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[Sjofn]

Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...

You mean, the guy who flapped in like a vulture as my family was being murdered and then levered my dad into a Faustian deal for my soul just before my dad coughed up his lungful of blood (as though I wasn't standing there)? The guy who invoked his supposed Right of Conscription to force me into his bizarre and poorly-managed little cult (and who later demonstrated in a most bloody fashion what would have happened to me had I resisted)?

Yes, I cried when he died, but only because his death came a few weeks too late.

Hahaha, I thought I was the only one who thought this about Duncan. Not that I wished his death on him especially, but during the human noble origin I was all, "Man, what a freaking dick." I like the varying degrees of dickishness he displays in the various origins, though, he's actually pretty nice in both the dwarf origins, something of a bastard in the Dalish elf one, etc.

Also he wasn't THAT great at picking recruits. I could tell two seconds after talking to Ser Jory that he would be a terrible Grey Warden.

[zahra]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

While I understand that Duncan's death was neccessary for plot purposes

C'mon! Why? Wynne escaped unscathed!

Good point.  At least you still have the option to kill Wynne, I if you wanted.

It made me wonder, how since the Circle sent so few mages, and yet most if not all of them are alive after the events at Ostagar.  What were they doing and why weren't they using their amazing cc abilities during the battle?  Did they not want to get their robes dirty?

Yeah, where were the freaking fireballs when the horde was approaching? 

[thegreateski]

Arthur Cousland wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

While I understand that Duncan's death was neccessary for plot purposes

C'mon! Why? Wynne escaped unscathed!

Good point.  At least you still have the option to kill Wynne, I if you wanted.

It made me wonder, how since the Circle sent so few mages, and yet most if not all of them are alive after the events at Ostagar.  What were they doing and why weren't they using their amazing cc abilities during the battle?  Did they not want to get their robes dirty?

Yup. They ran. Much like Loghain.

I didn't think it was possible but it made Wynne seem like even MORE of a hypocrite.

[Arthur Cousland]

Yes, where was storm of the century at the opening of the battle? They could have spared the poor mabari.

[wyvernix]

thegreateski wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

While I understand that Duncan's death was neccessary for plot purposes

C'mon! Why? Wynne escaped unscathed!

Good point.  At least you still have the option to kill Wynne, I if you wanted.

It made me wonder, how since the Circle sent so few mages, and yet most if not all of them are alive after the events at Ostagar.  What were they doing and why weren't they using their amazing cc abilities during the battle?  Did they not want to get their robes dirty?

Yup. They ran. Much like Loghain.

I didn't think it was possible but it made Wynne seem like even MORE of a hypocrite.

I think it has to do with the revered mother mouthing them off at the war council, but that's just me.

[Gandalf-the-Fabulous]

SirOccam wrote...

Gandalf-the-Fabulous wrote...

It has been hinted that Duncan will return in Dragon Age 2 as apparently one of the party members in Dragon Age 2 is a disgraced grey warden who fled the battle at Ostagar, could that be Duncan?

Duncan's definitely dead, but where did you hear this hint that one of the party members could be a disgraced Grey Warden?

Oh yeah I forgot they haddnt released that information to the public yet, just forget I said anything.

[thenemesis77]

Riordan was cool all the way up untill he fell off the archdemon's wing, how he fell from so far up.....I was like.....BHAHAHAHA, it made my damn day and it shows your Warden seeing it all! I have no love lose for that old ****.

[thenemesis77]

He was lame and he comes out of nowhere to try and take charge.....after your Warden did all the damn work.......I was like ****** off. I was overjoyed when he took a nose dive.

[thenemesis77]

wyvernix wrote...

thegreateski wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

captain.subtle wrote...

Arthur Cousland wrote...

While I understand that Duncan's death was neccessary for plot purposes

C'mon! Why? Wynne escaped unscathed!

Good point.  At least you still have the option to kill Wynne, I if you wanted.

It made me wonder, how since the Circle sent so few mages, and yet most if not all of them are alive after the events at Ostagar.  What were they doing and why weren't they using their amazing cc abilities during the battle?  Did they not want to get their robes dirty?

Yup. They ran. Much like Loghain.

I didn't think it was possible but it made Wynne seem like even MORE of a hypocrite.

I think it has to do with the revered mother mouthing them off at the war council, but that's just me.

The old chantry hags try to tell everyone what to do, I wanted to tell her to ****** off and leave the mages alone.

[Ken555]

Yeah, at least you can threaten the revered mother in Lothering.

[Danjaru]

Some further character development with Duncan would've been nice. Like you accompanying him on some task or whatever, and a few conversations. To my human noble he was just a jackass who's supposed to be this ultra powerful warrior but didn't even help my family, yet wants a reward for it. He was better on my Dwarf Commoner playthrough though.

Modifié par Danjaru, 09 août 2010 - 01:48 .

[RogueGeth]

Yeah I mean why can't we pull a Duncan and Right of Conscript on his arse. Can't get that guy you want? Right of Conscription! I mean seriously we only did that once and that was with Anders in DA:A.

[Aedan_Cousland]

thenemesis77 wrote...

He was lame and he comes out of nowhere to try and take charge.....after your Warden did all the damn work.......I was like ****** off. I was overjoyed when he took a nose dive.

Your Warden didn't do all the work.

Without Riordan wounding the Archdemon it never gets stranded on top of Fort Drakon, and your Warden never gets a shot at him. The dragon would have still been airborne.

Whether or not you think Riordan's death was 'lame', your Warden didn't do all the work. He or she needed Riordan to strand the Archdemon on top of the Fort.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 09 août 2010 - 02:10 .

[bla2]

i remember when i first played origins i said: wow duncan is soooo cool, i hope he becomes a party member.

then like 10 mins later he dies!

[RogueGeth]

Well what if they were out of range?

[Dave of Canada]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Your Warden didn't do all the work.

Without Riordan wounding the Archdemon it never gets stranded on top of Fort Drakon, and your Warden never gets a shot at him. The dragon would have still been airborne.

Whether or not you think Riordan's death was 'lame', your Warden didn't do all the work. He or she needed Riordan to strand the Archdemon on top of the Fort.

I've killed the Archdemon a dozen times with only the balistas ontop of Fort Drakon, I'm sure in the air wouldn't have made much of a difference.

[Aedan_Cousland]

jln.francisco wrote...

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

He was lame and he comes out of nowhere to try and take charge.....after your Warden did all the damn work.......I was like ****** off. I was overjoyed when he took a nose dive.

Your Warden didn't do all the work.

Without Riordan wounding the Archdemon it never gets stranded on top of Fort Dragon and your Warden never gets a shot at him. The dragon would have still been airborne.

Whether or not you think Riordan's death was 'lame', your Warden didn't do all the work.

again, siege equipment/mages would have been able to take out a wing and grounded the bastard.

Speculation.

They might have been able to do it. They may have also tried and failed. Considering the old maxim that even the best laid plans don't survive contact with the enemy, Riordan taking a shot at the beast when the oppurtunity presented itself makes sense.

I've killed the Archdemon a dozen times with only the balistas ontop of Fort Drakon, I'm sure in the air wouldn't have made much of a difference.

When the dragon was limited to fighting on top of Fort Drakon.

Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 09 août 2010 - 02:15 .

[Dave of Canada]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

When the dragon was limited to fighting on top of Fort Drakon.

He lifted up off the ground a few times and flew to the other side of the area, he could've easily have flown down too!

[thenemesis77]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

thenemesis77 wrote...

He was lame and he comes out of nowhere to try and take charge.....after your Warden did all the damn work.......I was like ****** off. I was overjoyed when he took a nose dive.

Your Warden didn't do all the work.

Without Riordan wounding the Archdemon it never gets stranded on top of Fort Drakon, and your Warden never gets a shot at him. The dragon would have still been airborne.

Whether or not you think Riordan's death was 'lame', your Warden didn't do all the work. He or she needed Riordan to strand the Archdemon on top of the Fort.

Oh please, cry me a river for Riordan, yea he jumped off the tower and then took a nose dive off the Archdemon and having to know that there was no damn way to kill it up that far and he was {lame} for being so reckless.  If he wanted to be the one as he said to take the final blow, bring your old butt up to the tower Iam going to and again, thats not the only way to bring it down and the OP said.  I just could not stand the guy and I reveled in his fall from so far up,

No the Warden I guess didn't do it all, had some of the other people like Morrigan that was the only other party member that was not a panywaste and didn't cry like a baby like the rest of the party did. No, just your Warden did all the leg work  not the old man Riordan.

[Aedan_Cousland]

[quote]Dave of Canada wrote...

[quote]Aedan_Cousland wrote...

When the dragon was limited to fighting on top of Fort Drakon.[/quote]

He lifted up off the ground a few times and flew to the other side of the area, he could've easily have flown down too!

[/quote]
Fort Drakon was the death place of the Archdemon, Urthemiel, during the Fifth Blight. The senior Grey Warden, Riordan, having failed to kill the Archdemon, only managed to incapacitate its wings thereby causing it to land on the roof of the fortress. The Warden and the party secured the fortress from within during the Battle of Denerim before confronting the Archdemon on the roof with the aid of Ferelden's elite warriors.[/quote]

http://dragonage.wik...iki/Fort_Drakon

The Archdemon was wounded by Riordan and incapable of anything but short bursts of flight. It was stranded on the roof of Fort Drakon when you first encounter it.