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[lady winde]

So I was talking with a friend, love you victoria , earlier about Alistair and his mother.

Those who have read Dragon Age: The Calling know that his mother was not some serving girl in a castle but an elven mage that was also a Grey Warden named Fiona. I know that she did not wish Alistair to know about her since she didn't want him to suffer because of her elven blood... but there was one part bothering me.

His sister.

Surely his sister would know that their mother wasn't some mere serving girl. Judging the way Fiona felt regarding her past it would seem like such a backword step to take. Perhaps at the time baby Alistair arrived at Redcliff, Goldanna's mother had past away while giving birth, the baby along with it, allowing the perfect cover for our favorite bastard prince . Somewhere along the way someone overhears Duncan telling Arl Eamon the baby is Maric's and there you have it.

Unless of course, Fiona had another baby prior to becoming a Grey Warden but it seems doubtful a Grey Warden would be able to have two children after the joining unless it was before drinking darkspawn blood.

Anyways I have no doubt the pendant he was given was Fiona's. It would seem too cruel to not have anything connected to the mother he truly does not know.

Thoughts?

Modifié par lady winde, 10 novembre 2009 - 08:30 .

[Aramintai]

Well, I was thinking that it was either an oversight from devs or he was given away as a child to some actual maid from Redcliffe by the arrangement of Arl Eamon and Duncan. And that his "sister" Goldanna is actually that maid's daughter, who accordingly has no real blood connection to Alistair.

[Vilegrim]

he does call her his 'half sister' but that brings up the question, does he know who his mother really is?

[David Gaider]

Assuming that the child from the book and Alistair are, indeed, one and the same... yes, Goldanna wouldn't have really been his sister. She would have been the daughter of the maid who died in childbirth, and Goldanna likely was unaware that her mother's baby also died and that Alistair is indeed of no relation to her.



Assuming that he isn't actually the maid's child, of course.

[GmanFresh]

of course...

[Isaantia]

David Gaider wrote...

Assuming that the child from the book and Alistair are, indeed, one and the same... yes, Goldanna wouldn't have really been his sister. She would have been the daughter of the maid who died in childbirth, and Goldanna likely was unaware that her mother's baby also died and that Alistair is indeed of no relation to her.

Assuming that he isn't actually the maid's child, of course.

Goldanna also said that Maric had forced himself on her mother and that is so out of character for Maric that it seems like this is a whole coverup to avoid the shame of having an elven mother. Duncan is dead so who else would know the truth at this point?

How old is Alistair anyways?

[lady winde]

I would say 19-20 if we go by the timeline.

[lady winde]

double posting wheeee

Modifié par lady winde, 10 novembre 2009 - 08:51 .

[MightySword]

I don't know how to take it, but isn't Grey Warden woman CAN NOT give birth to a child? If so than Fiona can't be Alistair's mother if she's a Grey Warden ... right?

[chiliztri]

It's not that they can't, it's just not recommended and not widely practiced since Grey Warden's are supposed to put duty before anything else, and the chances of having a tainted child. At least that's the feeling I got from the game.

Modifié par chiliztri, 10 novembre 2009 - 10:00 .

[MightySword]

I don't read the book, but the impression I get from reading the spoiler about Alistair's romance that



SPOILER

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Alistair may deny the PC if he becomes king, citing the PC can give birth to an heir







So that strike me as Grey Warden female can't have child.

[lady winde]

It is possible for Grey Warden females to have children. It's just something that is extremely unlikely. The same goes for male Grey Wardens too.

[David Gaider]

lady winde wrote...
It is possible for Grey Warden females to have children. It's just something that is extremely unlikely. The same goes for male Grey Wardens too.

And for two Grey Wardens to have children with each other, almost impossible.

[Maria Caliban]

It would be neat if the child (son?) of Fiona and Maric was running around in the game but wasn't Alistair. After all, if you can have one royal bastard, why not two? 

MightySword wrote...

I don't read the book, but the impression I get from reading the spoiler about Alistair's romance that

SPOILER
*********************
Alistair may deny the PC if he becomes king, citing the PC can give birth to an heir



So that strike me as Grey Warden female can't have child.

Hmm...

Alistair denies the Grey Warden female because she could GIVE BIRTH to an heir. And from this you take that Grey Warden females cannot give birth?

Typo? 

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 10 novembre 2009 - 10:01 .

[lady winde]

So I've been replaying the game and I noticed something else. In the codex regarding Alistair it is written that Arl Eamon hid and raised Alistair at Redcliffe to -hide- him from Queen Rowan.

So does this mean that Alistair is not the son of Fiona and Maric? Queen Rowan had been dead before the start of Dragon Age: The Calling.

I promise I don't make it a habit to look for contradictions T_T it's just argh... you know... obsessive fangirlism~ wheee. Anyways, any input would be appreciated.

Modifié par lady winde, 12 novembre 2009 - 11:36 .

[Mystranna Kelteel]

Assuming there is no continuity error between the game and the book, yes, Alistair can not possibly be Fiona's son.

[Maria Caliban]

Yes. I tried to tell people this, but they do no listen!

[lady winde]

It makes you wonder just how many more Maric bastards there are out there! lol

[Maria Caliban]

I've heard a few people say that they find it difficult to believe that Maric would have more bastards. Why? Whipping it out seems to be one of his major skills sets. I'm sure elf bard was pregnant when he murdered her too.

[Mordern]

I'd have thought Bhelen would have taught people that 'Good Leader' does not always equate to 'Good Person' in Ferelden.

[LeandraNyx]

My character is a mage named Fiora... and his mother was possibly a mage named Fiona? Hmm, would be a little creepy if he'd known that while we were romancing!

[Ajyk]

I think the story is too well put together for such an obvious error in the codex...that said, it could be purposely wrong. I heard that some codexes are different depending on your origin.

Also, there was some discussion here a little while ago: http://social.biowar.../index/166256/1

ETA:  Could there be an expansion where another royal bastard makes an appearance to claim the throne?

Modifié par Ajyk, 13 novembre 2009 - 02:28 .

[syllogi]

There is the fact that Alistair is attracted to magical statuettes and runestones as gifts, despite being raised to be a templar, as perhaps a hint to readers of The Calling that his parentage might not be as claimed.



But knowing Alistair, he just might really like shiny objects.

[MBirkhofer]

Goldanna also says that she thought the baby died. And was paid to not say anything, though she knew the child was Maric's. This would be at odds, if the baby was not Alistair.





What about Wynne's son? I'm not done yet, but is any resolution found with this at all?

[Tamyn]

David Gaider wrote...

lady winde wrote...
It is possible for Grey Warden females to have children. It's just something that is extremely unlikely. The same goes for male Grey Wardens too.

And for two Grey Wardens to have children with each other, almost impossible.

Alistair and my Grey Warden will overcome any obstacles with the power of TRUE LOVE!