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[Cypher0020]

Did some tweaking to my infiltrator last night and came up with

4 sqaud cryo
3 heavy disrupt
4 enhanced cloak
4 agent
1 AI Hack
3 Incenerate
2 Neural Shock


So this is a good build or a bad build?   My focus is: use squad like Mordin/Miranda debuff and disrupt ammo and pick off with my sniper

[Fiery Phoenix]

This is actually fairly similar to my own Infiltrator build, which works just fine.

[Cypher0020]

Really? Wow. I took some advice from some posters the other day and changed it.... I guess I'll give it a try



Oh what about the bonus weapon on the Collector ship? There's this sniper called the widow? Or would the AR be more effective?

[Fiery Phoenix]

I would be lying to you if I told you there was a correct answer to that question.



The trick is to go with your gut feeling and pick what suits you best. I personally picked the Widow since I'm a dead-on sniper. I even pick it up with my Soldier.

[Cypher0020]

Hmmm I'll have to give it a try. Went with my gut w/claymore on my Vanguard and I'm happy I did that



Except.... I'm a really bad shot....I can hit...but sometimes I flub on headshots >.>



So....would Operative/Assassin cloak be better for me?



I play paragon...so I max out my skills pretty easily...but I like the health/shield boost from the Agent

[Fiery Phoenix]

Anything that gives you time to line up your shot is a good choice if you're not the greatest sniper.

[Cypher0020]

Ok so I'm stuck with the mantis until Thane's mission apparently.... I heard viper is the better rifle.....but until then



disruptor ammo or cyro for sniping? Just curious I do love them both, but I'll take any tips to help me one shot kill faster

[Fiery Phoenix]

Disruptor for organics, cryo for synthetics.

[Cypher0020]

Oh.... well that clears it up nicely LOL

[Fiery Phoenix]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Oh.... well that clears it up nicely LOL

Wait! My bad! I actually meant the opposite, lol! That is, disruptor for synthetics, and cryo for organics.

How embarrassing! 

Modifié par FieryPhoenix7, 06 août 2010 - 02:59 .

[OniGanon]

Go for Assassin Cloak.



If it's really the sniper feel you're after, go for the Widow.



If it has shields, use Disruptor. If not, Cryo or squadmate's ammo power.

[Mecha Tengu]

boooring



infiltrator sniping takes no skill

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

boooring

infiltrator sniping takes no skill

This is the second time you've posted something that's rather unnecessary; the other being your post in a recent ME movie thread. Just saying.

[Mecha Tengu]

female lead in an action/adventure movie? HAHA no thanks



and infiltrator sniping is quite boring, especially with that slow motion aiming

[Fiery Phoenix]

Mecha Tengu wrote...

female lead in an action/adventure movie? HAHA no thanks

and infiltrator sniping is quite boring, especially with that slow motion aiming

Very well.

[KageZX]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Did some tweaking to my infiltrator last night and came up with

4 sqaud cryo
3 heavy disrupt
4 enhanced cloak
4 agent
1 AI Hack
3 Incenerate
2 Neural Shock


So this is a good build or a bad build?   My focus is: use squad like Mordin/Miranda debuff and disrupt ammo and pick off with my sniper

By my calculations, that build is comeing in at 46/51 points.

So, is that suppose to be a 4 in front of heavy disrupt instead of a 3? If not, then you still have 5 points left to spend in the build.

[Cypher0020]

hmmmm may only take disrupt to 3..... cryo is my all time fav, and you cannot pass up squad cryo

[OniGanon]

Oh, he's right, you have 5 points.



Either Heavy Disruptor or max Incinerate, then.

[V0luS_R0cKs7aR]

If you're gonna take cryo ammo, there's really no point in taking Neural shock as a bonus power since (ideally) the target is gonna be hit by cryo bullets and frozen once its defenses are stripped. Even without cryo ammo, neural shock just paralyzes targets - for a sniper build, you don't want to be wasting Widow ammo on a target down to health anyway (the only time a target can be neural shocked).

Also, neural shock doesn't work against a number of difficult enemies - i.e. Harbinger, Scions, Praetorians, Reaper fetus...

I'd also go with Assassination cloak over enhanced cloak (unless you're a Viper or CQC Infiltrator) and Assassin over Agent (for the extra damage).

Personally I'd rather take Warp ammo (or Tungsten) as a bonus power, since it maximizes your sniper rifle for your sniper build.

My (Widow) build is similar:

4 squad Cryo
2 Disruptor
4 Assassination cloak
4 Assassin
1 AI Hack
3 Incinerate
4 Heavy Warp

(think that adds up to 50...)

If you're worried about accuracy, you should go with the Viper. In which case I would modify your original build in the OP to:

4 squad Cryo
2 Disruptor (really no practical difference between lvl 2 and 3 imo)
4 Assassination or Enhanced cloak (damage vs. 2 seconds extra to flank, your choice)
4 Agent or Assassin (I'd pick Assassin)
1 AI Hack
3 Incinerate
4 Neural Shock

Modifié par V0luS_R0cKs7aR, 06 août 2010 - 05:03 .

[Cypher0020]

hmmmm...both are really nice builds... good thing I found out about the retraining spec

[V0luS_R0cKs7aR]

Definitely. I played around with re-spec'ing and advanced training before I set upon an Infiltrator build that suited my playstyle. Everyone's play style is different, so if Neural Shock works for you, then go for it.



I personally don't use it because on higher difficulties all enemies have shields/barrier or armor or both. It's usage is just too situational for me.



Also, I tend to keep Disruptor ammo at lvl 2 and AI hack at lvl 1 regardless if I'm going for the Sniper Infiltrator or the CQC Infiltrator - and it's not because I don't like these powers, because I use them ALL the time against Geth. The Tempest/Locust SMGs will strip shields really well with lvl 2 disruptor, so I save those points for something else (like Area Neural Shock). Level 1 AI hacking is amazing because the hacked Geth will probably die (a good thing) - but it would probably strip the shields off of another Geth before dying, allowing you to hack *that* Geth. And so the domino effect goes, until there are no more Geth to hack.



It's even better if you bring Legion or Tali along with you on anti-Geth missions.

[OniGanon]

Mm, sometimes you really need the target disabled RIGHT NOW as opposed to 2 seconds later. That's when you Shock em. More than that though, Neural Shock is also useful for staggering. It also lets you use ammo powers other than Cryo, safe in the knowledge that you can disable the target straight away with Shock and not have to wait until your teammates hit them with their Cryo (and then wait a few more seconds for the freeze).



Don't get me wrong, I love Cryo. But sometimes it's just not fast enough.



(And unlike Cryo, Shock can also be made aoe, which it is on my personal build.)

[PsyrenY]

As others have said, Hack and Dominate are one-point wonders.



The ammo powers don't need to be maxed unless you're going for squad version - and naturally, even then you only need one person to have that ammo power raised that high.



DD and CC powers are the best to max. (Direct Damage + Crowd Control)

[V0luS_R0cKs7aR]

OniGanon wrote...

Mm, sometimes you really need the target disabled RIGHT NOW as opposed to 2 seconds later. That's when you Shock em.

True, I agree with pretty much everything you just said. But since the OP was referring to a sniper Infiltrator, if the primary weapon is the Widow then I find Neural Shock pretty useless. The Widow either one-shots the target, or brings it down to 10% health...at which point you probably wouldn't want to waste a Widow bullet or a power use that denies the use of Cloak.

As for Neural Shock's area effect, I can't even remember a time on Hardcore/Insanity when multiple enemies, all stripped of shields/barriers/armor, were close enough together for area Neural Shock to knock them out when playing an Infiltrator.

Anyway, IMO the Arc Projector is a far more effective means to stun/crowd control your opponents, without interfering with your ability to cloak. It is also much more likely to hit multiple enemies than Area Neural Shock, and works on shielded enemies.

If the Viper is the primary sniper rifle, than I would...actually I'd still probably go with the Arc Projector over lvl 4 Neural shock, haha.

[OniGanon]

V0luS_R0cKs7aR wrote...
if the primary weapon is the Widow then I find Neural Shock pretty useless. The Widow either one-shots the target, or brings it down to 10% health...at which point you probably wouldn't want to waste a Widow bullet or a power use that denies the use of Cloak.

As for Neural Shock's area effect, I can't even remember a time on Hardcore/Insanity when multiple enemies, all stripped of shields/barriers/armor, were close enough together for area Neural Shock to knock them out when playing an Infiltrator.

Thing about sniping is that while you're scoped you've got no peripheral vision, and sometimes things can creep up on you or they just move towards you faster than you expected. A noscoped Widow/Viper body shot followed by a Neural Shock has saved my bacon more than a few times.

Besides, there is some value in just disabling an enemy for a long time rather than killing it: disabled enemies don't get replaced, while killed ones do. At least, that's been my experience; I could just be imagining that.

As for Neural Shockwave, that build uses the Viper so having multiple enemies undefended is not unusual.