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why won't the system's alliance just provide safe havens for the quarians?


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FuturePasTimeCE

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 :( they should be evacuated from the migrant fleet and into some type of shelter to shield them from the geth robots... 

wish the quarians had their own Fort Zion (Matrix) or something... 

shephard want keep Zorah onboard his vessel (she could be like the trance chick from Andromeda... a personal assistant of the commander)... 

Modifié par FuturePasTimeCE, 08 août 2010 - 06:12 .


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Because the Quarians want their homeworld back, not just any replacement.

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caradoc2000 wrote...

Because the Quarians want their homeworld back, not just any replacement.

there's nothing wrong with extra safety until then... 

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They've already had three centuries, and the galaxy has lots of uninhabited planets to choose from. They will settle for nothing less than their original world.

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caradoc2000 wrote...

They've already had three centuries, and the galaxy has lots of uninhabited planets to choose from. They will settle for nothing less than their original world.

:unsure: the idea of survival is more important...

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Hmm, because they don't need to do? Also, what would the Alliance gain with that?

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FuturePasTimeCE wrote...

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png[/smilie] the idea of survival is more important...

Not to the Quarian, apparently.

Modifié par caradoc2000, 08 août 2010 - 08:48 .


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caradoc2000 wrote...

Because the Quarians want their homeworld back, not just any replacement.


there's this reason to consider ^

also, if you take Tali with you up into the area where you speak to the council & talk to her, she'll mention something about the quarian's past relationship/dealings with the council on the geth

I don't know if it had any effect on the Alliance's view of the quarians, or if they're still too new to get involved in it 

Modifié par AriesXX7, 09 août 2010 - 03:48 .


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Why would the Systems Alliance do that? What benefit would there be that would convince Alliance leadership to spend all the effort to establish a self sufficient shelter for 17 million aliens who don't even have formal relations with Earth.



Also the geth haven't pursued the Quarians out of the veil so they don't really need "shielding" from them.

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By the time the Systems Alliance enters the galactic social scene, the quarians' plight is already history. Not only that, but the Alliance is only just starting the expansion of their own sphere of influence. Why should they suddenly make an alliance with the quarians at this stage? Such alliances are political, economical, and require more than a simple sympathy for a civilizations' plight.

Not only that, but the quarians appear resistent to the idea of colonization. Admiral Korlus's whole platform rests on the idea of the Migrant Fleet colonizing a new world. His opposition wants war against the geth to reclaim their homeworld. Neither side is up to relinquishing one bit of the quarian resources, so it appears they're going to have to agree to one strategy or another.

And going even further, colonization itself is tricky business. First, they need a planet that aligns with their own dextro-based morphology. If they don't, that's already one hurdle in their colonizing plans. Second, their focus will need to be in building an infrastructure -- forget about their homeworld for a few centuries more. Third, colonies are vulnerable to attack. One Taetrus-size attack and the whole species is wiped out.

If the quarians were serious about help, they'd have better luck opening up negotiations with the turians, which probably will completely hinge on the quarians becoming a client race to the turians much as the volus are.

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Madarao Saemon

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Pacifien, how did you get that profile pic?

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caradoc2000 wrote...

Because the Quarians want their homeworld back, not just any replacement.


and because they will not need to wear suits just in their planet, any other planet's ecosystem would force them to wear suits

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why give them a place? why not send Legion to negotiate so the quarians and geth can live together tell they fight then send fart bombs raning down upon them!!! jk about the last part!

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Logistics, for one. The Migrant Fleet contains slightly more than twice the combined population of humanity's two largest extrasolar colonies.

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not only that but how would you get everyone planet side a lot of the ships in the migrant fleet are too rickety big or important to land

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Archontor wrote...

not only that but how would you get everyone planet side a lot of the ships in the migrant fleet are too rickety big or important to land

That is probably the least of your problems. The do have some form of shuttles in the ME universe.

Even if the Quarians would want something like this (there's a conversation with Tali in ME2 that explaines why the Quarians haven't settled down on some uninhabited planet yet), no government would be happy about such a huge influx of refugees. Just look at the issues surrounding refugees here on present day earth.

Terra Firma would have a field day.


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Raygereio wrote...

Archontor wrote...

not only that but how would you get everyone planet side a lot of the ships in the migrant fleet are too rickety big or important to land

That is probably the least of your problems. The do have some form of shuttles in the ME universe.

Even if the Quarians would want something like this (there's a conversation with Tali in ME2 that explaines why the Quarians haven't settled down on some uninhabited planet yet), no government would be happy about such a huge influx of refugees. Just look at the issues surrounding refugees here on present day earth.

Terra Firma would have a field day.


whilst the shuttles could carry citizens the quarians main resources are their ships so they would need some way to get them planetside

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There's also the minor detail that the Quarians are on the other side of the galaxy and haven't even made formal contact with the Alliance yet. Just saying.



That said, I do think it would have been interesting if, say, instead of the Turians stumbling across humanity, it had been the Quarians.

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Also the Alliance already have a low popularity in the galaxy so allying with even more unpopular quarians is something they can not afford politicaly. And Cerberus has basicaly ruined the little trust humanity had among the quarians.

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The Migrant Fleet has not entered a Alliance controlled system yet, all we know about them is some word of mouth info and a rough estimation to their population, as well as not knowing how bad their immune systems are.

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It's not their job or responsibility.

Dean_the_Young wrote...

That said, I do think it would have been interesting if, say, instead of
the Turians stumbling across humanity, it had been the Quarians.


I've wondered about that too. I suppose there would have been no First Contact War. Or at least no occupation of Shanxi. The quarian military doesn't take any chances with their fleet so if they happened to pop out of the relay and an alien fleet was on the other side, one which couldn't be communicated with, they might open fire. I can't imagine them invading the colony though.

In the end humanity would probably come out of it alright. I think a large part of the reason humanity gets slack for the FCW is because we were at war with a Council species. Had been a non-Council species, especially one as un-popular as the quarians, we'd probably be seen more as the victims.

What if though... we had started exploration two-thousand years earlier and it was the krogan we ran into?

Modifié par Shandepared, 23 septembre 2010 - 07:21 .


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Shandepared wrote...

It's not their job or responsibility.

Dean_the_Young wrote...

That said, I do think it would have been interesting if, say, instead of
the Turians stumbling across humanity, it had been the Quarians.


I've wondered about that too. I suppose there would have been no First Contact War. Or at least no occupation of Shanxi. The quarian military doesn't take any chances with their fleet so if they happened to pop out of the relay and an alien fleet was on the other side, one which couldn't be communicated with, they might open fire. I can't imagine them invading the colony though.

In the end humanity would probably come out of it alright. I think a large part of the reason humanity gets slack for the FCW is because we were at war with a Council species. Had been a non-Council species, especially one as un-popular as the quarians, we'd probably be seen more as the victims.

What if though... we had started exploration two-thousand years earlier and it was the krogan we ran into?



A large part of the problem that people see with humanity about that is how well we did, and how willing we were to obliterate a turian patrol completely.

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Why would we let them steal our resources and pollute our worlds? In fact if they park their flotilla over a human colony I expect Admiral Hackett to show up and do some ass-kicking.

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Because their whinging can travel through the vacuum of space.