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[JnEricsonx]

I love the Widow, don't get me wrong, but the Mantis looks a bit cooler, plus, I hate the why-is-it-there supports on the bottom of the Widow, since they server no purpose.

[JaegerBane]

JnEricsonx wrote...

I love the Widow, don't get me wrong, but the Mantis looks a bit cooler, plus, I hate the why-is-it-there supports on the bottom of the Widow, since they server no purpose.

This is a single player game - if you think something looks better or sounds cooler, then go for it.

Personally I think the model for the Widow is really cool and I've never been a fan of the Mantis model, even back in ME1.

From an efficiency perspective, there's very litle reason why you'd stick with the Mantis, as it functionally it's a completely inferior rifle.

[AntiChri5]

Screw efficiency or effectiveness, do what you want.



You paid for the game, its your right to play however you enjoy.



Thats what its all about.



The only "wrong" weapon choice is one you do not enjoy.

[Tlazolteotl]

Run mantis + shotgun. It's sweet.

[Gravbh]

Tlazolteotl wrote...

Run mantis + shotgun. It's sweet.

I agree. If I pick up another weapon on the collector ship over the widow I always run with the mantis, on both soldier and infiltrator. I hate semi-auto sniper rifles with a passion, in any game I've ever played that has them.

The mantis isn't a bad gun at all, it's just that the widow is a straight upgrade instead of a different variety of gun so everyone writes it off.

[swn32]

Not at all, If you are planning on AR or Shotgun specialization you might want to stick with the Mantis.

[khevan]

The Mantis isn't a bad rifle. I rather like the Mantis, actually. The Widow totally rocks, in my opinion, so I usually go for it on my Infiltrator playthrus, but I've considered a CQC Infiltrator that rolls with a SG, the Mantis, and the Locust. Never got around to playing it, but I might next time thru.

[Bozorgmehr]

If you want to one-shot-kill normal enemies on Insanity; you'll need the Widow to do this about halfway through (Mantis can do the same up to level 15 or so - with the right upgrades and ammo).



If you're not playing on Insanity or don't mind having to shoot enemies a couple of times before killing them - Mantis and Viper (my favourite SR) are very useful.

[numotsbane]

I actually think CQC infiltrators are way way way more fun, and as such always roll without the widow. seriously, CQC infiltrators... beastly.

but then I go right ahead and take widow with my soldier. so maybe you could just say I'm a little wierd.

[Cypher0020]

are CQC really that good? I'm not at the Collector ship yet..but I'm torn between the AR or the Widow that everyone talks so much about....

[numotsbane]

YES.

well maybe. I think they sure are.

for me, time dilation sniping gets old. I mean, I love the widow, and it kills everything in the room so well... but I just don't get the variety.

just ran through samaras recruitment with my CQCI (with flashbang, of course). without the sniper dominating, the infiltrators' powers really shine. incinerate for stripping armor and finishing, Squad cryo for crowd control, flashbang for stunning, cloak with shotgun for the up close and personal deathblow.

I just find it so much more interesting.

[Cypher0020]

welll do you find the shotty or the AR more useful? I love my vanguard w/claymore...but the AR is nice..... is it the vindicator or avenger you get to pick from?

[tommyt_1994]

Cypher0020 wrote...

welll do you find the shotty or the AR more useful? I love my vanguard w/claymore...but the AR is nice..... is it the vindicator or avenger you get to pick from?

It doesn't work like that, when you take AR training on the collector ship, you can use any assault rifle in the game.(besides Revenant) That Includes the Mattock, Collector Rifle, Geth Pulse Rifle, Avenger, and the Vindicator.

Modifié par tommyt_1994, 09 août 2010 - 01:30 .

[numotsbane]

with the locust, I don't find as much use for an AR. but then, I'm yet to try the mattock so I can't comment on that. the AR choices are:

GPR, Vindicator, Avenger (you just choose 'AR training' at the collector ship, and pick weapon on a mission by mission basis, similar to heavy pistols and etc) - and then the Collector rifle and mattock can be aquired but not within the 'standard game'.

the locust is like th GPR but with a smaller clip and more punch. so I don't find AR's to add as much to the infiltrator, as its not a class likely to run out of ammo.

The shotgun is really good if you're really close, and infiltrators are one of he few classes that can get really close with ease. So I'd say, in summary:



my favourite build is:

Mantis; Locust; Eviscerator; Predator

the evi can insta-kill up close. an AR can't. big difference.

[PsyrenY]

Gravbh wrote...


I agree. If I pick up another weapon on the collector ship over the widow I always run with the mantis, on both soldier and infiltrator. I hate semi-auto sniper rifles with a passion, in any game I've ever played that has them.

Widow isn't semi-auto, you're thinking of Incisor. Widow reloads after every shot just like Mantis does.

I definitely agree though, Mantis is fine for infiltrator, especially if you grab an Eviscerator for backup. There's an awesome video of a shotogun infiltrator owning Collectors solo on Insanity here.

[numotsbane]

I think he means the mantis over the viper or incisor, as he already excluded the widow. sentence construction would lead me to believe so, anyway.

the choice is really limited to widow or shotgun. especially if you have the locust. if you don't, well, you might want an assault ri- nonono! can't do it! must take shotgun.

[Pacifien]

I do love the Widow, but I don't get it more than 3/4ths of the way into my game. If the Mantis has served you well up until that point, it will continue to serve you well.

One time I picked up the assault rifle with my Infiltrator, but the Tempest/Locust served my purposes much better. This is because I will use a sniper rifle until I absolutely have to change to another weapon for close quarter combat. Just think an SMG is better for that. Haven't had a chance to try the Mattock yet. I get the impression it is awesome.

Another time I picked up the shotgun, because it's even better than the SMG for close quarters.

But yeah, I'm just a Widow junkie.

[NICKjnp]

numotsbane wrote...

I think he means the mantis over the viper or incisor, as he already excluded the widow. sentence construction would lead me to believe so, anyway.
the choice is really limited to widow or shotgun. especially if you have the locust. if you don't, well, you might want an assault ri- nonono! can't do it! must take shotgun.

Or you can just mod every weapon in... you know you want to.

[numotsbane]

curse my 360 and its lack of pain-free and easy modding!

[NICKjnp]

numotsbane wrote...

curse my 360 and its lack of pain-free and easy modding!

I have a 360... and the modding is pain-free enough.

[epoch_]

do whatever you want. It's a single player game. You don't need to go with the most powerful gun, just because everyone else is.

[epoch_]

NICKjnp wrote...

numotsbane wrote...

curse my 360 and its lack of pain-free and easy modding!

I have a 360... and the modding is pain-free enough.

except for the whole, logging into xbox live gets your console bricked, part...

[NICKjnp]

Nope... you aren't modding the 360. You are modding a save file on your computer.

[Pacifien]

Yes, there's a difference between modding the console itself and modding a save game file. Just need an transfer cable for the hard drive, then follow instructions here.