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Combat on the PC should be largely the same. [GameInformer article]





^Thats all I can find right now. I swear I read somewhere they were keeping iso view.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

What Elder Scrolls, unless you know something the rest of us don't

This new TES :o

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Platform wars. If i was developer I would develop exclusively for Macs.



Who am I kidding, I'd try to port Star Control to the Virtual Boy

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epoch_ wrote...

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The game itself is horribly bugged.

Again, DAO was horribly buggy? I didn't notice that.


Then you're blind because you certainly don't have a special non buggy copy of the game.

Seriously, I can grab the ZDF, MRP, and my mod's read me and list those bugs if you want.....and those aren't even close to all of them. <_<

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

fchopin wrote...

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its not really so hard to understand that many would be upset by no toolset alot of hard work goes into mods and alot of time and effort to


I get that.  I don't get the, "there's no point in even playing this game," mentality, though.  Like a game cannot possibly be good unless it meets X prerequisites.  



I don't think you want to understand, this is supposed to be a sequel to dao not an everything changed in the game.


SEQUEL is not a subjective term. It is a SEQUEL because they deem it one. The people that MADE IT. Please don't go into that territory. Don't do that "you are just not getting the point" BS. Please. It just makes you look like a buffoon.

this is a post that makes you look like an ****

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cmessaz wrote...


*facepalm infinity* Well, not just you. But the people coming in here and laughing and saying that people's opinions are "ridiculous" are crossing the line imo. Say, I disagree with this because, etc. Don't insult people. That wasn't necessarily pointed exclusively at you.


Slow down for a minute. I wasn't accusing you of accusing me of anything. I'm just trying to figure out what you are referring to, what you think is insulting.

So, to you, an insult is saying that someone's post is ridiculous.

I think that is ridiculous.

An insult is telling someone they suck because they are a PC/Console Gamer. An insult is wishing them death. An insult is saying that someone is a retarded baby. All of which have actually happened. 

It is not an insult to point out that someone's claim is far-fetched.

Ridiculous is most definitely not a four letter word.

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2papercuts wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

its not really so hard to understand that many would be upset by no toolset alot of hard work goes into mods and alot of time and effort to


I get that.  I don't get the, "there's no point in even playing this game," mentality, though.  Like a game cannot possibly be good unless it meets X prerequisites.  



I don't think you want to understand, this is supposed to be a sequel to dao not an everything changed in the game.


SEQUEL is not a subjective term. It is a SEQUEL because they deem it one. The people that MADE IT. Please don't go into that territory. Don't do that "you are just not getting the point" BS. Please. It just makes you look like a buffoon.

this is a post that makes you look like an ****


I disagree, they are 100% right, face it. 

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

It just makes you look like a buffoon.



If you think by calling me a buffoon i will reply in kind you are mistaken.
 
I will only think you are a troll and will not reply to your posts again.
 
Have fun.

Modifié par fchopin, 08 août 2010 - 12:33 .


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Well no toolset means that there is no reason for me to buy this game.

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2papercuts wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

its not really so hard to understand that many would be upset by no toolset alot of hard work goes into mods and alot of time and effort to


I get that.  I don't get the, "there's no point in even playing this game," mentality, though.  Like a game cannot possibly be good unless it meets X prerequisites.  



I don't think you want to understand, this is supposed to be a sequel to dao not an everything changed in the game.


SEQUEL is not a subjective term. It is a SEQUEL because they deem it one. The people that MADE IT. Please don't go into that territory. Don't do that "you are just not getting the point" BS. Please. It just makes you look like a buffoon.

this is a post that makes you look like an ****


Um, explain? Because, last I checked, none of what I said was untrue.

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slimgrin wrote...

Combat on the PC should be largely the same. [GameInformer article]


^Thats all I can find right now. I swear I read somewhere they were keeping iso view.


Hmm, I'm reminded of this scene from Space Balls.



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shedevil3001 wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

its not really so hard to understand that many would be upset by no toolset alot of hard work goes into mods and alot of time and effort to


I get that.  I don't get the, "there's no point in even playing this game," mentality, though.  Like a game cannot possibly be good unless it meets X prerequisites.  



for alot of people its replayability that matters and once you've played it you want new and different when dlc is released not all like them so they make mods to spice up their game removing toolset makes some lose intrest in the replay aspect


I understand that, too.  But I would expect more of a, "oh that sucks.  Hope its still fun," mentality.  Not a OMG WTF ARE YOU DOING IM NEVER PLAYING ANOTHER GAME YOU MAKE EVER AGAIN reaction :o

As an aside, I actually hate DLC because after I'm done playing a game, I don't want to pick it up again just to play 45 minutes of new crap or to put on different armor.  I have a feeling that DLC will evolve significantly with time.  

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

2papercuts wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

its not really so hard to understand that many would be upset by no toolset alot of hard work goes into mods and alot of time and effort to


I get that.  I don't get the, "there's no point in even playing this game," mentality, though.  Like a game cannot possibly be good unless it meets X prerequisites.  



I don't think you want to understand, this is supposed to be a sequel to dao not an everything changed in the game.


SEQUEL is not a subjective term. It is a SEQUEL because they deem it one. The people that MADE IT. Please don't go into that territory. Don't do that "you are just not getting the point" BS. Please. It just makes you look like a buffoon.

this is a post that makes you look like an ****


I disagree, they are 100% right, face it. 

didn't say they weren't true, but he asked what make him look like a dick

wow, not censord that time...

Modifié par 2papercuts, 08 août 2010 - 12:37 .


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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

What Elder Scrolls, unless you know something the rest of us don't


Oblivion is still one heck of a game with loads of great mods.

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Bryy_Miller wrote...

cmessaz wrote...


*facepalm infinity* Well, not just you. But the people coming in here and laughing and saying that people's opinions are "ridiculous" are crossing the line imo. Say, I disagree with this because, etc. Don't insult people. That wasn't necessarily pointed exclusively at you.


Slow down for a minute. I wasn't accusing you of accusing me of anything. I'm just trying to figure out what you are referring to, what you think is insulting.

So, to you, an insult is saying that someone's post is ridiculous.

I think that is ridiculous.

An insult is telling someone they suck because they are a PC/Console Gamer. An insult is wishing them death. An insult is saying that someone is a retarded baby. All of which have actually happened. 

It is not an insult to point out that someone's claim is far-fetched.

Ridiculous is most definitely not a four letter word.

Ok, well I know from encounters with some people in other threads that they like to get a rise out of people. You are ridiculous. Do you like that? I know I certainly don't and I'm sure others don't either. My point is, try to be less insulting in your posts. Is that so horrible?

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So let me get this straight: according to you guys, what made Dragon Age: Origins great weren't the marvelous characters, the country of Ferelden, the epic storyline or the classic combat system... but the abilities to fix a few small bugs yourselves, create a custom piece of equipment or two, mod your characters' appearances and a toolset apparently that difficult to work with that there hasn't been something worth calling a module yet?



If so, consider me at a loss for words.

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fchopin wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

It just makes you look like a buffoon.



If you think by calling me a buffoon i will reply in kind you are mistaken.
 
I will only think you are a troll and will not reply to your posts again.
 
Have fun.


Well, it does. Think about it. Would you want someone to respond to YOU by saying "you're just dumb" or otherwise insulting your intelligence for having a differing opinion? Would YOU want to reply to them? I'm not calling you a buffoon, I'm saying that this kind of language will alienate you.

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Merkar wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

What Elder Scrolls, unless you know something the rest of us don't


Oblivion is still one heck of a game with loads of great mods.


I thought you were talking about a new Elder Scrolls.  Makes me sad.  So be it.

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dbankier wrote...

I just watched the Game Informer video interview again. Project Director Mark Darrah said:

"What we're really trying to make sure that happens between the PC and consoles in Dragon Age 2 is that where in Dragon Age Origins, we took a game that was designed for the PC and spent a lot of time bringing it over to the consoles... and I think we did a pretty good job. What we're doing with Dragon Age 2 is that we're really trying to make sure that each experience is truly a unique experience. So on the consoles the games is going to be extremely reactive, you keep that tactical choice but when you push a button something's going to happen, something really awesome. On the PC, a little bit more tactical, make sure that you can examine the battlefield and make your choices - keep that reactivity but again, focus around the controls that you have. You've got a keyboard and mouse, that lets you be a little more tactical with your choices."

I'm confused how they expect us to 'examine the battlefield' if the camera is fixed. Surely the preview is a mistake?


Or the article is, which is why we need dev input.

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Kaiser Shepard wrote...

So let me get this straight: according to you guys, what made Dragon Age: Origins great weren't the marvelous characters, the country of Ferelden, the epic storyline or the classic combat system... but the abilities to fix a few small bugs yourselves, create a custom piece of equipment or two, mod your characters' appearances and a toolset apparently that difficult to work with that there hasn't been something worth calling a module yet?

If so, consider me at a loss for words.

No we are saying that the ability to make mods and repair bugs made the replay value of this game higher.

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2papercuts wrote...

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

2papercuts wrote...

Bryy_Miller wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

its not really so hard to understand that many would be upset by no toolset alot of hard work goes into mods and alot of time and effort to


I get that.  I don't get the, "there's no point in even playing this game," mentality, though.  Like a game cannot possibly be good unless it meets X prerequisites.  



I don't think you want to understand, this is supposed to be a sequel to dao not an everything changed in the game.


SEQUEL is not a subjective term. It is a SEQUEL because they deem it one. The people that MADE IT. Please don't go into that territory. Don't do that "you are just not getting the point" BS. Please. It just makes you look like a buffoon.

this is a post that makes you look like an ****


I disagree, they are 100% right, face it. 

didn't say they weren't true, but he asked what make him look like a dick


Well, I mean, seriously, fchopin was totally blowing that other poster off.

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Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I disagree, they are 100% right.


Since when are they mutually exclusive?

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cmessaz wrote...

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I didn't notice a lot of bugs. I don't care for mods that change item stats or anything that goes beyond cosmetics so no toolset is no big loss for me.

You haven't? So Alistair has never referred to himself as king for you when he isn't, and his pre-romance kiss scene isn't broken? Among many other things?

No.

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Where is bioware to quell this ****storm they've potentially created? Does this mean there is truth to this article?



Ugh.

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fchopin wrote...

Vandrayke wrote...

shedevil3001 wrote...

its not really so hard to understand that many would be upset by no toolset alot of hard work goes into mods and alot of time and effort to


I get that.  I don't get the, "there's no point in even playing this game," mentality, though.  Like a game cannot possibly be good unless it meets X prerequisites.  



I don't think you want to understand, this is supposed to be a sequel to dao not an everything changed in the game.


meh I expect significant changes from sequel to sequel.  Sometimes sequels are disappointing, sure, but I never expect more of the same.  If I really wanted more of the same, I'd just load up the original again :)

And also, sometimes sequels knock it out of the park.