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[Nighwolfa]

Exactly, try to cater for everyone.

[UberDuber]

I remember there was a poll on here, asking who you would like to return and Morrigan got 70% of the vote or more.



I really want a Morrigan expansion or DLC and you get to play as your warden!

[Kaiser Shepard]

If they end the Warden/Morrigan story in a possible second expansion, I want it to happen in a very tragic and bitter way, a fair price for going along with the DR.

Imagine the Warden looking for Morrigan for years, eventually ending up in a town that needs his help, second expansion happens, you kill the final boss but are left dying on the ground. The camera switches to a first person point of view,with the Warden looking at the ceiling/sky but having trouble keeping his eyes open. As his eyes almost close for the last time, you hear a familiar voice: "Well, well, what have we here?", causing the Warden's eyes to shoot right open. Then one last conversation with Morrigan, as she effectively guides you into your death.

I would really appreciate it ending like that.

Modifié par Kaiser Shepard, 06 août 2010 - 05:11 .

[Nighwolfa]

Hehe She does have a memorable voice.

[MaxQuartiroli]

Johnny Jaded wrote...

You're missing my point. If the devs want to make certain content, they are going to make it regardless of fans' desires. Additionally, those who didn't like Leliana likely didn't get Leliana's Song for that reason; so likewise those who don't like Morrigan (or didn't do the DR or whatever) don't have to get Morrigan-based DLC (assuming that's how it's implemented).

A DLC would not work
There is a rule that Bioware (and probably every company) follow in their game: every player must be able to play it

If you release a DLC based on God Child you prevent it to be played from people who didn't do the DR. You may ask, "If you didn't do DR why you should  bored to not be able to play the DLC?" It doesn't matter. For their philosophy they'll never release a game which can only be played by a specifical category of users. Leliana's song could be played by anyone, even if you killed her because it was set in a previous time-line. Maybe people who hate her didn't buy it, but they gave anyway them the opportunity to buy and play it

Modifié par MaxQuartiroli, 06 août 2010 - 05:48 .

[Nighwolfa]

If people read the comic con this year, bio's intentions with DA and morrigan are "touched apon" a suggested read.

Modifié par Nighwolfa, 06 août 2010 - 05:58 .

[TheLion36]

They could of course create a DLC that would support both choices... One story-path which involves the Dark Ritual choice, and another path which involves the choice of not doing the Dark Ritual... Same base story of course, the child could for example be a solution to a problem and there might be another solution which you are forced to take if you hadn't done the DR. Considering it is impossible to kill Morrigan in Origins, she could be heavily involved in the story.

[Nighwolfa]

Well it seems they intend to keep apdating the DA content, even when DA2 is released, to keep the people who love the original saga interested. "BioWare is going to keep making downloadable content for Dragon Age: Origins, and that they are planning to keep the DA:O franchise going for as long as they can — so the changes in Dragon Age 2 aren’t necessarily the end for more traditional roleplayers. " Quoted from Comic con.

[Pedrak]

My guess (and hope): in DA3 "cameo" by Morrigan as a mature woman and OGB as a young adult with a relevant role - replaced by another character if you didn't do the DR.

Morrigan's "importance" could be similar to Wrex' in Mass Effect 2 if you didn't kill him in the first game. Her son (or daughter) could be a party member.

Modifié par Pedrak, 06 août 2010 - 06:19 .

[Amyntas]

When I think about romances in Bioware titles I get the feeling that they love to torture us men. Every attractive woman is either completely nuts, wants to exploit you or she dies before you can hit on her. In DA2 I will definately be celibate.

[BallaZs]

Just_mike wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

It's not doubtful to see Morrigan's return. But I'd prefer seeing her as my Warden -> That is doubtful
The God Child itself leaves a lot of open space, so I guess we'll hear about her in the sequel.

Do you think Bioware will have a load Dragon Age origins save Option? We might not play as our Warden, but maybe our Warden's story will set up the canon instead of a default playthrough.

Yes, we'll have a save file which we can use in DA2, I think it has been confirmed already.
I've only said that it would be good to meet her as the warden, but it won't happen still it worth mentoining. It's likely that we'll have at least a dialogue for the warden which explains what happened to him/her as u mentoined.:happy:

[MaxQuartiroli]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

MaxQuartiroli wrote...

A DLC would not work
There is a rule that Bioware (and probably every company) follow in their game: every player must be able to play it

If
you release a DLC based on God Child you prevent it to be played from
people who didn't do the DR. You may ask, "If you didn't do DR why you
should  bored to not be able to play the DLC?" It doesn't matter. For
their philosophy they'll never release a game which can only be played
by a specifical category of users. Leliana's song could be played by
anyone, even if you killed her because it was set in a previous
time-line. Maybe people who hate her didn't buy it, but they gave anyway
them the opportunity to buy and play it.

That's not exactly true. There is Awakening. You can import a Warden or create a new one. If the Warden sacrificed him/herself then you practically choose to undo that and I'm not sure, but Alistair was still the one arriving with the troops if he had been made king, meaning he didn't sacrifice either. so in that case the only way for both of you to survive was either to participate in the DR or sacrifice Loghain. This is complicated...

MY POINT is that they could easily do something like Awakening again.

If this ain't irony...

They said (or better Gaider said) many times that the choice to ret-connect your DA:O ending in Awakening and to play it with your dead warden is an estemporaneus choice they give to player, something like "Do you want to resurrect your Warden? Well, you can do it, but don't ask us to find a justification for that because there isn't.. it's YOUR choice and therefore you have to deal with it" therefore Awakening cannot be considered a reliable example

Obviously the better solution was the one of TheLion36, to made a story that could fit well for any choice..
The problem is just that I wonder what kind of stuff you could put inside if there isn't the god baby.. It would result in a game with too much differences, too much work for two different gaming experience.. In a DLC? Impossible..

[Danjaru]

The ones hoping for a morrigan focused expansion or DLC are probably going to be dissapointed. If there is another future expansion I expect Morrigan to be part of a side story of an hour or two which is affected by your decisions in DA:O.

Sure there probably could be a Morrigan focused DLC or expansion where the god child plays a very small part (and depending on decisions, none at all), instead you go after/stumble upon Morrigan for other reasons, but I don't see that happening tbh.

Modifié par Danjaru, 06 août 2010 - 06:47 .

[Nighwolfa]

Well according to Mike Laidlaw, They have plans for Morrigan, Seeing as hes lead designer of DA & DA2, That has to mean something.

Mike Laidlaw: "At this point all I can say is that I personally do not believe the Morrigan fans will be disappointed by what the future has in store."



I dont think he would write that if they intend just to make it a quick refrence to her then thats the end.

[MaxQuartiroli]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

That's irrelevant, really (EDIT: to clarify, I'm referring to the "Awakening not being a reliable example" part) - it can be done, it has been done and it could very well be done yet again. There's nothing to suggest that they won't give that kind extemporaneous choices again. Unless someone knows of a post where BioWare states that they will definitely not.

The fact they did it, and they could do it again doesn't mean this is a good thing to do

JoePinasi1989 wrote...
Now, regarding the "God Baby", she could have a miscarriage... problem solved, everyone happy. Well... somewhat happy. At least no one will be unhappy because others got an extra party member while they'd only get Morrigan. Honestly I couldn't really accept anything less for something/someone as important as the "God Baby", ya know - AT LEAST a companion, if not the main antagonist. But that's my problem...

errr.... no this thing would probably be the worst solution ever.. At this point it's better Awakening solution
Anyway.. I am not a fan of Morrigan and DR but if I were, I wouldn't be happy at all to see that relegated into a DLC , perhaps through a ret-connection, like if it was something they have to epurate in some way... a problem to solve at any cost
I would wait for something different...and made in a better way....just my opinion

[Nerevar-as]

Mike Laidlaw wrote...

Brockololly wrote...

I don't mean to sound dickish, but at least having Morrigan show up in DA2 only to have Hawke deal with her is a bit like having some randow Jawa confront Darth Vader in Empire Strikes Back instead of Luke- the past history between the Warden and Morrigan is prime stuff to be played with in the future IMO.

So, you're saying I should cut any references to Morrigan from DA2? Wow. That, sir, is a brave thing to request. It's like unleashing the hounds!

At this point all I can say is that I personally do not believe the Morrigan fans will be disappointed by what the future has in store.

But will Morrigan/Warden shippers be?

[Nighwolfa]

Only time will tell.

[iTomes]

shameless xD

[Nighwolfa]

0.o who

[Brockololly]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Now, regarding the "God Baby", she could have a miscarriage... problem solved, everyone happy. Well...
somewhat happy. At least no one will be unhappy because others got an extra party member while they'd only get Morrigan. Honestly I couldn't really accept anything less for something/someone as important  as the "God Baby", ya know - AT LEAST a companion, if not the main  antagonist. But that's my problem...

Writing off the God Baby by having Morrigan miscarry  would be as lame as having the writers come up with some solution where  the US players end up with Morrigan going around them to get the OGB  some other way. It would cheapen the whole point of the DR choice.

As far as any Warden/Morrigan reunion, I don't think it should automatically end tragically or automatically have to involve killing the EVIL Old God Baby. To me, that route is the predictable and boring one- everyone thinks the DR is some nasty heinous deed. I'd love it if we had a choice in how such a reunion played out- maybe one possibility is a tragic ending but maybe another is a relatively happy ending- not like settling down to Leave it to Beaver style, but something that leaves the Warden's little family alive and not necessarily wallowing in sorrow and regret.
Maybe the "happy" ending requires walking a very difficult path, but I'd prefer it if there is some choice in the matter of how Morrigan and the Warden's story ends.

And just making the OGB to be some evil villain in the future is boring- its Dragon Age so it won't end up being black and white like that, I hope.

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Personally I think the whole "kill Flemeth" part was just a complicated ruse to make the Warden believe the baby would not end up in Flemeth's hands. Ya know, if she ever managed to posses THAT, well... he he...

Oh, I definitely wouldn't be surprised if Flemeth has been pulling the strings and maybe the DR ends up with unintended consequences for Morrigan or the Warden. But to just have Flemeth body snatch the OGB? First, I don't think her body snatching works that way. From what Morrigan explained, Flemeth basically steals the body and boots out the soul of the previous inhabitant. Would Flemeth want to take over the body of a 5 year old? And from my understanding, its the SOUL of the Old God thats important about the OGB.  So, wouldn't Flemeth taking over the body negate the special nature of the OG soul?

Unless of course, perhaps, each time FLemeth takes over a new body, she doesn't kick out the soul but rather, in all her abomination-ness, basically absorbs or eats the soul and picks up the powers and identity of that person. Maybe each human form she can take is the identity of one of her previous daughters?

Modifié par Brockololly, 06 août 2010 - 10:10 .

[Nighwolfa]

Flemeth reminds me of a kind of locust the way she takes her hosts

[UberDuber]

I have one question though which I would really like anwsered



Well we get to meet Morrigan as our wardens? ( Happy face )

Or do we have to be Mike Hawke ( Sad face )

or both! ( Super happy face )