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[Wyndham711]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

Wyndham711 wrote...

Yeah, I pay more for a PC, but none of that invested money actually goes to the developers who make/port the games I then go on buying for the platform. It's a moot point from the point of view of the devs.

...And the extra buck for the console games does?

No, it doesn't. But I wasn't originally talking about the prices of the platforms anyway, they don't bear relevance when I'm wondering why exactly should I be justified to expect anything extra from the PC versions multiplatform games. Sure, games designed exclusively for the PC should make full use of the platform's capabilities, just like console exclusives tend to make good use of their respective platforms. The dilemma I have is specifically with the multiplatform titles.

[BomimoDK]

Spear-Thrower wrote...

flem1 wrote...

That's why Diablo 3 isn't going to sell any copies.

oh, so Diablo 3 is an RPG suddenly? Not a hack n slash game?

always have been. The genre is very broad and i'll have to say that Diablo leans more towards RPG than anything else. It's hack'n'whack, it's got quests though simple ones. it's got gear and skill progression. what most RPG's have. it's got a damn short and shallow story to deliver the package. but an RPG can take a grand **** on story and still be an RPG.

Diable= ActionRPG or ARPG

[AlanC9]

Spear-Thrower wrote...


I think turn-based is outdated as an RPG feature, but not for tactical battle games.

One of my favorites is King's Bounty the Legend (and sequel Armored Princess) and every fight is turn-based, and isometric. The hours I've lost to those 2 games...

Oddly enough, the wargaming community turned against turn-based systems for tactical battles back in the mid-70s. That's why AD&D has the wonky initiative system rather than being  turn-based like 3.0. Though turn-based works just fine as long as you're not trying to make a simulation.

Why is TB outdated for RPGs, though?

[Rubbish Hero]

Been saying it factually from the start, console game.  The almighty dollar has won, say goodbye to CRPG's and hello to Mass Effect. Expect all marketing and review copies sent to major websites to be console versions. Game is doomed.

Modifié par Rubbish Hero, 08 août 2010 - 08:27 .

[QQNwizard]

Modifié par QQNwizard, 08 août 2010 - 08:39 .

[joriandrake]

BomimoDK wrote...

Spear-Thrower wrote...

flem1 wrote...

That's why Diablo 3 isn't going to sell any copies.

oh, so Diablo 3 is an RPG suddenly? Not a hack n slash game?

always have been. The genre is very broad and i'll have to say that Diablo leans more towards RPG than anything else. It's hack'n'whack, it's got quests though simple ones. it's got gear and skill progression. what most RPG's have. it's got a damn short and shallow story to deliver the package. but an RPG can take a grand **** on story and still be an RPG.

Diable= ActionRPG or ARPG

if people start discussing what RPG is again, this thread will also get locked for sure

[Vulee94]

The dynamic duo is back, it seems...

[QQNwizard]

JoePinasi1989 wrote...

QQNwizard wrote...

Well. How the tables have turned.

Currently I deem DA:O > The Witcher 1.

It seems once the sequels come out, it will be more like this:
The Witcher 2 > DAII

They haven't turned quite yet, I should say.

They have for me. Isometric view was really the thing I loved most about DAO. I also used quite a few mods in it too. Now that they are taking it away, what's left? The storytelling? Well gee thanks, but the Witcher has better storytelling too. Everything isn't all sunshine and ponies, and choices are actually grey, not distinctively black and white / good and evil like in DA. 

Modifié par QQNwizard, 08 août 2010 - 08:44 .

[In Exile]

QQNwizard wrote...
They have for me. Isometric view was really the thing I loved most about DAO. I also used quite a few mods in it too. Now that they are taking it away, what's left? The storytelling? Well gee thanks, but the Witcher has better storytelling too. Everything isn't all sunshine and ponies, and choices are actually grey, not distinctively black and white / good and evil like in DA. 

You are aware that the Witcher will feature paraphrasing, QTE, more action-oriented combat, and has a fixed non-customizable human protagonist, yes? i.e. it has all of the features that people here seem to dislike in DA2.

[Senzen Sumnor]

slimgrin wrote...

Spear-Thrower wrote...

Kotor didn't have an 'isometric' camera and the combat was fine. Zooming out too far feels like a RTS game, like you're viewing the battlefield from space. It's for people who like to toss fireballs on unprepared enemies.

Is there anything wrong with having both options? I happen to like the strategic element overhead view provides. 

Again, letting the player decide how they want to approach the game rather than railroading them is the best approach - for any platform.

This, let's not get into psychological analysis of those that like the tactical cam vs. OTS cam.  I like both and want both.

[QQNwizard]

In Exile wrote...

QQNwizard wrote...
They have for me. Isometric view was really the thing I loved most about DAO. I also used quite a few mods in it too. Now that they are taking it away, what's left? The storytelling? Well gee thanks, but the Witcher has better storytelling too. Everything isn't all sunshine and ponies, and choices are actually grey, not distinctively black and white / good and evil like in DA. 

You are aware that the Witcher will feature paraphrasing, QTE, more action-oriented combat, and has a fixed non-customizable human protagonist, yes? i.e. it has all of the features that people here seem to dislike in DA2.

Paraphrasing, because it was created by a non-American/English company. Expected. 

QTE offers more choice than just watching a predetermined cut scene unfold.

I am aware they have action oriented combat, because I played the first one. At least they advertise as such, unlike DA and Bioware who just removes a key feature of its tactical nature simply due to not caring about the PC version anymore. By the way, The Witcher 2 is made primarily with the PC in mind. Consoles are being considered, but at this point it's only speculation. PC is first. 

And is Hawke really customizable anymore? He's locked in to be human too. Sure, you can choose gender and facial structure and whatnot, but compared to the first game a lot of customization options were taken away. Regardless of how you change his appearance, his origin story will be the same. So, disregarding cosmetics, both the Witcher and DA2 will have fixed non customizable human protagonists, as you say. 

Modifié par QQNwizard, 08 août 2010 - 09:16 .