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[Osena109]

ok we know there is gunpowder in Awakening so is it possible there could be flintlock pistols and Rifles in DA universe?

[Risax]

This isn't Fable...

Also most of the story is in the same time period as Origins and Awakening, and I doubt the Qunari give up the advantage they have on the humans.

[thegreateski]

Negative.



Gunpowder is a Qunari thing. They use it for their cannons.



The Human equivalent would be mages.

[Osena109]

That is a vary good point form tactical stand point and i have never played this Fable you speck of

[DetailedSubset]

Also given the level of industrial development in Thedas it seems unlikely they would have the technology necessary for rifling or flintlocks, even in Par Vollen. Especially given that Sten wears plate armour and uses a two-handed sword - not the mark of a society advanced enough to develop rifling.



Sorry to rant but the question annoyed me.

[Giant ambush beetle]

The first guns invented and used in combat in the late middle ages weren't Flintlock rifles, they were MATCHLOCK rifles! A burning match on a lever ignited the powder in the pan, not a flint. Big difference. (Christopher Columbus had soldiers with matchlock rifles, 1492)



As much as I love guns, thats a big NO, Dragon Age has absolutely nothing to do with guns. (Ok, Qunaris have cannons but thats it)

[Osena109]

Thank you The Woldan you lern something new every day this is frist i have herd of matchlock rifles

[DetailedSubset]

The Woldan wrote...

The first guns invented and used in combat in the late middle ages weren't Flintlock rifles, they were MATCHLOCK rifles! A burning match on a lever ignited the powder in the pan, not a flint. Big difference. (Christopher Columbus had soldiers with matchlock rifles, 1492) 

As much as I love guns, thats a big NO, Dragon Age has absolutely nothing to do with guns. (Ok, Qunaris have cannons but thats it)

Not rifles, muskets. Rifleing is an important difference in a firearm and not developed until late in the 17th centuary.

Modifié par DetailedSubset, 08 août 2010 - 09:29 .

[Giant ambush beetle]

Ah damn, muskets of course!

However, some very early firearms had a rifled (straight rifling) barrel, instead of spinning the projectile the rifling helped to collect the powder residue to avoid the barrel getting clogged.  

[Maverick827]

The Woldan wrote...

Dragon Age has absolutely nothing to do with guns.

This is absolutely false.  If the writing team wants Dragon Age to parallel the real world (and this fact is unarguably true given the lore as we know it), then firearms will have to appear at some point given that gunpowder exists.  It would be a breach of logic for this to not occur.

[Sirsmirkalot]

You're talking about a breach of logic in a fantasy world that has magic, demons and Elves.

[Heimdall]

Sten says no... which is ironic since he's a qunari. Still, only cannons, no rifles or muskets what have you...

[captain.subtle]

Sirsmirkalot wrote...

You're talking about a breach of logic in a fantasy world that has magic, demons and Elves.

THIS. IS. Voice of reason speaketh. Listen well.

[captain.subtle]

Geralt was killed by a Pitchfork.

[TheMadCat]

Sirsmirkalot wrote...

You're talking about a breach of logic in a fantasy world that has magic, demons and Elves.

What is logical with a fantasy world to begin with though? Isn't a fantasy world whatever the creator wants it to be?

[Iscaredeath]

I've read in another thread that Guns, Muskets, Rifles, or whatever you want to call them will not be in Dragon age 2. Though it is a possibility that later on in the Dragon age saga Gunpowder weapons will make an appearance. I have not seen a Bioware Developer dispute this yet.

[captain.subtle]

That age will be named the Boom Age them.. not DRAGON age.

[Iscaredeath]

I'm sure the creators will think of a better name than Boom age. At least I hope so.

[captain.subtle]

Dhoom Age? Wham! Age?



I guess Gunpowder Age. I was just trying to point out that Dragon Age timeline will not have it.

[Iscaredeath]

Thats true, but my guess is that they will wait since gunpowder is one hell of a difference maker on the battle field. The concept they have now for battle would be obsolete if they introduce gunpowder. Look how it changed our history. Gunpowder allowed for mass conquest of lands that didn't have the technology.

[thegreateski]

Iscaredeath wrote...

Thats true, but my guess is that they will wait since gunpowder is one hell of a difference maker on the battle field. The concept they have now for battle would be obsolete if they introduce gunpowder. Look how it changed our history. Gunpowder allowed for mass conquest of lands that didn't have the technology.

Yeah but those lands without tech in Dragon age have mages instead . . .

[captain.subtle]

True. But then we did not have mages.

Qunari LOST their war after winning a few battles. Reason? Magic. Fireballs require no metal, no gunpowder. Only men.

Edit: Ninja Gaidered.

Modifié par captain.subtle, 08 août 2010 - 10:37 .

[Giant ambush beetle]

then firearms will have to appear at some point given that gunpowder exists.  It would be a breach of logic for this to not occur.

Well, Qunari have gunpowder and cannons, they don't have any small arms. Sounds illogical?
My explanation; in 15th century guns weren't that useful, they were rather complex, prone to produce misfires in humid weather conditions, extremely slow to reload, production of gunpowder and high quality steel barrels is very complex , expensive and time consuming, firearms back then required lots of maintenance...and all this for a medium range ranged weapon with a low rate of fire.
A Crossbow and a bow might be less powerful but much more effective and flexible in battle conditions, AND they are more accurate than a smooth-bore matchlock musket. In the end crossbows and bows are low tech but more effective (at this stage of gun development), easy and cheap to manufacture, effective on the battlefield....
Maybe Qunari think guns have too many drawbacks and stick to low-tech weapons for the battlefield, they just use them only on their really big battleships against enemy fortifications and other battleships.

Qunari LOST their war after winning a few battles. Reason? Magic. Fireballs require no metal, no gunpowder. Only men.

Intelligent men. Very hard to come by in Thedas.

Modifié par The Woldan , 08 août 2010 - 10:38 .

[captain.subtle]

Answer: Hand cannons = Fire arms, have a chance to appear.

The Woldan wrote....

Intelligent men. Very hard to come by in Thedas. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png

Well, they won the war, so I guess they were sufficient in numbers .

Modifié par captain.subtle, 08 août 2010 - 10:50 .