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[Bobad]

Given the concept art for the look of female Qunari, are we likely to see a female Qunari fighter?, I use the word fighter rather than warrior as Sten stated there were no female Qunari warriors, perhaps this is a question of semantics in Qunari society and by warrior Sten means a sword wielding tank type, rather than an absence of any melee capable ladies?.

The Female Qunari in the concept art certainly looks capable of causing damage compared to the other races.

[Saibh]

I'm pretty sure that the qunari are strict with their roles in society. "Women don't fight" Sten said--there are no qunari female fighters. There are probably Tal-Vashoth female warriors, but they're not qunari. I think that's a bit of an oxymoron.

[wwwwowwww]

That makes no sense women are cooks and teachers

[Bobad]

Saibh wrote...

I'm pretty sure that the qunari are strict with their roles in society. "Women don't fight" Sten said--there are no qunari female fighters. There are probably Tal-Vashoth female warriors, but they're not qunari. I think that's a bit of an oxymoron.

Well again it would depend on the Qunari definition of fight, Sten has said that he has difficulty with some Ferelden words and given the strict codes of the Qun, the definition of fight for them may have a much narrower meaning.

[Saibh]

Bobad wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I'm pretty sure that the qunari are strict with their roles in society. "Women don't fight" Sten said--there are no qunari female fighters. There are probably Tal-Vashoth female warriors, but they're not qunari. I think that's a bit of an oxymoron.

Well again it would depend on the Qunari definition of fight, Sten has said that he has difficulty with some Ferelden words and given the strict codes of the Qun, the definition of fight for them may have a much narrower meaning.

It seems like a waste of qunari resources, and qunari are anything but wasteful. Why waste time and skills teaching women to fight, even to defend themselves, when they have other people for the job? 

[Bobad]

Saibh wrote...

Bobad wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I'm pretty sure that the qunari are strict with their roles in society. "Women don't fight" Sten said--there are no qunari female fighters. There are probably Tal-Vashoth female warriors, but they're not qunari. I think that's a bit of an oxymoron.

Well again it would depend on the Qunari definition of fight, Sten has said that he has difficulty with some Ferelden words and given the strict codes of the Qun, the definition of fight for them may have a much narrower meaning.

It seems like a waste of qunari resources, and qunari are anything but wasteful. Why waste time and skills teaching women to fight, even to defend themselves, when they have other people for the job? 

It could stem from times when Qunari males were otherwise engaged, someone would need to defend the families and settlements, such people could be defined as not fighting, merely defending/protecting. 

[Saibh]

Bobad wrote...

Saibh wrote...

Bobad wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I'm pretty sure that the qunari are strict with their roles in society. "Women don't fight" Sten said--there are no qunari female fighters. There are probably Tal-Vashoth female warriors, but they're not qunari. I think that's a bit of an oxymoron.

Well again it would depend on the Qunari definition of fight, Sten has said that he has difficulty with some Ferelden words and given the strict codes of the Qun, the definition of fight for them may have a much narrower meaning.

It seems like a waste of qunari resources, and qunari are anything but wasteful. Why waste time and skills teaching women to fight, even to defend themselves, when they have other people for the job? 

It could stem from times when Qunari males were otherwise engaged, someone would need to defend the families and settlements, such people could be defined as not fighting, merely defending/protecting. 

Has there ever been an invasion of Par Vollen? I mean, you think they wouldn't send every soldier they had to conquer, and would leave some at home. I mean, that's what just about every European society did.

[B3taMaxxx]

Bobad wrote...

Saibh wrote...

I'm pretty sure that the qunari are strict with their roles in society. "Women don't fight" Sten said--there are no qunari female fighters. There are probably Tal-Vashoth female warriors, but they're not qunari. I think that's a bit of an oxymoron.

Well again it would depend on the Qunari definition of fight, Sten has said that he has difficulty with some Ferelden words and given the strict codes of the Qun, the definition of fight for them may have a much narrower meaning.

 Considering you were in many "fight"s with Sten, I have to believe the definition of the word is clear.

 I don't see it to hard to believe the females role in Qunari society are limited by their sex, given a breif look at our own worlds history with women and such. Seems pretty clear, though I would like to see a rogue Qunari female in my party and hear her take on Qun society.

[Herr Uhl]

Saibh wrote...

Bobad wrote...

It could stem from times when Qunari males were otherwise engaged, someone would need to defend the families and settlements, such people could be defined as not fighting, merely defending/protecting. 

Has there ever been an invasion of Par Vollen? I mean, you think they wouldn't send every soldier they had to conquer, and would leave some at home. I mean, that's what just about every European society did.

Women don't fight. Almost all jobs are determined according to sex. Par Vollen has yet to be invaded too.

[DaringMoosejaw]

Haha, the Qunari in that picture didn't look like she spent her day shopping and washing clothes in a river.

[B3taMaxxx]

DaringMoosejaw wrote...

Haha, the Qunari in that picture didn't look like she spent her day shopping and washing clothes in a river.

 Perhaps they're very cleanly?

[CrookedAsylum]

A Tal-Vashoth Qunari woman would be pretty interesting, particularly if she embodies the rest of the Qun save for her career choice. It would make for a unique perspective on the relatively strict philosophy, I think.



As a side note, I'm sorry for sidetracking the thread, but what's up with the human female's leg? It looks like a dancing noodle.

[Chairon de Celeste]

The dancing noodles will most likely not be found in the final game
- early concept art, nothing more.

the strict rules and laws of the q'nari society give a headstrong female
plenty of reasons to become a disgraced, sword wielding outcast
- it wouldn't suprise me if the party came across at least one of them

Modifié par Chairon de Celeste, 09 août 2010 - 12:54 .

[Bobad]

Chairon de Celeste wrote...

The dancing noodles will most likely not be found in the final game
- early concept art, nothing more.

the strict rules and laws of the q'nari society give a headstrong female
plenty of reasons to become a disgraced, sword wielding outcast
- it wouldn't suprise me if the party came across at least one of them

A Qunari Suffragette perhaps?, or a member of a Penal Battalion perhaps?, I like it and would make for good critical insight into Qun society.

Modifié par Bobad, 09 août 2010 - 01:39 .

[Mox Ruuga]

I'm hoping we don't get to see the Qun retconned, just to give space to Qunari female fighters or Qunari wizards or whatever people think sounds "cool". Bioware should stick to what they've established for the lore in the first game.

I think Sten said that Qunari women, elderly, and children WILL fight, if need be (rather than cover in a Chantry like the Redcliffe civvies), but won't seek out battle by themselves.

[CrookedAsylum]

I agree, Mox. I would be severely disappointed if the Qun was retconned to allow female warriors. Tal-Vashoth, however, is an entirely different story, even if the female warrior was only Tal-Vashoth by technicality. So long as such a thing was treated appropriately in-game, I'm fine with it.

[Kohaku]

I don't know much about the Qunari, it's not a race I looked up lore for in the original game, but I think it would be a disservice to just totally throw out lore unless there was some reason to do so. It might be nice to see a Qunari Female warrior, the concept for the women look very cool, but I wouldn't want them sacrificing story/lore to do so.



I have a terrible itch about one game in particular going totally against lore and then the damn developers say, "Oh. We forgot about that. Just forget that established lore and follow this!" ~Grumbles~

[CrookedAsylum]

Dues ex machina is a painful, painful thing. Maybe everto would apply better. But I don't think Bioware will go against lore just to implement a female Qunari warrior.

[Ken555]

true, but Female Qunaris should have basic combat knowledge in addition to normal feminine roles.

[Bobad]

Unless the Qunari shown in the concept art isn't female at all....

[CrookedAsylum]

True, you would think that they possess some rudimentary knowledge about self-defense. Mr. Gaider - or maybe it was Mary - said that women would fight if they had to, but would strongly dislike it. Maybe that means all Qunari are taught how to fight, if only for the discipline and practical reasons of it.



...

Oh dear. I bet the women grow epic beards, too.

[Aigyl]

Kerridan Kaiba wrote...
I have a terrible itch about one game in particular going totally against lore and then the damn developers say, "Oh. We forgot about that. Just forget that established lore and follow this!" ~Grumbles~

That would be the Draenei from WoW? Burning Crusade was truly a work of art for Blizzard's lore team


I'll be surprised if Bioware retcon Qunari females though, they already have the Tal'Vashoth to fill in for anything the Qun doesn't cover.

[Kohaku]

Just thinking about it angers me. I really am a story person and I digested the lore from the Warcraft series. A lot of things in World of Warcraft are totally suspect in the lore department.

Modifié par Kerridan Kaiba, 09 août 2010 - 03:03 .

[Van Der Muchbetter Cosanostra]

I am absolutely sure that Bio's writers won't allow such disgrace to established lore, like Qun-ari (as a people with same way of life, not a race) female warrior. On other hand, Tal-Vashoth culture, social organisation and philosophy are not known for us. Therefore, DG and guys have a perfect opportunity to justify a female warrior from race we keep calling qunari.

[CrookedAsylum]

As I said before, I wouldn't be upset if the devs took the Tal-Vashoth route, so long as there are the appropriate in-game consequences for such a character. If done well, it would be awesome. Besides, I feel like a Tal-Vashoth would be more forth-coming about the Qun than Sten was.