods sake, if they cut her out many people will be dissapointed and i dont think that is what bioware wants

Still, even though they dont put her in I belive this is going to be a great game and i will buy it

Modifié par r12crown, 20 août 2010 - 10:57 .

[alexmasterson123]

r12crown wrote...

What I think is most likely and the best option for DA2 is our warden joining hawke as a companion

That presents a lot of logistical hurdles, such as the warden not having VO and being generally open to interpretation.

What would be cool, however, is in DA3, Hawke joining up with warden, the personality tracking tech taking the data from your DA2 Hawke and using it to forge his/her personality as a party member.

[r12crown]

Hmm true it wouldnt be easy, but you can import your char with his choices and be controlable same as hawke, i mean u choose your answers same as with hawke, and adding few important dialogs when talking to hawke.

uhh sorry 'bout my english...

still your idea is also very good IMO,
but the thing is i really dont want to wait till da3 to continue warden and morrigans realtionship, thats why i'd like to see the option i presented

Modifié par r12crown, 20 août 2010 - 01:33 .

[gotthammer]

alexmasterson123 wrote...

What would be cool, however, is in DA3, Hawke joining up with warden, the personality tracking tech taking the data from your DA2 Hawke and using it to forge his/her personality as a party member.

Ooh. I like this idea.
As for the 'Warden's search for Morrigan' thing: I can wait. DA3? DA4? They can take their time...as long as it happens. 

[Lord Issa]

Yeah, I really want the Warden's hunt for Morrigan to have an end.