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[DapperDan77]

Is there any chance of getting either Nightmare difficulty reworked, or getting a "Beyond Nightmare" difficulty setting in the next patch please Bioware? I was hoping for a solid challenge that would require me using every party member to the fullest and stretching my tactical capabilities. As it is, I can basically just run in and auto-attack and everything drops within seconds, including boss-level creatures.
 imo it should be close to impossible to solo nightmare difficulty, but even solo, nightmare isn't too rough. Which is a shame, as it takes quite a lot of the feeling of reward from building a well-designed character and setting them loose. Awakening is even worse with all the overpowered new talents(Accuracy and Spirit Warrior spring to mind).

[Dynamomark]

There are plenty of mods that make the game more difficult. Look at this and this, for example. I highly doubt Bioware will make a patch to increase the difficulty, and frankly, I'd rather they fix bugs. But perhaps Bioware could make the game more difficult on nightmare in DA2.

[Matroska]

Really? Everyone I know that played it (OK, so only three other people besides myself) lowered the difficulty to Easy/Casual because they were sick of being killed by random difficulty spikes. I admit that on Normal, you can generally just auto-attack everything but now and then it all goes wrong in a split second and it's game over. Two of these people are incredibly good at RTS and me and the other guy have been playing RPGs and SRPGs for years so it's not like we're just "I hit bad man with stick" in our approach to the game.

As for the strategy to be found in the game, like many RPGs it seems limited by the fact that anything worth being "strategical" towards is usually immune to everything anyway (or near enough) so your option tends to just come down to "attack" anyway. You can do all sorts of stuff to crappy enemies but then there's no point. The main "strategy" is to just freeze everything with the ice cone spell or knock people over/stun them and hit them with rogues that do more damage against stunned/downed opponents (again, any enemy worth thinking about tends to be immune to this anyway).

All that said, I'll risk undermining myself by saying that it is hard to actually try much out since it takes so bloody long to get a new skill, you don't know if it'll work as well as it sounds in the decription (even it'll work properly at all, since it might be glitched) and if it turns out to be crap, you've spent a few hours since unlocking it in order to find out it's crap and it's too late to go back. I guess on the PC you can just edit a character, either to undo bad choices or just to make a custom character in order to try out various set-ups - but not so on the 360, of course. Actually I've been meaning to make a thread on that very topic for a while now, so off I go...

Modifié par Teclo, 08 août 2010 - 01:00 .

[Thatdude88]

I have to adree with nightmare being way to easy its my characters butcher every thing with out much issues

[ashwind]

Could try not using any items with green stats just buy the normal armor from shop and see if it helps giving you a real nightmare?

[Dynamomark]

ashwind wrote...

Could try not using any items with green stats just buy the normal armor from shop and see if it helps giving you a real nightmare?

That would work in theory, but it takes away the fun of building your character, deprives you of the excitement of looking for  and finding new, interesting items, etc. Making enemies stronger/smarter would actually make the game harder without sacrificing the other aspects that make up an RPG.

[DapperDan77]

Dynamomark wrote...

That would work in theory, but it takes away the fun of building your character, deprives you of the excitement of looking for  and finding new, interesting items, etc. Making enemies stronger/smarter would actually make the game harder without sacrificing the other aspects that make up an RPG.

Pretty much this. Having to self-nerf isn't really fun to me.

[ashwind]

Dynamomark wrote...

That would work in theory, but it takes away the fun of building your character, deprives you of the excitement of looking for  and finding new, interesting items, etc. Making enemies stronger/smarter would actually make the game harder without sacrificing the other aspects that make up an RPG.

There are two aspect here that we all agree that would make the game more challenging; Stronger enemies and Smarter enemies.

To make stronger enemies, they will have to increase the hp, armor, defense, damage on the mobs. So they are "relatively" stronger. I can understand that not using certain equipment may "deprive" one from all the fun - but you would already experience all that and you are now looking for a challenge - so, self impose limitation is the fastest way to make enemies stronger - because the term "stronger" is relative. After all, your strongest foe is always yourself :happy:

Smarter enemies... well, that is harder to do because what you are probably looking for is - "The mobs must beat me to near death but I shall win the day." I assure you that it will be extremely easy to make AI that will surly kill you or anyone but to make an AI that will always seem to have the upper hand but let players win in the end is umm... most challenging - because each players have different characters and tactics. Cant find a fit it all AI.

Hence, the self impose limit - to allow players to adjust the difficulty themselves... since nobody really know how good you are and we have all seen how some people are having even difficulties in normal modes.
"Difficulty" is relative to the player. Since you know your skills best - adjust your equipment relatively 

It can be done and it can be fun!

Modifié par ashwind, 09 août 2010 - 04:07 .

[SendarkCh]

I'm just now replaying Dragon Age. The first time I played the game, I did so on Hard and without any knowledge of game mechanics. I rolled a dual-wield warrior who had more armor than the tank and therefore drew all the aggro all the time, I didn't use the tank's threat generation mechanics, I didn't take the game's sole healer NPC, I barely used Leliana's potential as a rogue... In short, my team was about as mismanaged as it could be. Needless to say, I was torn to pieces on Hard, barely survived on Normal and only Easy offered comfortable gaming.



Right now, I'm replaying it on Nightmare as a Rogue PC with an Alistair (Tank), Morrigan (R-DPS) and Wynne (Healer) party - and I'm seriously finding it a breeze, maybe even easier than a Normal playthough with my old party. I just finished killing the Circle of Magi boss - who literally went down on the very first try, without a single member in my party dying. Between Alistair tanking with regenerate on and occasional heals from Wynne, and my rogue backstabbing like crazy, there was frankly no contest.



In fact - and I'm not saying this to brag - I actually checked game difficulty several times to make sure it's set to Nightmare, because I just can't believe how easy the game is turning out to be when played and managed more or less properly.

[Janiceps]

DapperDan77 wrote...

Is there any chance of getting either Nightmare difficulty reworked, or getting a "Beyond Nightmare" difficulty setting in the next patch please Bioware? I was hoping for a solid challenge that would require me using every party member to the fullest and stretching my tactical capabilities. As it is, I can basically just run in and auto-attack and everything drops within seconds, including boss-level creatures.
 imo it should be close to impossible to solo nightmare difficulty, but even solo, nightmare isn't too rough. Which is a shame, as it takes quite a lot of the feeling of reward from building a well-designed character and setting them loose. Awakening is even worse with all the overpowered new talents(Accuracy and Spirit Warrior spring to mind).

AGREE.  I can't tell the difference between Hard and Nightmare difficulty setting.   What is the difference exactly ???

[Dynamomark]

SendarkCh wrote...
In fact - and I'm not saying this to brag - I actually checked game difficulty several times to make sure it's set to Nightmare, because I just can't believe how easy the game is turning out to be when played and managed more or less properly.

It does get easier on the second playthrough. Both of my playthroughs were on nightmare, and I finished the second one in half the time. It seems to me the hardest areas are Brecillian Forest and Orzamaar. If you had done Brecillian Forest first rather than the Circle, you might've found the game more challenging.

Janiceps wrote...
AGREE.  I can't tell the difference between Hard and Nightmare difficulty setting.   What is the difference exactly ???

If you like math...

[bussinrounds]

I don't know about just running in, auto-attacking, and everything dies in seconds on nightmare. Sounds like an over-exaggeration to me. I haven't played awakening yet, but i do agree that it's too easy, as i found myself looking at the options to see if it got switched off nightmare by mistake.

I also use some house rules of my own - Reload whenever a party member " goes down " - No healing spells for offensive mages, only cleric types like Wynne. No storm spells indoors. No force fielding your own guys. Don't take overpowered partys.

Modifié par bussinrounds, 12 septembre 2010 - 07:57 .

[JeCy108]

if you find the game to easy,  Stop making potions,  Only use the potions you find...

I dare you to play the game on nightmare, Never buy potion supplies from the elves or mage tower,  Skip wyyne, and dont get a heal on morrigan..

then post how the game is WAY to easy..   I think you might be in for a bigg suprise..

[Janiceps]

Dynamomark wrote...

There are plenty of mods that make the game more difficult. Look at this and this, for example. I highly doubt Bioware will make a patch to increase the difficulty, and frankly, I'd rather they fix bugs. But perhaps Bioware could make the game more difficult on nightmare in DA2.

I am very tempted to add this addon to the computer.  but does this mod change the program tremendously ?  I read the descriptions but still it is confusing to me.    IS there any bugs ?

[Alauzhen]

You guys tried Nightmare with Golem DLC? That's probably what you guys are asking for I suppose? To mix it up, I completed it by rolling a new character on Nightmare. Only problem was, I wiped 14 times before I finally read about the "switch" being able to kill off the skelly adds. Otherwise, I kept dying on the 2nd incarnation with it at 50% health.



If that's what you want for your nightmare encounter, just keep playing with a whitewashed lvl 20 character for golem DLC and see how many times you can take down the harvester without the switch.



Have fun, because I know I had.

[Janiceps]

Loria232 wrote...

JeCy108 wrote...

if you find the game to easy,  Stop making potions,  Only use the potions you find...

I dare you to play the game on nightmare, Never buy potion supplies from the elves or mage tower,  Skip wyyne, and dont get a heal on morrigan..

then post how the game is WAY to easy..   I think you might be in for a bigg suprise..

oh you can do that,if you're Arcane Warrior/Spirit Healer/Battle Mage,you don't even need pesky little companions:devil:
AW is godlike   Maker himself :innocent:

Is this possible ???   I thought this multi character was not possible in Dragon age. ???   closest thing i have seen is Arcane worrier that can fight and cast Some few spells too.   but not anything close to the real mage..

[Janiceps]

Loria232 wrote...

Janiceps wrote...

Loria232 wrote...

JeCy108 wrote...

if you find the game to easy,  Stop making potions,  Only use the potions you find...

I dare you to play the game on nightmare, Never buy potion supplies from the elves or mage tower,  Skip wyyne, and dont get a heal on morrigan..

then post how the game is WAY to easy..   I think you might be in for a bigg suprise..

oh you can do that,if you're Arcane Warrior/Spirit Healer/Battle Mage,you don't even need pesky little companions:devil:
AW is godlike   Maker himself :innocent:

Is this possible ???   I thought this multi character was not possible in Dragon age. ???   closest thing i have seen is Arcane worrier that can fight and cast Some few spells too.   but not anything close to the real mage..

Battle Mage is Awakening specialization other two are from Origins(you can take 2 specializations)
It's possible my brother did it (well mostly,there are parts when you just have to take someone with you)
AW is overpowered thus good for solo runs
But me, i'm not that crazy , i usually go with Sten or Alistair you know, just a distraction,they are expendable 
i don't use health potions ( only what i find) since i'm a spirit healer 

That said, i still think it's too easy 
except GoA that's 

CAn you start out as Worrior and become also the fully functioning Mage as well after specialization ??  Is that called Arcane worrier ?   Isn't there a spell limit though ??

[Janiceps]

Loria232 wrote...

Janiceps wrote...

Loria232 wrote...

Janiceps wrote...

Loria232 wrote...

JeCy108 wrote...

if you find the game to easy,  Stop making potions,  Only use the potions you find...

I dare you to play the game on nightmare, Never buy potion supplies from the elves or mage tower,  Skip wyyne, and dont get a heal on morrigan..

then post how the game is WAY to easy..   I think you might be in for a bigg suprise..

oh you can do that,if you're Arcane Warrior/Spirit Healer/Battle Mage,you don't even need pesky little companions:devil:
AW is godlike   Maker himself :innocent:

Is this possible ???   I thought this multi character was not possible in Dragon age. ???   closest thing i have seen is Arcane worrier that can fight and cast Some few spells too.   but not anything close to the real mage..

Battle Mage is Awakening specialization other two are from Origins(you can take 2 specializations)
It's possible my brother did it (well mostly,there are parts when you just have to take someone with you)
AW is overpowered thus good for solo runs
But me, i'm not that crazy , i usually go with Sten or Alistair you know, just a distraction,they are expendable 
i don't use health potions ( only what i find) since i'm a spirit healer 

That said, i still think it's too easy 
except GoA that's 

CAn you start out as Worrior and become also the fully functioning Mage as well after specialization ??  Is that called Arcane worrier ?   Isn't there a spell limit though ??

lolwut?
no....
you must be a mage
AW is a mage specialization 

Oh Darn, so i should have started out as a Mage then ???   there is a button on my worrior that saids Arcane.   I thought once that unlocks i could become like a Mage as well ?????????????

[Janiceps]

Loria232 wrote...

''Oh Darn, so i should have started out as a Mage then ???''
yes

Can i change my Worrior to Mage class now. ??  He is 5th level worrior.    there is a Bioware Cheat code that lets you change class in midgame.   I am still early in the game, just finished part 2 Ostagar--in lothering.   I just wonder if it will mess up the storyline and confuse the game program.   From part 2 on, is there a huge story difference between mage and Worrior class ????  below is the cheatcode

runscript wizard XX - Changes the main character into a level XX wizard