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[Maverick827]

The Woldan wrote...

Well, Qunari have gunpowder and cannons, they don't have any small arms. Sounds illogical?

No, since cannons existed a few centuries before hand-held rifles?

My explanation; in 15th century guns weren't that useful, they were rather complex, prone to produce misfires in humid weather conditions, extremely slow to reload, production of gunpowder and high quality steel barrels is very complex , expensive and time consuming, firearms back then required lots of maintenance...and all this for a medium range ranged weapon with a low rate of fire.
A Crossbow and a bow might be less powerful but much more effective and flexible in battle conditions, AND they are more accurate than a smooth-bore matchlock musket. In the end crossbows and bows are low tech but more effective (at this stage of gun development), easy and cheap to manufacture, effective on the battlefield....
Maybe Qunari think guns have too many drawbacks and stick to low-tech weapons for the battlefield, they just use them only on their really big battleships against enemy fortifications and other battleships.

That makes sense.  Good thing that I never said anything to the contrary, right?  Regardless of current gunpowder technology, it will advance, barring some sort of Thedas dark ages.

Simply having technological advancement stall because it wouldn't seem "fantasy enough" would be terrible storytelling.  Now, we may never see a game set in the proper time period where firearms have been developed, but to deny that they would ever exist in a theoretical sense is foolish.

[Giant ambush beetle]

Maverick827 wrote...
 Regardless of current gunpowder technology, it will advance, barring some sort of Thedas dark ages

It could also be a dead end, technologically advanced does not mean that the infra structure is sufficient enough to support this new technology because its just too advanced and expensive to make, especially if there are low-cost almost as effective alternatives. A lot of very advanced technology has been dropped because of the cost-benefit ratio and /or missing infra structure. 
I can imagine that the whole small arms thing isn't worth the effort for Qunari so they scratch the whole project because they have to focus on other more important things. 

Maverick827 wrote...
No, since cannons existed a few centuries before hand-held rifles?

Not true, handguns and cannons co-existed since the discovery of black powder, in fact, the very first handguns were hand-held cannon-like  ''buckets'' filled with powder and arrows.

Modifié par The Woldan , 09 août 2010 - 12:05 .

[wowpwnslol]

Anti Material sniper rifle from ME2 as DLC - one shotting bosses without even seeing them for just $4.99!

[iTomes]

i can only say one thing about rifles and pistols in DA2, and i already said it before:

you ruined the total war series! stay out of my dragon age, abomination of technology!

thank you.

[Bfler]

Rifles in a medival fantasy scenario? Sounds to me as if somebody has played too much World of Warcraft.

Modifié par Bfler, 09 août 2010 - 12:42 .

[wowpwnslol]

This could easily be incorporated into lore: thousands of years ago an alien spaceship crashed on the planet where the events of DA are taking place. Our hero stumbles upon the wreckage of their spaceship and acquires several shiny weapons - such as long range sniper rifle, which shoots armor piercing rounds, a machine gun and last but not least, power armor. Using these items the hero defeats the final boss (by sniping him from several miles away) and the world is saved.

[The Grey Ranger]

DetailedSubset wrote...

Not rifles, muskets. Rifleing is an important difference in a firearm and not developed until late in the 17th centuary.

Actually, the earliest rifles were late 15th or early 16th century.  They just have a lot of issues with prolonged use.

[BallaZs]

I really hope that there won't be rifles.

[drake heath]

Well the thing about rifles and fire arms is.. if you have magic, why do you need a gun?

[burrito]

Hand Cannons maybe? They weren't effective in strat up combat but effective in ambushes

[Rapidiul]

Risax wrote...

This isn't Fable...
Also most of the story is in the same time period as Origins and Awakening, and I doubt the Qunari give up the advantage they have on the humans.

I didn't know each and every game with guns were ripping off Fable 2.

Modifié par Rapidiul, 09 août 2010 - 07:44 .

[tmp7704]

Osena109 wrote...

ok we know there is gunpowder in Awakening so is it possible there could be flintlock pistols and Rifles in DA universe?

It was stated by David Gaider even qunari technology is very primitive in this area -- they have no small arms, and their cannons are also very basic. It probably doesn't extend beyond english cannons/bombards or weapons of similar level.

[Faz432]

I hope not, it would just be pointless.

Early firearms were ineffective, bow and arrows still outperformed them in rate of fire and accuracy, more importantly as some have alluded to, it's uncertain whether people would have put the effort and time into developing them in a reality where magic existed.

Modifié par Faz432, 09 août 2010 - 09:27 .

[SirOccam]

drake heath wrote...

Well the thing about rifles and fire arms is.. if you have magic, why do you need a gun?

Because not everyone has magic. Only mages do.

I thought guns were fine in Fable 2, but I personally hope we don't see them in Dragon Age.

[Faz432]

SirOccam wrote...

drake heath wrote...

Well the thing about rifles and fire arms is.. if you have magic, why do you need a gun?

Because not everyone has magic. Only mages do.

I thought guns were fine in Fable 2, but I personally hope we don't see them in Dragon Age.

While it's true to say 'not everyone can conjure magic', it's false to say 'only mages have magic'. Everyone in DA has access to magic, mainly in magically enchanced arms & armor.

Firearms were developed to improve on the bow and arrow system but in a reality where you can fire at a rate of 5 arrows in 5 seconds and be deadly accurate up to a range of 30 meters (or even greater) with magically enhanced arrows and bows to fire them, then the development of sophisticated firearms becomes redundant.

Modifié par Faz432, 09 août 2010 - 09:54 .