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[Dave of Canada]

Anarya wrote...

pizoxuat wrote...

That's ok, I compare men to Isaiah Mustafa. Oh sweet, beautiful, unattainable Old Spice guy...

That guy must get so much booty.

I think when a guy can conjure diamonds from thin air, anybody would sleep with them.

Modifié par Dave of Canada, 11 août 2010 - 07:34 .

[th8827]

I hope that the character creator could tweak more than just the face. And I don't mean just adding a slider that changes female's breast size and male's level of muscle. I'd like to customize everything, including height, weight, muscle level in various parts of the body, various key measurements, etc.

[Apollo Starflare]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Anarya wrote...

pizoxuat wrote...

That's ok, I compare men to Isaiah Mustafa. Oh sweet, beautiful, unattainable Old Spice guy...

That guy must get so much booty.

I think when a guy can conjure diamonds from thin air, anybody would sleep with them.

Silver fish hand catch!

/rides jet ski lion into the sunset.

[kayrob]

Dave of Canada wrote...

kayrob wrote...


CGI. Don't worry fellas, we don't expect you to look like that, it's not realistic.

Most men always compare women to magazine covers and such, though. It's not realistic either.

Being a woman, don't I know it!

Anyway, I thought that bit of conversation that started with the photo of Leonidas was pretty entertaining so I thought I'd roll with it. I'm sorry if the irony of pointing to a pic of a real person (Fernando Torres), who looks pretty close (in musculature) to the CGI'd version of Gerrard Butler and the "all you have to do:" bit was lost in the translation from my brain to the forum...

AwesomeName wrote...

kayrob wrote...

This (and this),
however, IS attainable. All you have to do is: quit your day job, excel
at your favourite sport, and then work out 6-8 hours a day.

Pfft, that's a terrible attitude to take!  Why do so many people think it's so impractical to get into shape?? 

ok, AwesomeName, you seem very passionate about this topic, so I'll bite. First, see the comment above. Second, I play anywhere between 2-4 sports a week including: soccer, ball/ice hockey, volleyball, and dodgeball, depending on the season, and I even ride my bike to my summer soccer league when I can. I also do yoga and eat as healthy as possible. I believe, of myself, that looking like Allison Stokke is unattainable and I do not consider myself unfit!

But if we could all look like Allison Stokke and Fernando Torres, they would not be elite. It is their combination of athletic talent and extreme physical fitness that make them special.

Back to DA2, I believe that most, if not all, the men and women on this thread, including myself, agree that giving the PC female a more athletic body type modelled after someone like Allison Stokke would be great. We want to see a fitter, more powerful female character.

/no anger or offense intended:)

Modifié par kayrob, 11 août 2010 - 08:30 .

[Patriciachr34]

Awesomeness...Sometimes being fit is not possible.  Health issues have a huge impact on whether you can or cannot get fit.  So does time contstraints and life in general.  When you finally do overcome these obstacles, then it does take time to get to back to a fit body.  Life isn't that easy for everyone and some day you may be in their shoes.  So it might be better to show a little sympathy when discussing this delicate topic.

Kayrob...Here! Here!  We want athletic women archetypes Bioware!

[Mecha Tengu]

I demand moar cleavage

[Patriciachr34]

AwesomeName wrote...

Patricia, I know it's not always possible - I don't think I ever said it was! I think for most it is - then again when I say "most", I mean most who aren't elderly, so sorry for not being clear about that. Sorry you're offended. Since it's off-topic, I'll just keep it to pm's.

Actually it's really hard to offend me. I stopped caring what people thought of me years ago as a matter of self preservation.  I was more concerned about the posters here that are still sensitive to this kind of thing.  Thank you for your apology anyway.

[KLUME777]

Ive seen people complaining about how the Human Female doesnt look like it fits the warrior catagory. But it fits the rogue/mage cattagory just fine.

Howabout, in DA2, each different class has a different body build. MAges would be smallest, rogues would be tall/runner build, and Warriors Stock/muscle build.

Bioware, please implement this if your listening

[Riona45]

KLUME777 wrote...

Ive seen people complaining about how the Human Female doesnt look like it fits the warrior catagory. But it fits the rogue/mage cattagory just fine.

Would it be fair to point out-as a general comment not directed at anyone--that the human female depicted in the concept may not be an adventurer?  At least, this is how I've interpreted it.  Same goes for the other people depicted--they may just be ordinary examples of their race.

Howabout, in DA2, each different class has a different body build. MAges would be smallest, rogues would be tall/runner build, and Warriors Stock/muscle build.

No--please, no.  I can get warriors being muscular.  But mages shouldn't always be petite, and rogues shouldn't always be tall.

Modifié par Riona45, 12 août 2010 - 06:54 .

[KLUME777]

Riona45 wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

Ive seen people complaining about how the Human Female doesnt look like it fits the warrior catagory. But it fits the rogue/mage cattagory just fine.

Would it be fair to point out-as a general comment not directed at anyone--that the human female depicted in the concept may not be an adventurer?  At least, this is how I've interpreted it.  Same goes for the other people depicted--they may just be ordinary people.

Howabout, in DA2, each different class has a different body build. MAges would be smallest, rogues would be tall/runner build, and Warriors Stock/muscle build.

No--please, no.  I can get warriors being muscular.  But mages shouldn't always be petite, and rogues shouldn't always be tall.

But it makes sense. Why would mages look like thier on steroids, they dont get near enough, or any, physical exercise than warriors.

Rogues Should have strong, powerful arms for bows, and should be tall and show finesse because thier stealthy.

And warriors are obvious.

[KLUME777]

filaminstrel wrote...

Uh, no, I don't really like that idea either. Who says mages can't stay in shape? Who says rogues train in archery? And I don't really see where height has anything to do with being a rogue. I suppose what you're getting at is-- they should be lean, lithe, not musclebound? That doesn't necessitate being tall though.

I think ideally (and this is just a pipe dream, but it would be best IMO), physical appearance would be based on the three physical characteristics. Strength would add bulk, dexterity would make you more "defined", and constitution would... make you look... more... resilient? Okay, I've got nothing, there.

Fine then, Rogues dont have to be tall, thats a stereotype, but finesse and not bulk, definitely

When did i say mages arent fit? They should be fit, but not massive.

And your genetic body shape DOES matter for what class you are. You have to be strong and able to be a warrior, so you require muscle and bulk, raw strenth.

Rogues require a more athletic and finesse build, and being tall, or at least slim is more is more along those lines.

[Riona45]

KLUME777 wrote...
But it makes sense. Why would mages look like thier on steroids, they dont get near enough, or any, physical exercise than warriors.

Rogues Should have strong, powerful arms for bows, and should be tall and show finesse because thier stealthy.

Um, you said smallness for mages, which implies a petite frame.  That is mostly a matter of genetics, not staying in shape.  Same goes for being tall--again, genetics.  You can only grow a certain height--all the training or lack thereof won't change that.

No one is arguing that mages should look like they are on steriods (warriors shouldn't either, really...), but I agree with those who say it's not impossible for them to stay in shape.  We don't know what Hawke was doing before becoming the protagonist of DA2, but if it was some sort of physical labor, then they probably are in shape.

[Riona45]

KLUME777 wrote...


Rogues require a more athletic and finesse build, and being tall, or at least slim is more is more along those lines.

What's with the insistence on rogues being tall?  I've read about many rogues and thieves in my time, and many of them were short/small, actually*.  You can argue that being short and/or small would help you hide better.  And yes, not all rogues are archers.




*Surely some people here remember halflings?

Modifié par Riona45, 12 août 2010 - 07:20 .

[KLUME777]

Riona45 wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...
But it makes sense. Why would mages look like thier on steroids, they dont get near enough, or any, physical exercise than warriors.

Rogues Should have strong, powerful arms for bows, and should be tall and show finesse because thier stealthy.

Um, you said smallness for mages, which implies a petite frame.  That is mostly a matter of genetics, not staying in shape.  Same goes for being tall--again, genetics.  You can only grow a certain height--all the training or lack thereof won't change that.

No one is arguing that mages should look like they are on steriods (warriors shouldn't either, really...), but I agree with those who say it's not impossible for them to stay in shape.  We don't know what Hawke was doing before becoming the protagonist of DA2, but if it was some sort of physical labor, then they probably are in shape.

I didnt say smallness, i said smallest of the three, theres a difference.

And genetics do play a part in class. You have to fit a certain physical Factors to be a warrior or a rogue, or at least, there are the best possible Physical factors, so if you are a master rogue or warrior, it would be most likely that you were the perfect ideal of what a rogue or warrior may look like.

Granted, Mages can be either, really, but they certainly dont use thier bodys as much as the other too (Arcane warriors use magic, not physical strenth), so it makes sense that there less fit or imposing

[Riona45]

KLUME777 wrote...

And genetics do play a part in class. You have to fit a certain physical Factors to be a warrior or a rogue, or at least, there are the best possible Physical factors, so if you are a master rogue or warrior, it would be most likely that you were the perfect ideal of what a rogue or warrior may look like.

I pointed out that you don't need tallness to be a rogue, though, which is what you kept harping on.

[KLUME777]

Riona45 wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

And genetics do play a part in class. You have to fit a certain physical Factors to be a warrior or a rogue, or at least, there are the best possible Physical factors, so if you are a master rogue or warrior, it would be most likely that you were the perfect ideal of what a rogue or warrior may look like.

I pointed out that you don't need tallness to be a rogue, though, which is what you kept harping on.

And as i said, being tall is a plus Genetic trait for rogues. If your a master rogue, you should have ideal rogue traits.

[Dave of Canada]

KLUME777 wrote...

And as i said, being tall is a plus Genetic trait for rogues. If your a master rogue, you should have ideal rogue traits.

What is an "ideal rogue trait"? Is it not practice that makes somebody a master of their trade, rather than how they were born?

[KLUME777]

Dave of Canada wrote...

KLUME777 wrote...

And as i said, being tall is a plus Genetic trait for rogues. If your a master rogue, you should have ideal rogue traits.

What is an "ideal rogue trait"? Is it not practice that makes somebody a master of their trade, rather than how they were born?

Your natural physical traits that your born with matter if you are to be an absolute master.

For example, anyone can swim, but only those that are born with a body ideal for smimming can ever be good enogh to go to the olympics.

How is your character supposed to defeat the Archdemon-equivelent if he/she is not an absolute master at being a rogue/warrior/mage.

[SirOccam]

I don't understand why being tall is a good thing for rogues. I mean, I like playing tall characters, and if DAO had a height slider I'd crank it up as high as it could go for my rogue, but it seems to me that being short and compact would lend itself better to being sneaky. Less volume to conceal.

[KLUME777]

People start arguments over everything...



I also said tall because it seems more rogue-ish as well. So as to differentiate physically from other classes.



I mean, wouldn't you rather three different bodies for DA2 for each class, rather than one universal body? Which people said doesn't fit the warrior class because its too thin and not enough muscle. It fits well for rogue and mage.



What i said before were suggestions for what would look good and fit well with the different classes.

[dreman9999]

Hayllee wrote...

I don't really pay attention to concept art ever since someone showed me this.



This is Zevran.

But I like the human female. I really like the elf's hair. I hope they don't do unique hairstyles like with mass effect and Morrigan.

That looks like a Final Fantasy 4 character.......Edge.